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My other idea was a t5 tray for the top of the glove box to add another black accent there. I think that would do it. Got one Greasy?
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My other idea was a t5 tray for the top of the glove box to add another black accent there. I think that would do it. Got one Greasy?
hahaha! actually I do!
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Good condition or should I go new? They are only $16 at Mercato anyway.
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Good condition or should I go new? They are only $16 at Mercato anyway.
let me find it first... I'll have a deeper look tomorrow!
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Added to the list just to keep track
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Abuse the center stand much?
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Big rust removed, floor reshaped to fit a rail and have a flat spot where the stand was pulling it out of shape.

Yeah that's a pretty good tear on the right but hey, I'm learning and it was trashed. Good thing the floor rail will hide it ROFL emoticon .

I did get things shaped much more like a regular floor but without the mat it would not be show worthy at all.
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Fast etch done. Doing only top side today. Rails will have to wait for the bottom side to be finished, but I will try out the reinforcement plates for the center stand.
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Fast Etch FTW! I just got myself a new bottle. Good stuff
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Owatrol oil on, now wait………
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Fast etch done. Doing only top side today. Rails will have to wait for the bottom side to be finished, but I will try out the reinforcement plates for the center stand.
Center stand reinforcement plate...

5/8" x 1/8 or 3/16" stainless or aluminum flat bar. Home depot should have it.
Cut in 3" lengths. Drill holes before cutting, so it doesn't dance on you with a drill.

Rubber underneath:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K7JFXAA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

BTW the SIP plates gascooter used, with hooks for cargo, are very awesome.
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I ordered these from SIP, they should do it. But someone was suggesting fender washers be added somehow and I lost track of who or why.
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Gonna look great man. Nice job.
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The outer rails are so mangled that I'm glad I saved the rails from the Stella. The mat doesn't cover the outer rails, so they can't look like total ass.
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I ordered these from SIP, they should do it. But someone was suggesting fender washers be added somehow and I lost track of who or why.
Fender washers may or may not be needed between the reinforcement plate and the centerstand bracket. Reason being is that the center part of the centerstand can rub against the reinforcement plate. Spacing the centerstand brackets a tiny bit away from the reinforcement plate keeps it from rubbing.
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Thanks, I was hoping someone would remind me.
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Actually, the stand needs the "special" spring plates that keep it in contact with the mounting brackets and not the floor…

Piaggio OEM code: 258555
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Actually, the stand needs the "special" spring plates that keep it in contact with the mounting brackets and not the floor…

Piaggio OEM code: 258555
I'm glad you posted a picture of that spring plate. It could probably have been confusing to others not to use that plate since i didn't mention it in my posting. But with a couple of my scooters, that spring plate wasn't enough.
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I did get new spring plates, there were none.
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I forgot how slow that Owatrol oil is to dry. 24h is not even close. I had to get this thing out of the center of my garage, so the Mrs. can park in there. Had to shuffle it to the side and set up again. Any easy ideas for how to make an impromptu side stand while I continue to work on the bottom? It need not be pretty, but I don't want to bend the floor doing something dumb in the meantime.
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Just get yourself a big ol' block of wood like Scott did. Bonus points if you ride it like that and just take the block with you.
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Won't that just fall over when my careless 13 year old bumps it?
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Naah, it's pretty sturdy
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Significant lean looks to provide the stability… now where to find a hunk like that.
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Significant lean looks to provide the stability… now where to find a hunk like that.
Yeah, that's the kicker. I've worked on a couple jobs and kept a couple chunks, and they have come in handy for all kinds of stuff. I use it to help raise the engine close when installing myself. Also, on the back fender to raise up the body....

Maybe a job site of new construction?
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Naah, it's pretty sturdy
Can you tell me how high that is, I can fab one by putting together 2x4 scraps
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Can you tell me how high that is, I can fab one by putting together 2x4 scraps
8" wide x 5" thick x 10" tall
I think the 10" talk gives it a good lesn
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8" wide x 5" thick x 10" tall
I think the 10" talk gives it a good lesn
Thanks
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It's funny how something as small as an improvised side stand can change your whole work flow. I just realized I should have brought my center stand to work for sand blasting and painting today. Since I can get by without it on for a while, I can proceed directly to floor repairs on the bottom instead of reinstalling it until I get time to do the next steps. This is kind of a big deal, because I'm not sure when that next chunk of time to attack the bottom side will come - it's kind of a 1/2 day thing at least to clean the bottom, fast etch it, and coat it.
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It's funny how something as small as an improvised side stand can change your whole work flow.
I hear you. I love when that happens and time and effort are saved

I had a plumber friend that would take a 15 minute job and turn it into an hour looking for crap in his van.

I try to keep my crap somewhat organized and it makes things so much easier.

It's the little things...
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After four days, the owatrol oil is dry to the touch.

Cleaned up my rusty center stand and shot some primer on it. Didn't go nuts making it perfect, it's a low visibility item. New matte black for it tomorrow. Then back to the floors soon.
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Block has been repurposed as a wheel chock for minivan.
Nice block for the front tire to push against
Nice block for the front tire to push against
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Will need to do mock-up on the bike, but these should come in handy….
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today's tasks:
diagnose 2 rear signals not working but were OK up to the cowl connection. result: one side had a dead LED bulb that crumbled when I took it out. the other side had a wire detached from the signal housing.

scrub the floors on the bottom in prep for fast etch and owatrol oil.

go dig at the one spot of potential rot. it could be worse - it's through the outer layer and it got bigger than it appeared but aggressive poking does not go through. now how to address? I'm leaning towards fast etch, then prime/fill/paint this tiny area (it's out of sight). there is no way in hell the floorboards will be replaced and I have no welder or welding skills. way back near the beginning I posted some tunnel pics - it's solid from the back side as far as you can see. I don't think this is one to panic about. It need not be the perfect fix, it simply has to keep things from getting worse.
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Did someone say tunnel?!?

I sort of lost track of where this bike fits into your plans, but looks like you are just getting it together as a runner, not a museum piece.

So, I think you're good doing the wire wheel, rust treatment fiber glass filler thing. I don't remember if you treated/painted the inside of the tunnel, but the moisture/rusting will put pressure on the repair from the inside out so sealing it from the inside would help.

I don't think that area is really structural so no worries with fiberglass. If you were paying mucho bucks to have it resprayed, I would say to do it differently. A quick fix might last for ages and if not, a quick redo and some rattlecan and your on your way again. Sometimes less is more especially if you just want it to go down the road.

Sorry for overthinking your question.
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I could have just said patch it up and run it. I am getting to be such an old purist windbag.
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Yeah it's a runner bike that I will probably sell on, it's definitely not going the show bike route. It will be priced accordingly. It's interesting because there are clearly 2 layers of metal here, but I can't picture the structure behind it. The surrounding metal is solid.
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I could have just said patch it up and run it. I am getting to be such an old purist windbag.
I read it that way anyway
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