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It's time for me to begin work on another new project, 2nd runner, back up scoot as they say. Midnight seemed like a good time to start, so lets see what we can do to get this pile back on the tarmac.

Here we have a 1979 P200E, all stock, mostly original; a victim of the terrible Piaggio 70's silver, with a few custom paint touches from years gone by.

Kinda a back burner project, kinda an easy quick turn around; as long as I don't get too OCD... or so a friend once warned me. The OCD trap is no joke.

The plan is to keep it stock, mechanical rebuild for all functional parts, cables, electric, brakes, etc. No paint work at all, his one stays as crappy looking as possible. Motor gets a full rebuild, and probably an O-Tune. First I we break it down, then we rebuild. Let's begin -
So it Begins
So it Begins
Dont Be Frontin
Dont Be Frontin
Sterling Silver, where it was protected from the elements
Sterling Silver, where it was protected from the elements
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Lets Pull this Lump. Gonna break it down bit by bit, as I pull it. I missed a few steps, but the fun stuff is here for your enjoyment, or annoyance; choose your own adventure
Nice Clean Rear
Nice Clean Rear
Lumpy ready to worky
Lumpy ready to worky
greasy
greasy
broken shifter adjuster. gonna have to dig out the leftover bit from the box
broken shifter adjuster. gonna have to dig out the leftover bit from the box
Crispy wiring, as to be expected. Dreaded Green Wire, and then some
Crispy wiring, as to be expected. Dreaded Green Wire, and then some
Extra hole for performance air flow
Extra hole for performance air flow
The usual layer of grime
The usual layer of grime
Oxidized solder joints. Will be rewired as new
Oxidized solder joints. Will be rewired as new
Fun bits of something behind flywheel
Fun bits of something behind flywheel
A bit of scoring on flywheel from Fun Bits of something
A bit of scoring on flywheel from Fun Bits of something
Cotter pin installed incorrectly, and hub nut barely finger tight. Thankfully axle splines are still in great shape.
Cotter pin installed incorrectly, and hub nut barely finger tight. Thankfully axle splines are still in great shape.
USA head in good condition. Healthy coat of carbon.
USA head in good condition. Healthy coat of carbon.
Where the fun Begins. Best guess is that P.O. installed the Sitoplus exhaust, and did not UPjet; burning this sweet mutha to bits
Where the fun Begins. Best guess is that P.O. installed the Sitoplus exhaust, and did not UPjet; burning this sweet mutha to bits
lets go streaking
lets go streaking
just a bit o tranfser ;/
just a bit o tranfser ;/
I've struck silver!!
I've struck silver!!
Piston Destruction
Piston Destruction
More piston destruction
More piston destruction
And more...
And more...
and even more
and even more
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More teardown progress pic. Just need to get the bearings out, clean up, and asses the specifics. What I know is the crank is toast, piston is shot, cyl atleast needs a clean up and hone, maybe an oversize but need to measure it out first. Otherwise, the rest of motor looks good. Gears, clutch, primary gears all in good shape. More to come, stay tuned!
Rotary Pad in good shape. Looks worse than actually is. Will clean up fine.
Rotary Pad in good shape. Looks worse than actually is. Will clean up fine.
Just about there. Just need to BRING THE HEAT, to get dem bearings out.
Just about there. Just need to BRING THE HEAT, to get dem bearings out.
There ya have it! for now
There ya have it! for now
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What's incorrect about the split pin (cotter pin in your post)? I've seen them folded over the top, but didn't realise that over the top was correct and round the sides is wrong
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What's incorrect about the split pin (cotter pin in your post)? I've seen them folded over the top, but didn't realise that over the top was correct and round the sides is wrong
I was taught to always fold the pin over the top, with the Loop head tucked into the slot. With the leggy's bent around the circumference the pin has potential to loosen and work its way out.
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Could you have possibly started with LESS?

Props to you for saving it. I'd ride it all day long looking like that, though.
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That piston is a keeper for sure
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Could you have possibly started with LESS?

Props to you for saving it. I'd ride it all day long looking like that, though.
Possibly, but not by much I like em rough... real rough. Mechanically speaking, it'll be good as new; cosmetically it will stay in Madmax post apocalyptic rough n ready old patina status
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I was taught to always fold the pin over the top, with the Loop head tucked into the slot. With the leggy's bent around the circumference the pin has potential to loosen and work its way out.
I'm having a hard time picturing this. I installed mine like the pic above but would wanna do it up right, before I start riding it. Which still won't be a bit anyways. Got a few months of PT ahead of me first.


Also love the beat to crap look. Obviously haha.
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Holy smokes GL!

Awesome project, but what caught my eye was the perfectly organized garage - hats off to you for taking it to the 99 percent functional setup. Clap emoticon Clap emoticon

I usually shoot for 80/20, Where 80% of the straightening up takes 20% of the work, but the last 20% takes 80% of the work. I usually end up around 60-40 though Razz emoticon

In other words, my work area / garage is a pigsty compared to yours
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This is awesome, looking forward to it!
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Very cool! Love the organization.
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thanks for taking the time to share your project. I love the look of the scooter and the plan to keep it that way.
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Yeah man, another silver P200 rat project! Are these things multiplying?

