Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:07 am

Member
2010 BV 250
Joined: 28 Jun 2021
Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
Member
2010 BV 250
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Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:07 am linkquote
Bike turns and will sometimes run for 1or2sec then it shuts down can anybody help with this. 😱😱😱
Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:34 am

Molto Verboso
2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
Joined: 29 Jun 2016
Posts: 1499
Location: Toronto
 
Molto Verboso
2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
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Location: Toronto
Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:34 am linkquote
In order to be able to help, I think you will need to provide more details. For example, how many miles are on the bike? Was anything changed recently? How long have you had it?

Did everything work fine, and then it just recently start this shut down issue? Or has the bike progressively been acting up?
Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:22 pm

Member
2010 BV 250
Joined: 28 Jun 2021
Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
Member
2010 BV 250
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Location: Ct.
Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:22 pm linkquote
I found it😊😊😊😊

I'm not that bad when comes to the internet but site's, post, chats not that good thing's tend to move to fast in a chat.

Anyway I'll reply again with all the info you suggested and thank you again I feel better and I know I didn't really find the post you sent it back to me but it's still a win for me 😊😊😊.
Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:20 pm

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2010 BV 250
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Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
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2010 BV 250
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Location: Ct.
Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:20 pm linkquote
Wanted to let you know I got one of my BV 250 started and running but it needs some cosmetic repair and replacement😊 but she is running😊😊😊.

I've had them both for 2mo they both have a little over 2,000mi they are 2010 they sat for 2yr previous owner was the New York POLICE Department.

The second bike started for about 1sec then turned off and didn't run anymore it just keeps on trying to start.

I seen a video that suggested turning the idle screw up and it fixed the problem on the video.

I'm open to any suggestions just want to get them both on the road so I can have someone to ride with me.

Thank you in advance
Ride safe and enjoy
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:23 pm

Member
2010 BV 250
Joined: 28 Jun 2021
Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
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2010 BV 250
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Location: Ct.
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:23 pm linkquote
Today I got both the scooters towed home which is about 23mi/ 30min highway and when I got home I put the battery in the non running BV and started it and it started and ran for a whole 10/15 sec then right back to turning no start.

I tried to spraying starter fluid in the intake but no start I'm about to find the spark plug and change that next then I'm not sure what to do I mean she clearly wants to start.

I'm still looking for help



Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:30 pm

Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 40218
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 40218
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:30 pm linkquote
These are carb'd ones I take it? If you altered anything that looked like an idle screw on a fuel injection throttle body then you're off into uncharted waters...
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:07 pm

Member
2010 BV 250
Joined: 28 Jun 2021
Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
Member
2010 BV 250
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Location: Ct.
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:07 pm linkquote
I really didn't do anything to the bike yet I've been waiting for help and no carbs fuel injected I did take the fuel pump line out to see if gas was being pumped out and it was.
You turn the bike on and the pump primes itself.
If you let the bike sit for a day or 2 and then go start it it will run for a few seconds but if you touch the throttle it shuts right down.



Also I might have messed up big 😟.
I broke the piece on the back of the ignition that's shaped like a L it goes into the " L shaped piece that turns your bike off and on I sent picture of the part the L piece goes in to turn you bike on.
can that be fixed the L piece goes in this part but I broke it off the bike. I'll send pictures of the broken part next time.





Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:57 am

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 40218
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Posts: 40218
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:57 am linkquote
Bugout wrote:
I really didn't do anything to the bike yet I've been waiting for help and no carbs fuel injected
If you altered the preset idle screw at the throttle body, then you've really jinxed yourself. That is factory set and should NEVER be touched. It sounds like you should have merely cleaned the idle air bypass:
https://cheekythoma3.wixsite.com/itsme/idle
Quote:
Also I might have messed up big 😟.
I broke the piece on the back of the ignition that's shaped like a L it goes into the " L shaped piece that turns your bike off and on I sent picture of the part the L piece goes in to turn you bike on.
can that be fixed the L piece goes in this part but I broke it off the bike. I'll send pictures of the broken part next time.
You need to replace that. https://scooterpartsco.com/ricambi/021-vespa/lock-bar-for-ignition-298903
Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:36 am

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 9520
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Posts: 9520
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:36 am linkquote
jim is right on it, per usual.

the ignition switch is a cheap and easy fix. just plug and play new one.

but same man, if you messed with the factory setting on the throttle body it screws with the throttle position sensor. and that will need to be recalibrated/restored to factory settings.

