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One on the left and one on the right. Red and black wires if I remember correctly. It shouldn’t matter which way.
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It’s odd that they number the terminals 1 & 2 and the wires 3 & 6.
Moto64 wrote: #3- Red/ Ground #1 Black-power |
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Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
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Killo wrote: It’s odd that they number the terminals 1 & 2 and the wires 3 & 6. |
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Yeah. Actually, the terminals on the coil are numbered 1+3. The wires in the diagram numbered 3+6 are the colors : black and red. The coil will work with the wires reversed but I believe it is more efficient wired correctly.
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Moto64 wrote: Yeah. Actually, the terminals on the coil are numbered 1+3. The wires in the diagram numbered 3+6 are the colors : black and red. The coil will work with the wires reversed but I believe it is more efficient wired correctly. |
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I was looking at it on my phone. I can see now that there are numbers on the coil. Red and Black wires to terminals 1 & 3 on the coil.
Moto64 wrote: Yeah. Actually, the terminals on the coil are numbered 1+3. The wires in the diagram numbered 3+6 are the colors : black and red. The coil will work with the wires reversed but I believe it is more efficient wired correctly. |
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Moto64 wrote: #3- Red/ Ground #1 Black-power Normally black is ground. The diagram below (for GL) shows black-ground to the #1 terminal, red-positive to #2. Regardless, the colors don’t matter as long as the wiring is consistent and the circuit isn’t shorted. |
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I would say that it doesn’t even really matter as those old brown coils are 90% shit anyway. I have five or six of them sitting on my shelves collecting dust. I only use the 6 volt PX Piaggio blue ones for reliability. They work great with one red wire an HT cable.
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Agreed. That's what I'm running on my SS as well.
nomadinsiam wrote: I would say that it doesn’t even really matter as those old brown coils are 90% shit anyway. I have five or six of them sitting on my shelves collecting dust. I only use the 6 volt PX Piaggio blue ones for reliability. They work great with one red wire an HT cable. |
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Why they ignore the terminal numbers on the coil itself is beyond me...
OK, regardless of color : Terminal #3 on coil = Ground. And yes, I had a brand new brown coil that's bad out of the box and went with a standard 6v metal one on the SS. |
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Oh Brother ! Wrong again.. I looked at the coil upside down as mounted and saw the 2 as a 3.... It is , in fact, labeled 1 and 2, which certainly makes more sense.
Maybe I had it backwards on the SS and that is why it would cut out after about 20 miles ?? |
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Since this coil is used on an SS, I think I will go with the GL's wiring diagram: #1 is black = earth, and #2 is red = power. This colour (red) is the same colour as the wire going to the kill switch.
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Yes that's the way.
I'm sorry, but I don't know how I screwed this up. On all the diagrams I can find that seem to use this coil, terminal #1 goes to ground. Except VS2-5 GS150 which do something different. |
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