Ossessionato
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Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
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Lucky
![]() 76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
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Nedminder
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
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Nedminder
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The painting tree.
We all have one. The guy who bought my home probably wonders what kind of disease is causing the red/pea she and primer colors on his tree. Could always just go darker gray over existing if you don't like? |
bodgemaster
![]() 63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
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Sat, 02 Sep 2023 18:39:43 +0000
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No comment on the color - depends on the wheels & rest of the scoot.
But since you've already done all the prep and paint, why not splash some 2K clear over it? Get a nice rock hard finish on there that'll hold up and be easy to clean.
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Nedminder
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
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Nedminder
![]() 62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
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Sat, 02 Sep 2023 19:06:08 +0000
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Thumbs up on 2k clear.
Socal introduced me. Hard a a rock - legit |
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sun, 03 Sep 2023 00:12:12 +0000
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It's rust oleum pro aluminum. I'm thinking I may add some regular gray on top to better match the fork
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Ossessionato
![]() 79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62)
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sdjohn wrote: It's rust oleum pro aluminum. I'm thinking I may add some regular gray on top to better match the fork |
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sun, 03 Sep 2023 19:20:09 +0000
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Matches the powder coat on the fork and hub better. However, you ever get that can of spray paint that won't spray worth a shit no matter how much you shake it? You know, the one that could say "orange peel inside"? That's this can. It's a good thing this is not a high visibility part.
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sat, 16 Sep 2023 23:18:12 +0000
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I am stumped on the small bearing side. Is 15982 the little washer shown on the axle in the second picture? And part 2007, it looks to go under the screw in cap on the assembly picture but not in the Paxton book. Is it different for VBB vs later?
![]() Missing 15982 and 2007 it seems ![]() Washer 15982 on the axle??? What's the scoop on the spacer, that photo looks like it's in the way of the cap?!? |
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sat, 16 Sep 2023 23:35:18 +0000
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to top it off, my order says I bought them
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sun, 17 Sep 2023 00:14:35 +0000
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I now have enough parts and answers to continue. I will need one of those 2007's, but I'm not placing an order yet…
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sun, 17 Sep 2023 18:30:37 +0000
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The original needle bearings for the pivot don't feel very smooth after assembly. Should I replace them with something like this kit from Mercato?
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sat, 23 Sep 2023 22:33:23 +0000
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This big nut can't be right, or you can't get a socket on it. The smaller one I used was from the Allstate fork
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sat, 23 Sep 2023 22:34:24 +0000
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I think this is right?!? Seems weird to have a felt on the one side inside the spacer and nothing on the other side for a seal but that looks like the parts manual.
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sat, 23 Sep 2023 23:13:41 +0000
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It's so frustrating I have no idea what some of this shit I ordered is, not each piece comes with a part number. What the hell is this?
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sun, 24 Sep 2023 00:25:07 +0000
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Sacrificial lamb, good thing the Allstate fork had spare parts.
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Sun, 24 Sep 2023 21:05:33 +0000
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The Stoffi spring is a nightmare to get on. I tried a stock one and got it first or second try. I wrestled this bastard for like 1/2 hour or more. It's on. I hope I can get the fender bolts on.
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 03:53:00 +0000
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Do these "ears" on the shock serve a purpose? With the Stoffi spring, they don't line up. I had it assembled but couldn't get it home against the pivot because they don't line up. I tried rotating the bush by using a drift against the ears but it won't easily rotate in the rubber. I can't for the life of me understand what purpose they serve. Can I just flip the shock around and mount it? (Edit nope it will be in the way of the nut ?!$&@) - suggestions?!? Dremel them off ?!?
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Ossessionato
![]() 79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62)
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 05:07:09 +0000
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Hey John,
I think those tabs hold the suspension at a certain angle. I know I had to really compress everything to line the tabs up, then tighten it down. It was this way on both the 62 Allstate and the 63 GL. I just remember it was a PITA and took a lot of fanangling....
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 13:14:18 +0000
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I'm thinking that to get them to line up as is, I would have to go back to a stock shock. This stiff one does appear to be a bit longer. I'm debating it, because the length may be a problem. I have a couple stock ones.
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Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 1962 Allstate, Yamaha Vino 70cc
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Molto Verboso
1958 Allstate 177VMC, 1962 Allstate, Yamaha Vino 70cc
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I had to clamp a 2x4 to the swing arm to install that part.
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bodgemaster
![]() 63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:57:26 +0000
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john - the tabs are important. They determine the pre-load on the damper.
If it's absolutely impossible to get the tabs lined up, you can put the shock in the swing arm upside down and gently move the tabs to a better angle.
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:13:16 +0000
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108 wrote: You can't turn the rubber bushing? |
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Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
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Lucky
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:14:04 +0000
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FridayMatinee wrote: I had to clamp a 2x4 to the swing arm to install that part.
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![]() '15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:26:42 +0000
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The more I think about it, the spring length won't matter. I was able to get both the top and the bottom bolts of the dampener in and the tabs still didn't line up. Shock length would just make that more of a bitch to install (yes) but the tabs need to rotate, regardless of which spring is in there.
I didn't have a nut for the lower bolt last night but I do now. I will try the rotate the bushing thing. |
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:28:30 +0000
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I'm beginning to see why the PX bikes are the workhorse of the vintage world
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bodgemaster
![]() 63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:53:30 +0000
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SoCalGuy wrote: Are you compressing the shock while you're installing it? |
bodgemaster
![]() 63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
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Mon, 25 Sep 2023 17:07:30 +0000
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Don't know. I had to zip tie that SIP shock. No way it was going on otherwise.
Just don't rotate the bushing too far. The shock needs to travel in both directions. |
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