I'll take a WAG and say you should be fine with a TB cleaning of the bypass and draining/flushing the tank, and run a few tanks of hi-test thru with a fuel system cleaner if, and only if you didn't get into the adjustment screws.
Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:40 am

Member
2010 BV 250
Joined: 28 Jun 2021
Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
Member
2010 BV 250
Joined: 28 Jun 2021
Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:40 am linkquote
Thank you all and I'll do all that's suggested and I'll let you know how it turns out because I took a ride on the one that runs but got down the street and she started acting up so I'm just going to drain all the fluids and see what happens from there..


Now back to my ignition problem I want to know can the part in the picture be replaced or how can I fix it.

You might have to look close.







Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:43 am

Member
2010 BV 250
Joined: 28 Jun 2021
Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
Member
2010 BV 250
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Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:43 am linkquote
My mistake the first picture is not part of my scooter but the other 2 are what I'm asking can it be fixed or how do I get it replaced.
Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:34 am

Hooked
Joined: 14 May 2009
Posts: 238
Location: CANADA
 
Hooked
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Location: CANADA
Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:34 am linkquote
Have you drained and replaced the old fuel? Having sat for 2 years or more the gas in the tank has likely gone bad, and the carb might also be gummed and need to be cleaned. Simple things first.
Bugout wrote:
Wanted to let you know I got one of my BV 250 started and running but it needs some cosmetic repair and replacement😊 but she is running😊😊😊.

I've had them both for 2mo they both have a little over 2,000mi they are 2010 they sat for 2yr previous owner was the New York POLICE Department.

The second bike started for about 1sec then turned off and didn't run anymore it just keeps on trying to start.

I seen a video that suggested turning the idle screw up and it fixed the problem on the video.

I'm open to any suggestions just want to get them both on the road so I can have someone to ride with me.

Thank you in advance
Ride safe and enjoy
Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:08 am

Moderaptor
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 40218
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 40218
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Sat Aug 07, 2021 9:08 am linkquote
What you have there is the end of the ignition barrel mechanism/steering lock. That 'L' shape goes into an ignition switch:
https://scooterpartsco.com/ricambi/021-vespa/ignition-switch-for-vespa-gt-gtv-gts-bv-primavera-sprint

Replace it. You'll need the spring clip as well.



Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:56 am

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
Joined: 02 Aug 2015
Posts: 2466
Location: Veria, Greece
 
Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Posts: 2466
Location: Veria, Greece
Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:56 am linkquote
He broke β€œL” from the lock bar and not the main switch. Seriously, how did you manage to do that?? Fork needs to be dropped for replacing that part…

https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/lock-bar-piaggio-ignition-lock_PI298903



Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:12 pm

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 40218
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
 
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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Posts: 40218
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:12 pm linkquote
I've already pointed him to that - but he seems not to have noticed. https://modernvespa.com/forum/post2486029#2486029

Plus he posts pictures of intact items?

The fork doesn't have to be dropped very far. it's not that tricky.
Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:42 am

Member
2010 BV 250
Joined: 28 Jun 2021
Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
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2010 BV 250
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Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:42 am linkquote
Thank you both for your reply I really appreciate it and now I know what to do. I'll keep you up on my progress. I'll be working on them for 2 more months or until it gets cold. I need to tune them up as well. It would be nice if I could find a shop to work on them but most here don't want to work on older bike's. So your help is much needed.

Thank you.
Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:45 am

Member
2010 BV 250
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Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
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2010 BV 250
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Location: Ct.
Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:45 am linkquote
Also thank you for the web site to buy parts much cheaper than the bike shop here in Connecticut.
Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:10 pm

Member
2010 BV 250
Joined: 28 Jun 2021
Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
 
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2010 BV 250
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Posts: 16
Location: Ct.
Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:10 pm linkquote
Hi it's me again and I hope I'm not a bother and I didn't do anything to the bike's I found a shop that's willing to tune them up for me but I don't want to spend $200.00 buck each for the shop to just change the gas and the bike runs fine. So I want to attempt to do some easy thing's, to see if she will stay running, like to get the old gas out I tried a siphon but the gas tank has like this curve thing in it and I couldn't get it to work. So I'm asking what is the easiest way to drain the gas tank? Should I just let it all pump out through the gas pump or is there a way to like drain the gas tank itself.


Also what should be done for a tune up on a bike for $200.00
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