Cheers brother!
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Like watching a clock made - or possibly a trian wreck - its impossible to tell - which is what makes it so good!

Kidding of course.
Fun one for sure.
Great pics/ show and tell.
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Great pics I’ll be following this thread and hope to see that baby on the road.
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Sweet! And yeah... that garage is almost too organized to have a rat rebuild!
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Funny how yall pointing out the organized shop. Many many many days and nites moving things around seeing how it all fits, and more so than that; how it feels. I literally can't think straight in (my own) disorganized work space, and not knowing where something is when I need it is well... frustrating Extra funny cuz I still have so much more organizing that I want to do! ROFL emoticon
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This thing is kind of a tranwreck, and kinda of a frankenberry beast; and I dig it alot!
shock: Thats the idea; save this beast and bring it back to life! Been staring at it sitting in the corner of the shop collecting dust for far too long.

Thankfully, I'm a bit of a collector (hoarder) so most of what I need for the motor is already here, and some of the bits for the body and frame. I made a list of parts needed for the build, and went thru my crates to pull parts. I made a good dent, and will gather the rest as the project moves along. No timeline or deadline for this, but the sooner the better of course. Trying to keep this build as low pressure as possible, hence the Rattyness.

Rat(P)ack unite!
Bluecheck means its here waiting for the build phase. Hoarding pays off!
Bluecheck means its here waiting for the build phase. Hoarding pays off!
The pile grows organically. Just a misting of 2-stroke oil each day is all it takes
The pile grows organically. Just a misting of 2-stroke oil each day is all it takes
Made in 79. The year I was born.
Made in 79. The year I was born.
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First we break this beast down
Then we CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN.
I like it rough, but not dirty.
Must be clean!
Lets begin-
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double cover. I wonder what lies beneath
double cover. I wonder what lies beneath
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crunchy
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Breakdown beats. Thankfully no real surprises, all went smooth. Having fun already! I love the breakdown clean up phase!
Lets get tanked
Lets get tanked
nice n clean, a few minor spots to pay attention too
nice n clean, a few minor spots to pay attention too
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not too bad, or too oily; consider the state of the outside. Inside tunnel is rust free
not too bad, or too oily; consider the state of the outside. Inside tunnel is rust free
Mat was crumbling to bits anyway. Now we can treat all those rust spots.
Mat was crumbling to bits anyway. Now we can treat all those rust spots.
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Missing 2 bolts
Missing 2 bolts
Unmolested, other than the battery terminal.
Unmolested, other than the battery terminal.
Nice original plastic terminal ends
Nice original plastic terminal ends
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One bendy hook, one missing washer
One bendy hook, one missing washer
Inner nut broke free. Needs a nut-sert, or...?
Inner nut broke free. Needs a nut-sert, or...?
Most likely the original outers. 2-tone for life!
Most likely the original outers. 2-tone for life!
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Up under rear brake pedal. Nice clean tunnel, and note the cable routing.
Up under rear brake pedal. Nice clean tunnel, and note the cable routing.
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Riv-nut for the seat post or weld a nut in there
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Nice one GL!! My blue P was the same crappy silver when I got it from the PO. Never understood why this was the only color of the line that turned the most crap over the years…
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More break down
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Dreaded Green Wire strikes again! A few terminal patch ups, nothing too crazy
Dreaded Green Wire strikes again! A few terminal patch ups, nothing too crazy
Ignition switch terminal placement, for reference.
Ignition switch terminal placement, for reference.
Usual amount of crud
Usual amount of crud
Those 2-Tone shift cables, for reference
Those 2-Tone shift cables, for reference
Bad reference photo for upper tunnel wires, cables, placement n such. Left to right: horn switch wires ( to junction box), throttle, clutch, shifters
Bad reference photo for upper tunnel wires, cables, placement n such. Left to right: horn switch wires ( to junction box), throttle, clutch, shifters
More Green wire deterioration. Of course this will need attention
More Green wire deterioration. Of course this will need attention
More DGW
More DGW
Kill switch lever busted off
Kill switch lever busted off
PVC sheathing has seen better days
PVC sheathing has seen better days
Mismatched levers. I really like the 80's dog leg, with the square end instead of the usual round end.
Mismatched levers. I really like the 80's dog leg, with the square end instead of the usual round end.
headset neck, RIGHT SIDE wiring placement. Bulk of wiring in FRONT of throttle cable.
headset neck, RIGHT SIDE wiring placement. Bulk of wiring in FRONT of throttle cable.
Lets pull this fork, with the Proper Tool. No screwdrivers and hammers allowed
Lets pull this fork, with the Proper Tool. No screwdrivers and hammers allowed
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Now she be Rollin Deep.  Old school projector card FTW
Now she be Rollin Deep. Old school projector card FTW
Under mudguard remnants of an ancient spider civilization
Under mudguard remnants of an ancient spider civilization
Lets see what lies beneath the attle can paint
Lets see what lies beneath the attle can paint
Much better! A little acetone and a little scrub made it easy.
Much better! A little acetone and a little scrub made it easy.
there ya have it! All the small parts, sorted bagged n tagged.
there ya have it! All the small parts, sorted bagged n tagged.
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Holy Chit! It’s like I’m seeing mine…
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Holy Chit! It’s like I’m seeing mine…
Yours looks nicer than mine, and I'm ok with that
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Yours looks nicer than mine, and I'm ok with that
Nah, it had a terrible spray over and it was the same mess underneath…
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Just a little paint clean up progress. So, I had said I was going to keep the paint as-is; but decided to atleast clean off the garbage resprays on the mudguard, cowls, and other bits. So atleast it can all look ratty in the same color.
2-Tone for life
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starting point
starting point
gettin there
gettin there
cleaned up nice
cleaned up nice
I went a step further and took off the old rattle can silver spray on the side. That's mostley bare metal with only a little patch of the factory silver paint
I went a step further and took off the old rattle can silver spray on the side. That's mostley bare metal with only a little patch of the factory silver paint
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Rust treatment test run. Not so much a test run, but a quick buff-n-shine for fun. I'm debating wether I should treat the rusted bare metal areas with phosphoric acid, or just do this and hit it with a bunch o wax., maybe a very thin layer of owatrol first only on rusted areas, not painted areas.

