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Hope you get well soon. Just another reminder that anything can happen.

I hate my armored jeans. They've been sitting in my closet for 3 years now. I also hate wearing gloves. I hate the look of that gash more though... Facepalm emoticon

Sorry you had to deal with all that. Thanks for the reminder to stay safe. I will begrudgingly put on ALL of my gear. At least for a while.
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Hope you get well soon. Just another reminder that anything can happen.

I hate my armored jeans. They've been sitting in my closet for 3 years now. I also hate wearing gloves. I hate the look of that gash more though... Facepalm emoticon

Sorry you had to deal with all that. Thanks for the reminder to stay safe. I will begrudgingly put on ALL of my gear. At least for a while.
So you're hating your armored jeans and gloves, is it because they're uncomfortable to wear? If so, then they aren't doing you any good hanging in the closet. Go invest into safety gear that is comfy to wear. Heck, i love wear gloves when riding. I ride/race both dirtbikes and scooters, and when i go down, 98% of the time my hands will hit the ground more often than my head does.
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I'm so sorry candlerman. Same thing happened to me, like almost 40 years ago (damn, I got old). Difference was I had been drinking. Laid down my Kawasaki 500 (2 stroke -fast, fast, fast). Ripped right thru my new jeans, leather belt, heavy jeans jacket - so jeans aren't sh*t compared to the road. Wore leathers for years, now gear with armor. Even my summer mesh jacket and pants has armor. I quit drinking after that and have not dropped a bike since except on dirt trails. Heal fast brother.
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I hate gloves period. I have some nice ones. Not many gloves are comfortable in Texas heat. But, it's more a tactile thing. And fingerless seem pointless.

But, as for the armored jeans, you are correct. They are not well fitting. Especially since I lost 30lbs.

But, I always do wear at least jeans, Dr Martens and an armored jacket. Gloves mostly.

But, I should invest in better gear for my lower extremities and be more diligent about wearing quality gloves.
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I hate gloves period. I have some nice ones. Not many gloves are comfortable in Texas heat. But, it's more a tactile thing. And fingerless seem pointless.

But, as for the armored jeans, you are correct. They are not well fitting. Especially since I lost 30lbs.

But, I always do wear at least jeans, Dr Martens and an armored jacket. Gloves mostly.

But, I should invest in better gear for my lower extremities and be more diligent about wearing quality gloves.
Crappy gloves are crappy. Start your search for expensive (vented) gloves that feel tactile. And good for you for loosing 30lbs! Now buy yourself a nice pair of fitted armored pants as a treat to yourself.

Short story:
I was at a scooter rally many years ago, and the "in thing" for the moped kids was to wear fingerless gloves...well you guessed it. One of the mopeds kids arrived to the destination a little bit later than everyone else because he went down and tore a bunch of skin off of his fingertips and knuckes. He did own up to his mistake about wearing fingerless gloves though.
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Sorry to hear and hope u have a speedy recovery as well Brother C

In my place, well my mom told about a tradition to wash the bike with a water full of flowers to kick away all the bad luck, and everytime i get a new used bike i always wash it with flowers and its smell nice if i may say

Take a good rest and smile Brother C, its the best cure ever
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Thanks!

I was down hard most of the week after a secondary infection, but am now through that. I think the only long term impacts of this are going to be some awesome scars and a lot of pressure from my wife to find a "less dangerous hobby."
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I should figure out a tattoo to memorialize this event. She'd dig me leaning in to my misfortune.
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I'll own up that most of my riding is done in my work uniform, but the two things that always roll are a FF helmet and gloves. always.

sorry to sound like a school marm:

gloves. gloves. gloves.

helmet. helmet. helmet.

no flippy-flops, long pants please and thank you.

remember, just like Sarah from 10th grade, black top doesn't know you exist, doesn't like you, doesn't care what you're wearing and definitely won't go to the winter formal even if you ask.
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I made it back out to the workshop today and happened to notice the damage to my jacket from Monday's crash.

I tore clear through the reinforced elbow, and the shoulder wasn't much better. I didn't think to check my helmet for impacts (I don't think it hit, and hope it didn't because replacing it won't be cheap).

Regardless, that jacket saved me from a lot more pain than I've already gone through, for sure.
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As much of a "bad luck" incident, really that you're mostly up and about is a pretty lucky. Considering the circumstances, glad to see that. Could have been much worse. Certainly been food for thought and a reminder to gear up. I even wore my gloves today...
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gloves. gloves. gloves.
I had an older rider tell me gloves keep your fingers from becoming crayons.

Haven't ridden without gloves since. I've invested a lot of time and money into guitars. I'd hate to have to sell them.
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I had an older rider tell me gloves keep your fingers from becoming crayons.

Haven't ridden without gloves since. I've invested a lot of time and money into guitars. I'd hate to have to sell them.
no lies. my last off wasn't too terrible. wrenched my ankle up real good and destroyed a 60's suit. but my icon gloves saved my ass. well, them and the Carolina jump boots. with out them, I would've been in a bad way. I make my living with my hands and they saved me for sure on that one.

