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Never mind, one is longer. They are chunky though. It won't just turn at the corner. What do you do about that?
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Is the bayonet bulb running or brake?
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Bayonet is running, top one is stop.
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The cowl took a ton of persuasion to mate up, had to make new shapes of the bottom floor. Should have done that pre paint!! It seems ok now.

Still wondering how the cowl rubber works, it's not going to turn those lower corner bends.
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The cowl took a ton of persuasion to mate up, had to make new shapes of the bottom floor. Should have done that pre paint!! It seems ok now.

Still wondering how the cowl rubber works, it's not going to turn those lower corner bends.
Might help to heat up with a heat gun (hair dryer, sshhh) and gently pull around corner while holding the beginning side to keep from slipping.
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This headset is freaking me out like the fork. I've got a pile of random pieces and no clue what's missing. Time to work those parts diagrams again. Anyone know if a good video showing it going together?
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cowl rubber: a little cupcake cut on the inside and you can usually make the turn.

cut less than you think you'll need. easier to take more out than add more back in!
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thanks to chandlerman for answering in this older thread that is useful:
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the washer between the shift tube and the headset seems to be unobtanium - not on SIP or anybody in the USA either. not sure if you can get away with using another of the fiber washers that are thicker or perhaps cutting the tab off a wavy washer and using one of those (they are closer to the 0.5mm thickness at 1mm, the fiber are like 2.5mm thick).
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the washer between the shift tube and the headset seems to be unobtanium - not on SIP or anybody in the USA either. not sure if you can get away with using another of the fiber washers that are thicker or perhaps cutting the tab off a wavy washer and using one of those (they are closer to the 0.5mm thickness at 1mm, the fiber are like 2.5mm thick).
Got you covered! New stainless model on the left.
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So cool, BajaRob rocks!!
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I just went through a similer ordeal with a shift tube replacement. Following a factory diagram I first put the washer p/n: 60312 (.5mm thick) next to the gear numbers. Then inserted the shift tube in the head set, then the fiber washer p/n: 60566 then the tabbed spring washer p/n: 60535 then the actuating lever for the shift cables, flat washer, lock washer & bolt/screw. I do know that the fiber and tabbed washers go on the throttle side same order as well. As for what goes between the throttle grip and headset, not sure since mine has some sort of spring thing & washer incorporated. Hope that helps.
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this has me worried today:

rear brake pedal install on VLB
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Which way does the curve go, towards the pedal like this or opposite?
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I found this picture, I think I see!

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excellent treasure trove of pics in lynnb's thread:

my vbb again
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are the Mercato guys on vacation? I ordered something last week and still no shipping info....
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I ordered some stuff May 2nd and it shipped May 3rd. Due to arrive May 9th.
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They shipped today, I see they were out of the speedo gasket and were probably holding off thinking they'd come in.
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They shipped today, I see they were out of the speedo gasket and were probably holding off thinking they'd come in.
The age-old dilemma...do I include the backordered item and wait for it to ship, or just bite the bullet and do a second order later?
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This is an ok one to miss, the speedo is not of much importance in the scheme of things.
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Are these fender mount holes supposed to be threaded? They may be covered in powder coat. I can't tell. They seem M7. I want this fork installed this weekend if possible.
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I don't think so, they aren't on the VNA's.
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Are these fender mount holes supposed to be threaded? They may be covered in powder coat. I can't tell. They seem M7. I want this fork installed this weekend if possible.
Nope.
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So are the bolts m7 but I need to clear out the holes then? Anyone know the length? M7 is such a pain to find.
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I may go straight evil and use standard hardware just to make it happen. I despise that solution but I wanna make this a roller by Monday.
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Not certain, but I don't think so. Every scooter I've worked on is a through bolt from the top and nut underneath....
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So are the bolts m7 but I need to clear out the holes then? Anyone know the length? M7 is such a pain to find.
I used M6 on my Allstate mudguard.
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I used M6 on my Allstate mudguard.
I like that idea better than the 1/4" idea.
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Lowes has 7mm hardware
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Lowes has 7mm hardware
Really? I have a Lowe's that's not too far away. I'm gonna need to check that out.
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I think it's M5 15mm (front) or M5 20mm (rear)

Smallies are M5 for sure... and I believe the large frames are samsies.
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How about the side fasteners? Also same size? I was being short sighted and not worrying about them. No trim on the fender.
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Also M5 X12 or 15mm? but with a fat round head (Like my cousin Stubb). And has some washers that ya need too for that one.
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M6 on top…
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thanks everyone!
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My comments are based off what SIP said fit via their exploded views/diagrams. It's what I ordered from them and installed on the ET3. Seems to fit fine... but that said, I'd also trust Safis' knowledge more than SIP.
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I'm not really too finicky about being a concourse restoration here, remember what we are dealing with Laughing emoticon . It will still be a bitsa bike assembled from Greasy's horde when we are all done.

So long as I can get something to mate it that doesn't look too gnarly, I'm good.
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Tires mounted. NOKS. New old kajiit stock. The tires are brand new but aged. The tubes are from scooterwest, but alas one has a straight valve stem and will have to be replaced. Why would they ever sell that as appropriate? They are also NOKS.

Weird fasteners on the one rim are narrow and only 11mm head. The other is built with regular m8 nuts.
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