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Has anybody ever heard of/used WMA motorsports lift table? It is even cheaper than Harbor Freights and wanted to see if anybody had any intel.
https://wmastore.com/product/xl-1000-lb-hydraulic-motorcycle-lift-table-jack-stand-shop-ramp/
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The raised sides make it a no-no. You either need a totally flat platform of at least 11", or one with sides with 18" between the sides. This is because of the centre-stand, which pretty much has to be deployed for some service operations.

The flat sides of the HF one make it ideal. Just wait for one of their offers, or keep an eye out on Craigslist etc.
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ALL of what jim said, plus it's straight hydro not air over so it would take for-ev-er to get to height.

beyond that it looks kinda narrow and spindly. plus those sides? F and that.

troll up c'list for a handy or wait till HF puts theirs on sale.
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I saw somewhere that you now have to subscribe to a HF club to get coupons. I did just see a used HF for 275 here in Maryland. They just listed, so maybe I have a chance.

What I'd really like is one of the Kendon stand-up lift tables. That would help it not be an eyesore/annoyance for the spouse. They seem to always be out of stock though.
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KimPossible wrote:
What I'd really like is one of the Kendon stand-up lift tables. That would help it not be an eyesore/annoyance for the spouse. They seem to always be out of stock though.
I had one. Sold it. Great idea, but doesn't work for modern Vespas at all.

Awesome for most motorcycles, though.

EDIT: It's not clear to me if the current version is equally unsuitable for modern Vespas. It looks slightly different than the one I had.
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Here ya go.

HF $250. Hire a buggy and go pick it up.

https://advrider.com/f/threads/motorcycle-lift-table-lancaster-county-pa.1513890/
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Hah - I think I have a solution, at least temporarily. We have a back up Hoyer patient lift with max weight of 600 lbs. I remember seeing a post about someone who suspended their scoot from the ceiling. Ill see where they connected and hang the scooter from the Hoyer. I already have all the pieces necessary.
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DIY Work Bench/Ramp

A few of these ideas are collapsible. Search around, could be cheaper and less unsightly. I remember one that was made of all flat plywood that came apart and stored flat shown off on MV.
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Hah - I think I have a solution, at least temporarily. We have a back up Hoyer patient lift with max weight of 600 lbs. I remember seeing a post about someone who suspended their scoot from the ceiling. Ill see where they connected and hang the scooter from the Hoyer. I already have all the pieces necessary.
A Hoyer? Now that's creative!

I have a Kendon that I purchased from tomjasz. He'd had it modified to fit the smaller front tires. Yes, the width isn't much and it does have sides, but instead of the center stand I can jack up the rear pretty easily. A wide flat top does seem appealing pretty often.... Nerd emoticon

Maybe not my first choice if I had it to do over, but it works fine and doesn't take much space when stored. Still pricey by HF standards.
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A lift is not something I would get creative with. It's a lot of weight you're going to have perched up high with you under it.

Truth is, you don't need a lift to do any of the stuff you are attempting to do. It makes life easier, for sure but is not mandatory. Lots of people wrench on the ground in their flip flops!

Worst case, buy a small scissor lift if you need to tilt the engine down a bit. If I didn't already have one, I would buy this one:

https://www.scooterwest.com/scooter-jack-scissor-lift-tool-for-most-scooters-motorcycles.html[/quote]
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I know I don't have to have a lift, but it is very hard for me to get up and down to the ground. Also, I'm much less concerned about dropping the scooter than dropping my spouse! I trust Hoyer more than I trust harbor freight in general.

That said, I'm not sure I trust any of the lash points people have used. So now I'm thinking of using a 3/4 plywood piece that I already have as a platform. This wouldn't cost extra money, but more importantly wouldn't take up additional space in the garage.
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I wouldn't try this myself, but for the price, I thought some adventurous soul my consider this for working on a smaller bike:

https://www.unicatly.com/products/%F0%9F%94%A5-summer-sale-wooden-lifting-table
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I wouldn't try this myself, but for the price, I thought some adventurous soul my consider this for working on a smaller bike:

https://www.unicatly.com/products/%F0%9F%94%A5-summer-sale-wooden-lifting-table
This is very likely a scam website. The price for that table is way too low if it's really made as shown in the photos and video. I saw a similar website (different name, same fonts, and look/feel) for ordering a bicycle repair stand. The price was so incredible, I thought I'd take a chance. About 2 months after placing my order a package showed up with a cheap ($5) watch inside. The seller used tracked shipping so they could claim the package was delivered. When I contacted them, they wanted me to return the watch on my own dime and then said they would refund my money. Nope, I don't play that game. I reported the scam to my credit card company who immediately refunded my money. The refund was not contested. The watch went in the garbage.

