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Hello all! I just got my motorcycle license and am looking to go a bit quicker than my 2020 Primavera 50. The used market near me includes a 2013 GTS 300 with ~800 miles and a 2017 Primavera 150 with 4,000 miles. Both in great shape, both $4k. I’m looking for something to run around the city in and take on the occasional backroad trip to the burbs (with my partner on the back!).

All things equal, my impression is that the GTS is a lot more scooter. Though this example is low mileage, it is 8 years old and I’m worried about the age being a factor. Am I worried over nothing? Or, for my mostly-city usage, would the Prima actually be better? I am used the weight and love how nimble my 50cc is. Is one of these a better deal?

Would love to hear any thoughts- thanks in advance!
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if you want highway capable, or plan longer trips, get the GTS
around town the 150 will be fine and dandy. heck, you could even do some trans mods or knock on a 190 kit if you're feeling frisky.

either way, I'd try negotiating those prices down a fair amount. at 3~325 I'd be throwing cash, and 35 wouldn't be awful, for either. but more than that, wait for a better deal or buy new.
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If you’re hauling a passenger periodically I’d opt for the 300. If the bike has been properly garaged and halfway taken care of the age really shouldn’t be a factor.

If the 300 hasn’t been garaged and is looking a bit weathered it might be best to look elsewhere.

Take your time and don’t rush into it, there’s always another fish in the pond.
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Sounds like this is intended to be an in-town ride. I'd think the Prima would do that well while being lighter weight and somewhat quicker steering than the GTS. Now if you anticipate more riding in the countryside........
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Dooglas wrote:
Sounds like this is intended to be an in-town ride. I'd think the Prima would do that well while being lighter weight and somewhat quicker steering than the GTS. Now if you anticipate more riding in the countryside........
Indeed I probably spend my time doing 80% inner-city riding and 20% backroads- I do love how nimble my Primavera feels. It sounds like the GTS might feel more cumbersome when filtering (legal here, if inadvisable) and doing other tight city stuff.

Would a 150 do alright with a passenger up to around 50mph? (We weigh a combined ~250lbs) I have no interest in doing highways but I want to keep up on faster local parkways! Perhaps the 150 is enough; I’m always surprised how far our trusty 50 can take us.
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piaggibro wrote:
Would a 150 do alright with a passenger up to around 50mph? (We weigh a combined ~250lbs) I have no interest in doing highways but I want to keep up on faster local parkways! Perhaps the 150 is enough; I’m always surprised how far our trusty 50 can take us.
I am probably not the one to ask. I don't like riding two up regardless of the bike. My riding partner has her own scooter. Having said that, I don't doubt the larger size, greater weight, and additional power of the GTS makes it a better 2-up ride.
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I have an Elettrica, which has the same body and handling as a Primavera. I love it for riding around town.

I bought a GTS because I wanted to ride through the hill country near me, and needed more range and more scooter.

I thought I'd be using the Elettrica for in town, and the GTS for out of town. What I discovered is I ride the GTS everywhere. It is easy to get around in town, I like the acceleration when I need it, and I don't find it cumbersome at all.

Do I sometimes take the Elettrica when in town just because it feels lighter and more nimble? Yes, sometimes. But when I do, it is the quiet that I value the most.

Two minor notes: I find myself really enjoying the shopping bag hook and wider floorplate the GTS offers. It makes shopping that much easier. And the real high beam is a big help at night.

Bottom line: either scooter is great in town. The GTS is more flexible; it gives you more options.
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Buy the one with a well documented service history. I’d be a little wary of a 2013 GTS with that few miles… Has the owner been changing the engine oil every year? How about the coolant and brake fluid every two years? Why does it have so few miles? I’d want some assurances that the GTS’s previous owner hasn’t been driving the thing 100 miles per year for the past 8 years with the original fluids still in use. And I agree with greasy on the price… $3500 or less.
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