Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:59 pm

Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 229
Location: Reno
 
Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 229
Location: Reno
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:59 pm linkquote
Went for a ride 2up, stopped for lunch
The parking lot wasn't level

I swung through a spot, so I was facing out, as is my habit on 2 wheels
Locked the front, paddled back a few steps, pulled forward, locked the front, started paddling back, brushed the tilt lock switch

My brain thought I dropped it, hit the kill switch, stepped off on the low side, slapped my wife's boot off the seat onto the ground [she also was sure it had gone wrong]
Centered up the bike, locked the tilt
Never hit the ground, not a busted mirror or a bent lever
All was good, had a nice lunch


Lesson
Lock the front, turn off the key before attempting advanced parking maneuvers
My brain says don't park going up hill, as getting a big bike off a centerstand can be tough, MP3 says no problem rolling backwards 2up tilt locked
Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:38 pm

Molto Verboso
2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
Joined: 29 Jun 2016
Posts: 1554
Location: Toronto
 
Molto Verboso
2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
Joined: 29 Jun 2016
Posts: 1554
Location: Toronto
Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:38 pm linkquote
Garthhh wrote:
All was good, had a nice lunch
Happy to hear it ended this way!
Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:36 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2012 Honda NC700 DCT, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT
Joined: 02 Mar 2013
Posts: 6775
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2012 Honda NC700 DCT, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT
Joined: 02 Mar 2013
Posts: 6775
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:36 am linkquote
Garthhh wrote:
Lesson
Lock the front, turn off the key before attempting advanced parking maneuvers
My brain says don't park going up hill, as getting a big bike off a centerstand can be tough, MP3 says no problem rolling backwards 2up tilt locked
Glad it turned out well, but I have to disagree with you on this.
If you move the scooter anywhere with the wheels locked, and encounter a hole as shallow as an inch, you can tip over. Personally, any time I had a pillion, I'd never activate the tilt lock until I was parked where I wanted to be, or at least where the pillion was to dismount. If I wanted to move the scooter after the pillion dismounted, I'd do that. But I never move the scooter with a pillion, while the tilt lock is engaged. YMMV.
Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:27 pm

Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 229
Location: Reno
 
Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 229
Location: Reno
Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:27 pm linkquote
In my increasing decrepitude, I know going slow or stopped is when it goes wrong most often

I park on the front of 1 1/2 car long parking space, with an empty spot next to me
I roll backwards & do a Y turn at the start of every ride with or without pillion
Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:26 pm

Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
 
Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:26 pm linkquote
With any motorcycle I think the vast majority of "incidents" are drops at a semi-standstill. It certainly is the case for me. I did drop my MP3 like juat 3 days after buying it. the false legend about the 3 wheel stability suckered me. But zero damage happened. Phew.
Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:39 pm

Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
 
Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:39 pm linkquote
Madison Sully wrote:
Glad it turned out well, but I have to disagree with you on this.
If you move the scooter anywhere with the wheels locked, and encounter a hole as shallow as an inch, you can tip over.
I'll second that. Thats why i did the "mono" mod.
Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:38 am

Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 229
Location: Reno
 
Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 229
Location: Reno
Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:38 am linkquote
3legsofman wrote:
I'll second that. Thats why i did the "mono" mod.
Mono Mod?
Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:06 am

Addicted
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 570
Location: Belgium
 
Addicted
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 570
Location: Belgium
Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:06 am linkquote
Has this just become a audiophile forum?

I'm looking forward to learning about the Dolby and/or DTS mods then.
Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:24 am

Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
 
Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:24 am linkquote
Garthhh wrote:
Mono Mod?
Take a look at the thread "Tilt lock modification,or fix " by mono.
Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:27 am

Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
 
Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:27 am linkquote
No, i'll say it in stereo. No. See above.
sbaert wrote:
Has this just become a audiophile forum?

I'm looking forward to learning about the Dolby and/or DTS mods then.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:42 pm

Member
Piaggio MP3 300 HPE
Joined: 22 Aug 2020
Posts: 39
Location: Croydon
 
Member
Piaggio MP3 300 HPE
Joined: 22 Aug 2020
Posts: 39
Location: Croydon
Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:42 pm linkquote
Madison Sully wrote:
If you move the scooter anywhere with the wheels locked, and encounter a hole as shallow as an inch, you can tip over.
I had this today. At 6am, I was so excited at seeing an open petrol station with no queue that I did a slow u turn on a thankfully empty road. I was covering the front and rear brake and for some reason, I hit the front brake as I turned, which caused the bike to slow, and lean more. Realising something was wrong, I instinctively pressed the brake harder and the bike tipped. Luckily I was fine and a nice white van driver came out to help me pick up the bike. I then tried to wheel it into the petrol station but it was rather heavy, so I engaged tilt lock. Then I hit a hole in the road and it then tipped the other side. Serious rookie mistakes which I put down to the early morning!