If the price seems too good to be true, it probably is.

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I know people seem to like them, but I still don't trust all that weight on a HF lift. Their hand tools are okay, and I have quite a few items from there. (It's 3 miles away…) but stuff where I could get hurt if it fails? Nope!!

I went way overboard and got a Handy S.A.M 1000 (now 1200) and haven't regretted it once in the 15 years since.

Do NOT use a Craftsman portable motorcycle lift(or whatever the same design is sold as now.) It doesn't work with the weight aft scooters. Mine tipped with just a Metropolitan on it!
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My wife bought some large sacks of dried cow manure for the garden.
I park the scooter next to a bag and push it over until it rests on the bag. Would also work with a bean bag?
Now with everything accessible, I sit on a low step stool.
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If you glue a dozen automobile tyres tubes on top of each other and inflate them, you will still get an inexpensive lift. Razz emoticon
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I mounted an eye-bolt in two rafters of my garage, then using prepared lengths of rope, I would support the scoot without side or center stand. I was still working on the floor, but without the stand(s) in the way.
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I built a lift out of an I beam & some channel
at the time I started designing I needed to lift a K1100lt, by the time I built it burgmans & chinese eternal projects
Here's right before I "realized" I needed centerstand platforms & a way to bind one wheel down to work on the other
After I lowered it the front wheel popped out of the clamp & the scooter hit the ground, bounced pretty well
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The cable goes to the back twice, it would handle the weight
I worked on the shock & replaced the rear tire
Good to be able to get the height just so & not have to bend over
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The cable goes to the back twice, it would handle the weight
I worked on the shock & replaced the rear tire
Good to be able to get the height just so & not have to bend over
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Since the floor was gravel, I buried the legs & finished with stall mats, which are cheap & easier on my knees
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caschnd1 wrote:
This is very likely a scam website. The price for that table is way too low if it's really made as shown in the photos and video.
There's 7 different dodgy websites purporting to sell that. And one showing how to build it, but I don't think poor Marius Hornberger is getting a cent from your $29.98.

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I built a lift out of an I beam & some channel
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Nice! You could lift a truck with the strength of that I-beam
I like the Miller Mig welder in your photos. I had an engine drive Miller arc welder back when I had to build/maintain horse fencing that was 1/4 mile from the nearest electrical outlet. Miller makes a great product.

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I built a lift out of an I beam & some channel
Nice design!
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The miller has been a workhorse, 030 fluxcore & enough passes will do whatever..
I'm on my 2nd cheap chopsaw
The biggest challenge is drilling large holes freehand with a big ol milwaukee drill trying to rip my thumb off when it catches

Here's a scissors jack to lift the bike to deploy the centerstand
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Here's a fixed height stand built from 2 x 6, 2 x 4, 4 x 4, deck screws
I used an eyebolts lagscrewed to a roof trusses to swing the motor onto my work bench, to regasket [oil leaks] with tiedowns
The xs650 yam that looks like a triumph was my semi-annual fun for years
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What do my ex-biker eyes see? I seem to know that model of motorcycle.
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Here's a fixed stand out of railroad ties screwed together with 1/2" unistrut hanger studs
I had 150 or so of these, which got used for anything I could figure out how to adapt them to, through bolts for peeler core fence posts

The stand has a platform for the centerstand
I'm able to put a scooter on it by myself, with no sides on the rail or the centerstand bit made it tricky
Had to shim the wheel chock for each different width tire
Again a couple of 1" x 4' x 6' rubber stall mats $40 at your local feed store

The bike is the same pink lance from above
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What do my ex-biker eyes see? I seem to know that model of motorcycle.
This particular specimen started out as a 1980 heritage special [electronic ignition]
I replaced the 16" rear with an aluminum rimed 18" & matching front, drilled disc
Ditched the buckhorn bars for a flattrack bend
Without a balance shaft it would walk down the driveway at idle
Ditched the tach, as it provided ample vibratory feedback
Fussed around endlessly with the carbs & sprockets chasing perfect tune
Shook light bulbs & electronics apart, switched to old style regulator after the electronic one crumbled
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Didn't hold nearly enough gas
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Here is a drive thru bike barn
Backing up the 650 burg on the packed dirt sucked
The frame is a few insta garages combined, attached to buried cinder blocks & skined with corrugated aluminum roofing, tarp doors, stallmat or pavers to park on
The gables expanded aluminum sheet from a defunct satellite dish
Survived wind & rain for 5 years
When we moved in there were various hoards of different materials, all the neighbors have similar stashes of stuff
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