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Wow great find with that auto store color! The floor is gonna look like an exact match once trim goes on there. Put a shiny horn and trim on the front and you've got a 9/10 paint job
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sdjohn wrote: One lesson learned - don't reuse plastic drop cloths. If there is paint on there it will want to flake off and get in the fresh stuff. It wasn't obvious until it was. But I managed to avoid anything serious. I mean come on, it's only a couple bucks!! |
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mor_ wrote: Wow great find with that auto store color! The floor is gonna look like an exact match once trim goes on there. Put a shiny horn and trim on the front and you've got a 9/10 paint job I like how you put the correct curve back in the top of the legshield. I have to do the same for my VBB, though the bracket isn't broken. I was pondering how I was going to do this, but now I know. ![]() |
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There's still a repair lurking on the top, that broken brace needs a weld. But that will be a small additional paint repair, no big deal. At least now I can get on with the runners, etc. And yes I got the fit close earlier.
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whodatschrome wrote: Sounds like you learned the hard way John. Always have at least 12" of masking paper between the panels that are going to be painted and the plastic drop. And now you know why. |
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sdjohn wrote: What is this masking paper? And in a small job like this, can newsprint stand in for it?
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Some polishing on the frame today. Will be another couple repairs after I get a few items welded.
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Nice work. That cleaned up great.
I MIG weld like that all the time. You'd have to weld a really long time to get arc burn. |
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orwell84 wrote: Nice work. That cleaned up great. I MIG weld like that all the time. You'd have to weld a really long time to get arc burn.
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Of course we spilled gasoline in the area prior to starting, as required for safety 3rd
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BajaRob wrote: I don't think that much qualifys. Looks like you just cleaned something. 😉 ![]() |
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My best was between 4 to 5 gallons of avgas. Looks like a lot more than that on the floor. Good thing it evaporates really fast! I had the doors open at least.😵💫
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chandlerman wrote: I don't see what the issue was. It looked like SoCal had his good welding shorts on. *pulls sunglasses down* *fires off plasma cutter* |
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In the early 90's I did a lot of carbon arc brazing on patch panels. I knew how to weld with oxy/acetylene, but I was a student and had no place to keep the tanks.
The carbon arc brazing used a torch with two electrodes and an 80 amp buzz box stick welder. It sucked. The electrodes would constantly get loose in the holder and the torch would go out. It also would give you a pretty bad arc burn if you welded in shorts. I still have it and sometimes use it for heat shrinking. I would love to go back to oxy/acetylene because you can do so much it, but the MIG is unfussy and does just about everything. |
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Nicer weather today, it's been not so good. Of course the color spray can decided to only work in messy blobs, cans always seem to be suspect the 2nd time around. Good enough for me.
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Fitting floor rails and looking for center stand stuff today. Some drilling required on outers as they and the floor have been through the ringer.
Can anyone confirm either of these stands as VBB? They seem short enough… ![]() ![]() ![]() Against my px they look small enough…
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I decided I need to rivet these rails. This bike is another learning lab, and the stakes are super low. So why not learn the skill now?
I've been watching some videos on how to do it without the tool, it doesn't look too bad. Are the rivets the same on P, I think I have some spares. |
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The riveting is much easier than I anticipated. There's no reason to use screws except to hold the rail while riveting.
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sdjohn wrote: The riveting is much easier than I anticipated. There's no reason to use screws except to hold the rail while riveting. Rivets are super easy with a hammer and bucking bar, you just need a heavy enough bucking bar. |
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Looks great.
Yeah, I kinda turned it into brain surgery in my descriptions of the process. I do that with a lot of things actually. It's like being overly focused on something simple like walking or breathing. Suddenly it becomes really hard to do. |
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do i need this one instead?
https://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Floor-Rail-Rubber/94625 or this one? https://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Floor-Rail-Rubber/47243 second one says for original floor rails but who knows what has been done over the history of this thing?!?! |
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chandlerman wrote: This is the VBB, right? If so, the second one. |
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chandlerman wrote: But at least it'll go in real easy. ... oh, the floor rubber! yes, yes, of course. carry on. |
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Stand 1 seems to have been used without feet for a while…. There are bolts on the boots to keep them from tearing, but the angle on the stand posts seems like it's probably over.
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Stand 2 has level bottoms but seems a bit wider than stand 1. Can I clean up this finish or should I just paint it? Is it bent outward, should the legs be 90 degrees to the top?
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Legs should be ninety degrees from the crossbar. Past that, go with the one that's the better fit.
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