Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:13 pm

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Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:13 pm linkquote
As mentioned in the Deal of the Day Thread... Poi Dog turned me on to a straight P200 frame for CHEAP. What was particularly appealing (aside from the price) was that Poi Dog had scored a cheap p200 motor in a parts buy during the early days of the pandemic and I had nabbed that off him for future use. So, this is what you would call a "PB&J resto".

The P200 has some surface rust and some floor rust, but nothing serious.
With the SS180 project at the media blasters waiting on the rains to stop, I decided to clean up some of the frame on this ghostly white P. Started with a good soap and water clean and then tried a clay bar. It worked, but... it was pretty tedious. Decided to kick things up a notch, and based on a some basic chemistry, decided to give apple cider vinegar a go.

The result.... pretty positive. The mild acidity of the vinegar does take some paint off along with the rust, but as long as you rinse with water and dry it's pretty harmless. You will smell like a Greek salad for the rest of the day... other than that though it worked a charm.

After everything was cleaned up we took the Ghost P200 to storage. It's hanging with the VBC and after the SS project it will be a tough call as to which one gets built out first. We'll see. All and all a productive Saturday in the garage.


Started here...


and here


Halfway home


boom


ended here


SQRL dog helped. Lu-dog was off chewing on a Nylabone all day. #Union


All tucked in at storage waiting their turn.



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Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:12 pm

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Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:12 pm linkquote
Looking forward to seeing this project come to fruition...
Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:18 am

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:18 am linkquote
top marks!

did you disguise the clay bar work by telling the missus she could get her work out on it? cuz that would be, like, epic status. yeah... yeah... just like, keep hitting that. I'm over here putting together a motor *cough* *cough*

but man, that looks aces! great job!
Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:23 am

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:23 am linkquote
Wow, that ghost is cleaning up nice! I'm looking forward to seeing it go together
Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:52 am

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:52 am linkquote
As much as I wanna see that P running, I wanna see the Soop on the road even more.
Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:32 am

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:32 am linkquote
Man, that looks good. I wish you could find frames like that over here. Anything that old over here is usually rotten as a squishy peach. UK scooters with original paint are few and far between.

Happy 4th July too you all by the way.
Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:22 pm

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:22 pm linkquote
Thanks y’all!
SoCalGuy wrote:
As much as I wanna see that P running, I wanna see the Soop on the road even more.
Indeed. The supah will be a bit more of a lift with a 12v EI conversion planned and a full engine rebuild. But yeah, getting another 60/8” on the road is always a good thing.

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:41 pm

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:41 pm linkquote
Neil Edgar wrote:
Man, that looks good. I wish you could find frames like that over here. Anything that old over here is usually rotten as a squishy peach. UK scooters with original paint are few and far between.

Happy 4th July too you all by the way.
Cheers!

Yes... We are certainly lucky to have some nice OG scoots around that are in ok shape. But, you guys have us beat by miles on Lammys and the more desirable Vespa models.
Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:59 pm

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:59 pm linkquote
If you're looking for a touch up paint pen, BMW Alpinweiss II is super close to the P200 white.
Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:14 pm

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:14 pm linkquote
Awesome 411. Gracias

Cowls were rattle canned a close match but will need a respray as will the fender and head set upper. So, will try and sort the glasurite color. Will use the BMW white as a back up for sure!

If anyone knows that piaggio paint code holler!
Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:45 pm

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Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:45 pm linkquote
I had this bike and same. Someone just used white spray paint.

I tried a few paint pens from the auto parts store, and the BMW one was the closest.

The original code is much better.



Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:55 am

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Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:55 am linkquote
Is that Bianco Spino and is there actually a BMW match ??? Nice.
Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:40 pm

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Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:40 pm linkquote
I had Glasurit mix up some Biancospino 715 to paint the cowls on my SS180. Here's a picture of the single stage can with the code. I haven't painted the cowls yet, but it looks like a spot on match. I dabbed some on the tank to compare. Biggest issue is that it will be too shiny/fresh looking...







Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:51 pm

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Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:51 pm linkquote
pretty good , thanks
Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:34 pm

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Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:34 pm linkquote
Langolson: Where are you getting your Glasurit?
Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:48 pm

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Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:48 pm linkquote
Langolson wrote:
I dabbed some on the tank to compare. Biggest issue is that it will be too shiny/fresh looking...
Cut the gloss with talcum powder.
Note it has to be talc and not some other BS.

I used talc to cut the gloss on my VNB cowl respray and it worked a charm.
Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:51 pm

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Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:51 pm linkquote
Page 3 towards the bottom...