Few scratches on the plastic and on the side of the handlebar grips but nothing serious.

So - if on the road, do not use tilt lock if you are wheeling it about.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:32 pm

Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
 
Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:32 pm linkquote
So i was out today on the fuoco and parked up to get petrol and also parked up looking at a honda dealers looking for a forza 750 to sit on.It still feels strange with the "mono" mod when parking and feeling the bike is no longer solidly held in position as the suspension is unlocked and will rock slightly , however when you are pushing the bike over a raised kerb ect it feels alot safer than it did as standard.I did however do something i normaly don't do except in the garage and that was to put it on the centre stand just in case.
imadequavers wrote:
I had this today. At 6am, I was so excited at seeing an open petrol station with no queue that I did a slow u turn on a thankfully empty road. I was covering the front and rear brake and for some reason, I hit the front brake as I turned, which caused the bike to slow, and lean more. Realising something was wrong, I instinctively pressed the brake harder and the bike tipped. Luckily I was fine and a nice white van driver came out to help me pick up the bike. I then tried to wheel it into the petrol station but it was rather heavy, so I engaged tilt lock. Then I hit a hole in the road and it then tipped the other side. Serious rookie mistakes which I put down to the early morning!

Few scratches on the plastic and on the side of the handlebar grips but nothing serious.

So - if on the road, do not use tilt lock if you are wheeling it about.
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:51 pm

Member
2016 Piaggio MP3 500ie
Joined: 17 Mar 2021
Posts: 22
Location: San Francisco
 
Member
2016 Piaggio MP3 500ie
Joined: 17 Mar 2021
Posts: 22
Location: San Francisco
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:51 pm linkquote
I dropped my bike early last week. I was going up a very steep grade in downtown San Francisco and at the top I had to turn left to a very steep grade going downhill. Problem was only I had to stop but cars were blocking my view so I crept over the crest and turn left but it was too much. If I had kept the momentum and not stopped I would of been all right.

So there I was with my bike laying in the middle of the road in an incline so I could even pick it up. Lucky for me two ladies happened to be watching my folly and helped me get it up.

Amazingly nothing broke nor did the paint get dinged. But my engine did redline for a few minutes because tipping it split some coolant and the angle made all of it leave the motor for a time. But soon it went back to normal.
Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:26 am

Member
Piaggio MP3 300 HPE
Joined: 22 Aug 2020
Posts: 39
Location: Croydon
 
Member
Piaggio MP3 300 HPE
Joined: 22 Aug 2020
Posts: 39
Location: Croydon
Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:26 am linkquote
3legsofman wrote:
... looking for a forza 750 to sit on.
Me too!
Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:10 pm

Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: 06 Oct 2020
Posts: 229
Location: Reno
 
Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
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Posts: 229
Location: Reno
Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:10 pm linkquote
A squared up indicator light would be handy
Weird to move when it's locked at an angle
There isn't much mechanical play in the front, when locked it rocks back n forth on the air in the tires, which aren't really very far apart for the amount of weight
Long & narrow only 3 wheels. as a piece of equipment on wheels to be pushed around it's made for flat & hard
I'm sure letting the suspension work while locked is an improvement...

Maneuvering at low speeds the wheels steer with less connection to lean, which can make it "feel wrong", causing me to lock up mentally just a bit, maybe take a dab or find my seat [reposition my body]
I don't brake while turning or going over bumps, the suspension works better, though I do ride around 2 fingers on the brakes most of the time

Perpendicular to earth light?
This would be good when locking the tilt on the road at a light
Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:56 pm

Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
 
Hooked
2008 fuoco
Joined: 19 Jul 2015
Posts: 400
Location: United Kingdom.
Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:56 pm linkquote
Got to sit on a brand new 750 forza this morning at the not to local Honda dealers. They were supposed to have a demo one but due to covid it never arrived.
imadequavers wrote:
Me too!
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