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agreed that's the fast and correct path

however, finances say no - I spent that money on the vape....

so no going whole hog for now.
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Congrats!

My personal advice would be just grab the Pinasco177 and the 20.20 cab and exhaust. It's a much more enjoyable ride, even with a not so tuned carb.
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this box of fancy is costing me more than I "paid" for this scooter. ROFL emoticon
ROFL emoticon

But it's such a great box of fancy!

I really do love the Vape. Such a good piece of kit.
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Replacing an electrical system on a Vespa is like buying a new fridge. As long as the old harvest gold unit keeps chugging away, I'm happy with it. French doors, an ice maker and WiFi connectivity will never get me excited about spending money on it. But when it shits the bed during a July heat wave while you're away in Europe…

No fun when you get everything going and the electrical system holds you back. I guess you can go cheap if you are good with electronics and live next door to the last Radio Shack on earth (RIP Radio Shack). I didn't get a Vape unit but the stator and trail tech regulator I bought are probably approaching the same money. If the flywheel is demagnetized, then probably dead even. There is the fucking around factor too which adds $$ unless you really like that sort of red hot multimeter action.

These scooters are money pits like any other old vehicle. If you plug a money leak one place, there will surely be a bigger one somewhere else. I think you've done good on this project. Nice clean oldie and an honest 50+ mph on an old dual port is no small feat. The constant sucking force that scooters exert will soon dislodge the necessary wad of cash for the go faster bits. Trust the suck. It is a relentless force.
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The constant sucking force that scooters exert will soon dislodge the necessary wad of cash for the go faster bits. Trust the suck. It is a relentless force.
this should be in your signature ROFL emoticon
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this should be in your signature ROFL emoticon
Maybe. After years of posting windbaggery on this forum, I may eventually spit out some pearl of wisdom.
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this should be in your signature ROFL emoticon
It should be in all our signatures. ROFL emoticon
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Maybe. After years of posting windbaggery on this forum, I may eventually spit out some pearl of wisdom.
"Trust the suck" right on, love it!
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Inaugural ride on main roads. It's good for about 45 on the flats. Max speed 52.6 does not earn plaid.

Would a 20.20 carb make a notable difference? A sip road 2?

I know a 2 port 177 is in the future but maybe I can spread out the improvements.
Way to go, glad you're mobile! Nothing wrong with spreading out the mods, especially when you're a family man.
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OK if I do the SIP road - is there any point to pulling off the cylinder and raising the exhaust port 1-2mm? I have another 2 port top end, so it's really no risk other than just getting it sealed back up again. Once I go to the effort to pull the exhaust, it's only a bit further to try. Maybe just a waste of time though.
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I would think raising it and widening it a bit couldn't hurt. But I'm no expert, more a spectator wanting to live and learn vicariously through your trials and errors. Razz emoticon
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Can you make plaid on a downhill run or do you have to be level? 🤔
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Yeah I know about the 2 port pinasco but I'm spreading out the suck!
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Can you make plaid on a downhill run or do you have to be level? 🤔
Plaid is plaid. No requirements for level ground, just a 60 mph confirmation.

Current setup will not rev that far, but I have a bigger hill to try- might get 55 out of it.
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Plaid is plaid. No requirements for level ground, just a 60 mph confirmation.

Current setup will not rev that far, but I have a bigger hill to try- might get 55 out of it.
Do you know what it *will* rev to? It might be as easy as a clutch swap.
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Do you know what it *will* rev to? It might be as easy as a clutch swap.
3rd revs higher by a bit. I can do a speed run with my recorder and reverse engineer it. It's a sprint gearbox, with 23/65 primary to get it right for 8". It's just not enough power to pull 4th as far. With the 177 it will probably be geared correctly.
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Nothing wrong with spreading out the mods, especially when you're a family man.
you hush up over there! I'm trying to get him hooked set up with his next project!!
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Downhill Johnny does not have the same ring as Two Tone Johnny… IJS.
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Downhill Johnny does not have the same ring as Two Tone Johnny… IJS.
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you hush up over there! I'm trying to get him hooked set up with his next project!!
Did someone say Project?!? my ears are a ringing lol
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I thought it was just prove you have the cajones to do 60 on 8's, but I will strive to earn it on flat ground as well at some point.
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Did someone say Project?!? my ears are a ringing lol
no way are you getting this POS Laughing emoticon

He has others you can snag
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He has others you can snag
LOL I wouldn't dream of sniping on ya! There is plenty to go around
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LOL I wouldn't dream of sniping on ya! There is plenty to go around
It's literally a frame, but that allows a lot of freedom in what it becomes .

Let's go raid the stash together, it would be a party!!
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It's literally a frame, but that allows a lot of freedom in what it becomes .

Let's go raid the stash together, it would be a party!!
Oh I'm SO down! Party in the USA
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Fine. I ordered the exhaust.

ROFL emoticon

I have 2 friends locally offering to give me a 20.20. So I don't need to buy that.

It's a start.
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Fine. I ordered the exhaust.

ROFL emoticon

I have 2 friends locally offering to give me a 20.20. So I don't need to buy that.

It's a start.
While you guys are perusing (raiding) the stash, I might as well bring the pastrami and make it a real party, Johnny Plaid! I just need two weeks notice so the meat can brine. 😉
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While you guys are perusing (raiding) the stash, I might as well bring the pastrami and make it a real party, Johnny Plaid! I just need two weeks notice so the meat can brine. 😉
Pastrami party! Much better than a sausage party
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I really like the turn this has taken.
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Stadium mirror - not so useful but looks badass. Vibration renders it kinda useless even once it's pointed correctly.

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Stadium mirror - not so useful but looks badass. Vibration renders it kinda useless even once it's pointed correctly.
I've tried stadium/legshield mirrors various times over the years and the only one that's ever worked worth a damn for me is the one on my Lammy.

I tried them on my Smallie, GL, VBB, and Sprint and none of them were good for anything more than possibly avoiding a ticket--assuming the mirror didn't just fall off while riding.
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I've tried stadium/legshield mirrors various times over the years and the only one that's ever worked worth a damn for me is the one on my Lammy.

I tried them on my Smallie, GL, VBB, and Sprint and none of them were good for anything more than possibly avoiding a ticket--assuming the mirror didn't just fall off while riding.
That's funny, the one on my Lammy was equally useless. ROFL emoticon
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Bummer! Mine works great on the Allstate....
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Fold out mirror works great on my P. No vibrations and clear views
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