Icon pursuit classic. they break in super fast, and they don't look all Tron or stormtrooper or anything. but they've got great knuckle protection and palm pad. and they have little snappy snappies on the cuff to keep them together so you don't lose one!
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Lucky for me, I'd just replaced my old, worn-out gloves with a pair of Noru Doro leather gloves.

If I hadn't, I'd be in a bad way, because I also effectively make my living with my hands (if I can't type, it doesn't matter what's going on in my brain). The armor on the knuckles was good.

As an aside, yesterday I happened to drive down the on-ramp where I crashed and was struck by how dangerous it really is. Guardrail on the left, no shoulder, just a tiny drainage culvert, then a solid rock cliff face that you either turn or hit. And it's made worse by the fact that the turn is a little over halfway down the ramp, so the natural instinct is to accelerate toward highway speeds once you're on the ramp.

It looks less so in the street view picture, but you still get the general idea. The fact that the guardrail is beat to hell and the culvert is full of car parts supports my hypothesis, though. It's definitely not the sort of place you want to find yourself going too fast on short notice.

Knee continues to heal slowly. I'm still fairly gimpy--there's just not enough skin after they stitched it all up, so movement pulls on it and makes the who mess sore pretty quickly. But I'm feeling ok other than that, which is a big improvement from last week when I was in bed due to infection.

And I'm going to have a hell of a scar once this thing is said and done.
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That pothole doesn't exactly look inviting either.
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That pothole doesn't exactly look inviting either.
Nope, and it's both Not Alone and Not Going Away Any Time Soon. You should see the off-ramp on the other side. It's like the surface of the moon.
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I think the only thing missing is Wile E. Coyote painting a fake tunnel in that rock face.
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This thread reminds me I need new gloves and a new helmet - they're getting tired, and it's not something to slack on (obviously)
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yeesh!

I get grumpy about some roads around here... looks like I've got nothing to complain about!

glad you came out intact my man!
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Lucky for me, I'd just replaced my old, worn-out gloves with a pair of Noru Doro leather gloves.

If I hadn't, I'd be in a bad way, because I also effectively make my living with my hands (if I can't type, it doesn't matter what's going on in my brain). The armor on the knuckles was good.

As an aside, yesterday I happened to drive down the on-ramp where I crashed and was struck by how dangerous it really is. Guardrail on the left, no shoulder, just a tiny drainage culvert, then a solid rock cliff face that you either turn or hit. And it's made worse by the fact that the turn is a little over halfway down the ramp, so the natural instinct is to accelerate toward highway speeds once you're on the ramp.

It looks less so in the street view picture, but you still get the general idea. The fact that the guardrail is beat to hell and the culvert is full of car parts supports my hypothesis, though. It's definitely not the sort of place you want to find yourself going too fast on short notice.

Knee continues to heal slowly. I'm still fairly gimpy--there's just not enough skin after they stitched it all up, so movement pulls on it and makes the who mess sore pretty quickly. But I'm feeling ok other than that, which is a big improvement from last week when I was in bed due to infection.

And I'm going to have a hell of a scar once this thing is said and done.
Road engineering from hell!
That road isn't banked at all.
It should look like the opposing lane at that curve.
Lots of roads like that in Mexico. Lots of crosses on the sides of roads too.
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I think it has a little bit of slope *toward* the wall for drainage purposes, now that you mention it.

So, yeah, that ramp is basically a nightmare.
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I went to the orthopedist today for a follow-up and they said that other than the fact that it has a huge-ass gash on it, my knee is fine, so that was good to know. It's still too stiff and sore to do much more than sit around with my leg on my desk, but it's healing along.
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That's great to hear. Gotta be painful but, temporary pain is better than permanent damage.
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I got back on the bike for the first time since the accident today (not counting the fact that I rode it home afterwards) to run to the grocery store for a couple things. My wife was pretty unpleased. I believe her exact words were, "You're not even fully healed yet! If you need a ride to the emergency room, I'm not taking you."

Anyways...it was good to be back on the bike. It took more damage than I initially realized. The lefthand cowl has some pretty good-sized dents, not just scratches, the left side of the legshield was creased back pretty good, and the mudguard has some scratches and a wrinkle, too.

The more worrisome thing I noticed is that when I brake hard with the front brake, it feels like it wants to pull to the left a little. I don't recall that previously being the case, so I'm worried that the fork or frame got bent. Anyone have thoughts on that?

All-in-all, it was good to be back on two wheels.
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LOL! "If you break your leg, don't come running to me!"

My wife would be the same way. It's good to know they love us.

Glad to hear your up and about. Best wishes on the bike.
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It pulls to the left now so you avoid the cliff face next time you go too fast into that corner.

All the best, good to hear you have been back in the saddle.
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Yup. And now I'll be painting it again.
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