The acid would of course offer the most protection for those bare metal areas, but it does change the look of the metal & rusted metal. But I dig the oiled metal looks
Surface rust, Before.
Surface rust, Before.
After a quick scrub with a soft scotchbrite pad & WD-40
After a quick scrub with a soft scotchbrite pad & WD-40
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now how are we gonna vote if you don't show us what the acid treatment looks like?

it's already improved here, but I'm wondering what our choice looks like.....
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That thing is already 3/4 stripped of paint. Finish it off and put some primer and paint on it. Or finish stripping it, clean up the metal and clear coat it.
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now how are we gonna vote if you don't show us what the acid treatment looks like?

it's already improved here, but I'm wondering what our choice looks like.....
Of course I'll have to show options for a vote Stay tuned

No paint work on this build. I'm not opening that RAT-hole for this Rat build. Maybe in the future, who knows; but for now she stay's as-is with just some cleanup.
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I'm diggin the progress. I like that last pic of the floorboards. The one just cleaned up with WD40 and a scrubby pad.

Chris and I should come down there and "help" you in putting that thing back together. And when I say "help", I really mean just distract you and make things take twice as long! Ha! Razz emoticon

It's nice to see this machine coming back. Well, it's at least on its way anyway. Good one!
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I'm diggin the progress. I like that last pic of the floorboards. The one just cleaned up with WD40 and a scrubby pad.

Chris and I should come down there and "help" you in putting that thing back together. And when I say "help", I really mean just distract you and make things take twice as long! Ha! Razz emoticon

It's nice to see this machine coming back. Well, it's at least on its way anyway. Good one!
Please do come 'help'! I need all the help I can get, in scooters and in life ROFL emoticon
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Keeping an eye out here for any bits and bobs I can help with.

Love the detailed pics and process...
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1958 Allstate 177VMC, 1962 Allstate, Yamaha Vino 70cc
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For the rusty bits on mine I used boiled linseed oil. Seems to be holding up well in that I put it on thick and hasn’t needed to be touched in about 6 months now. Looks sweet too, much better than that dry rust look anyways. Dunno how often I’ll have to hit it though.
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Following this closely as I'm starting a P200E rebuild myself. Full discloure: I've never even ridden a scooter, so I'm a total noob. I work on my old cars (including an old Fiat 500), so I can wrench, but I have a lot to learn.[/img]
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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yovinny - put up a new thread to introduce yourself to the neighborhood, looks like you've got a good project there. don't get all nuts trying to make it cosmetically perfect, get it running and riding first. you've picked the correct introduction bike for Vespas. welcome.
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The Dude
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
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sdjohn wrote:
yovinny - put up a new thread to introduce yourself to the neighborhood, looks like you've got a good project there. don't get all nuts trying to make it cosmetically perfect, get it running and riding first. you've picked the correct introduction bike for Vespas. welcome.
Seconded! Welcome Yovinny. As SDjohn said, start up a new thread so it's easy for everyone to follow along with your project. P200 is a great first scooter! It was my first as well. The Pseries is the workhorse of the Vespa world. Don't worry about cosmetics,ESPECIALLY because you're a new rider. Just get it clean, and focus on getting the mechanical stuff in TOP shape. Ride it for atleast 1 year, BEFORE you do any serious 'resto' stuff like paint etc. Good luck and we look forward to hearing more about your project.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll start a new threat so you all can laugh and throw rocks!
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