A Minnesota Shit Box in Texas (63 VNB resto). (Page 3)
Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:59 pm

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Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:59 pm linkquote
Quote:
Cut the gloss with talcum powder.
Thanks for the suggestion and the link. I'll try that.
Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:03 pm

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Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:03 pm linkquote
Quote:
Where are you getting your Glasurit?
I got it from Automotive Refinish Technologies in Lino Lakes MN. I found them off the BASF website link to local suppliers. The paint is $$$!
Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:10 pm

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Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:10 pm linkquote
Thx Langolson! I’m going to call and see if they’ll ship to CA.
Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:25 am

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Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:25 am linkquote
Quote:
Thx Langolson! I’m going to call and see if they’ll ship to CA.
SoCal, if they won’t ship, lmk and I can help with that. I pm’d you the contact info for the guy I worked with.
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:29 am

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Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:29 am linkquote
Appreciate that very much. I’ve never personally used Glasurit 22 but I’ve seen it and know it’s top shelf stuff.
Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:30 am

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Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:30 am linkquote
You are still not allowed to paint the P 🤣
Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:40 pm

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Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:40 pm linkquote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Langolson: Where are you getting your Glasurit?
Prob could Google "Glasurit Automotive Paint store near me" and call the stores to see if they mix the paint in house by using that paint code.
Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:47 pm

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Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:47 pm linkquote
Tried that and Google said “Not many results contain near”. Many companies don’t sell in CA due to various regulations.
Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:57 pm

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Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:57 pm linkquote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Tried that and Google said “Not many results contain near”. Many companies don’t sell in CA due to various regulations.
The BASF website has a list of dealers.
https://refinish.basf.us/where-to-buy/

The first one I ramdomly looked at had a Glasurit sign on their exterior (in North Hollywood). But I suspect they might not be able to find MaxMeyer formulas.
https://a-f-auto-paint-supply-inc.business.site/



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Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:45 pm linkquote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Tried that and Google said “Not many results contain near”. Many companies don’t sell in CA due to various regulations.
OIC. I'll tell you what I can do for you and only you. I'll send whatever paint you want from my local Glasurit supplier and you send me some California sunshine medicine from your local supplier. Many companies don't sell in TX due to various regulations.
Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:28 pm

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Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:28 pm linkquote
Deal. Where do you want to meet?
Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:53 am

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Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:53 am linkquote
Obligatory gas tank hootenanny...


In mod we crust.


Current Affairs


Flash Dance


Put me in coach... I'm ready.



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Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:57 am

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Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:57 am linkquote
Nice - charge the battery AND electrolysis the tank - at the same time!
Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:44 am

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Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:44 am linkquote
Huge thanks to Kyle for a rear hub and more thanks to Jesse for the front hub. Jesse even threw in a roller bearing. MV has some great folks making things easier.



Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:46 am

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Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:46 am linkquote
Also... big shout out to Tom from Hooligans SC for hooking me up with a switch!
Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:27 pm

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Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:27 pm linkquote
Just tuning in to discover electrolysis is taking over the forum like wild fire.

Looking good!
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:13 am

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Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:13 am linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
Huge thanks to Kyle for a rear hub and more thanks to Jesse for the front hub. Jesse even threw in a roller bearing. MV has some great folks making things easier.
You're very welcome. I'm happy when I can
Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:14 am

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Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:14 am linkquote
charlieman22 wrote:
Just tuning in to discover electrolysis is taking over the forum like wild fire.

Looking good!
It really is spreading like wild fire!
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:54 am

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Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:54 am linkquote
GeekLion wrote:
It really is spreading like wild fire!
It's one of those things that, once you've done it and got the set-up down, you're like, "Why did I not start doing this years ago?"

Project is looking great!
Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:45 am

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Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:45 am linkquote
So birdsnest did you coat that tank then? Looks like it…
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:54 am linkquote
Naw. Just a splash of WD40. Will get rinsed with some gas before running.
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Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:05 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
It's one of those things that, once you've done it and got the set-up down, you're like, "Why did I not start doing this years ago?"

Project is looking great!
Its true. I've done electroloysis loooooong ago on a super rusty '60 Allstate; and some VW parts too. Worked like a charm! I may have to break out the ol battery charger again to keep up with the crowd
Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:12 am

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Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:12 am linkquote
Crustoration continues…

I still have to blend the edges quite a bit and lift some paint… but considering where we started I'm pretty happy.

A 10 from 10
Fine at 5
Good at 2.


Crunchy


Smoothing out

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