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One problem with earplugs is that they can be ineffective, even make the sound worse, when not properly seated.

I have had to stop many times when mine slipped or were inserted incorrectly.

The Push-Ins shown above make it much simpler to place in the ear canal, and they stay there throughout the ride

Bill
I pull the upper part of my ear lobe. It seems to straightened my ear cannal.
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Thank you to everyone who has answered my call for help.

After researching possible solutions and reading you comments, I am amazed that no has designed a workable solution for the Vespa. I realise there are "too many variables" to create a "one solution fits all", but there doesn't even appear to be sensible/proven suggestions from the manufacturers of add on products.

To keep this conversation alive (and hopefully help someone), here are some interesting ideas/solutions I have found.

1. This person found that by strapping a bag to the front of their motorbike it finally fixed the problem (you have to watch Part 1 of this series to hear the full story) ..
2. This company provides a "windscreen vent" to equalise the pressure in-front and behind the windscreen. I like this idea, it makes sense (I am considering cutting holes in my Vespa windscreen) .. https://rifle.com/Motorcycle-Windshields/Accessories/Air-Balance-Windshield-Vent-Kit.aspx
3. This person discusses various solutions that have worked for him (non Vespa) ..
4. Lots of people also talk about moving your windscreen forward or back (change the angle) to divert the airstream .. I am also going to try this (Not sure how to "bend" the Vespa windscreen bars, they are quite strong).

Hope this helps you.
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2. This company provides a "windscreen vent" to equalise the pressure in-front and behind the windscreen. I like this idea, it makes sense (I am considering cutting holes in my Vespa windscreen) .. https://rifle.com/Motorcycle-Windshields/Accessories/Air-Balance-Windshield-Vent-Kit.aspx
I did this with a (cut-down 1.5") Fabbri tall windscreen on my MP3 400. I drilled twelve 3/8" holes in the bottom of the screen. It worked perfectly.
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I did this with a (cut-down 1.5") Fabbri tall windscreen on my MP3 400. I drilled twelve 3/8" holes in the bottom of the screen. It worked perfectly.
Do you have a photo of that?
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... I drilled twelve 3/8" holes in the bottom of the screen. It worked perfectly.
You may find that having holes of the same size will create a whistle a certain speed.
Having holes of different sizes will mitigate against this.
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You may find that having holes of the same size will create a whistle a certain speed.

Then that could act as a kangaroo deterrent.
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Here is a slightly different idea to create air flow over the inside of the windscreen (without drilling holes) ..
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I use NoNoise Motorsport Earplugs https://nonoise-earplugs.us/products/motorsport-hearing-protection when riding above city speeds and I like them much.

As others have said: definitely less fatigue on longer rides with earplugs in. Initially there was a slight discomfort after hours of wear, but I guess my ears have gotten used to the plugs, as they feel more comfortable now.
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Another update. I have been enjoying the Airpod Pro earbuds under the helmet, but I came across these on a shooting site: Radians Custom Molded Earplugs. About $11 from Amazon, and they got good reviews. I put it in our cart and my wife ordered a kit for her, too. They arrived late yesterday, I mixed my set up and followed the directions...

https://captnjim.blogspot.com/2021/12/huh.html

I am impressed with how quiet and comfortable these are.

Here's the Amazon link...

https://www.amazon.com/Radians-Custom-Molded-Earplugs-Blue/dp/B003A28OW6/ref=sxts_rp_s_a1_0?crid=2N9ZF30ZK60P9&cv_ct_cx=radians+ear+plugs&keywords=radians+ear+plugs&pd_rd_i=B003A28OW6&pd_rd_r=43e8d97b-c19e-4fcd-a5be-ec2d5ba2be2b&pd_rd_w=CSI6U&pd_rd_wg=Ss2x5&pf_rd_p=417cc47b-0c09-4851-92d2-3088b503e056&pf_rd_r=81BSVSAJW3Z3AX4TMKKP&psc=1&qid=1640816881&sprefix=Radians%2Caps%2C157&sr=1-1-5985efba-8948-4f09-9122-d605505c9d1e
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Captain Jim wrote:
Another update. I have been enjoying the Airpod Pro earbuds under the helmet, but I came across these on a shooting site: Radians Custom Molded Earplugs. About $11 from Amazon, and they got good reviews. I put it in our cart and my wife ordered a kit for her, too. They arrived late yesterday, I mixed my set up and followed the directions...

https://captnjim.blogspot.com/2021/12/huh.html

I am impressed with how quiet and comfortable these are.

Here's the Amazon link...

https://www.amazon.com/Radians-Custom-Molded-Earplugs-Blue/dp/B003A28OW6/ref=sxts_rp_s_a1_0?crid=2N9ZF30ZK60P9&cv_ct_cx=radians+ear+plugs&keywords=radians+ear+plugs&pd_rd_i=B003A28OW6&pd_rd_r=43e8d97b-c19e-4fcd-a5be-ec2d5ba2be2b&pd_rd_w=CSI6U&pd_rd_wg=Ss2x5&pf_rd_p=417cc47b-0c09-4851-92d2-3088b503e056&pf_rd_r=81BSVSAJW3Z3AX4TMKKP&psc=1&qid=1640816881&sprefix=Radians%2Caps%2C157&sr=1-1-5985efba-8948-4f09-9122-d605505c9d1e
Thanks for the update Captain. I look forward to a comparison noise level ride report, especially at highway speeds. Thanks for the follow-thru!! Miguel
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Thanks for the update Captain. I look forward to a comparison noise level ride report, especially at highway speeds. Thanks for the follow-thru!! Miguel
Hi Miguel. I got out on my wife's Xmax today for a more thorough check out of the molded earplugs (Radians). It's a good test on her bike because her windshield is low for me, putting me into the wind coming over that shield. No buffeting with the Shuberth C3 Pro, but generally there is plenty of wind noise. I have no way of quantifying it, but the Radians are quieter than the Airpod Pro earbuds (my perception). At $11, it's hard to beat. Comfortable, too. The Airpod Pros are a better solution if you want to listen to music. I haven't had the opportunity to try the Radians with the helmet communicators, yet, as the Blonde isn't keen on riding opportunites around here.

Still, a good run on the bike today; plus, I always have fun riding her bike.

Hope 2022 is good for you and all the scooter folks here.

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Hi Miguel. I got out on my wife's Xmax today for a more thorough check out of the molded earplugs (Radians). It's a good test on her bike because her windshield is low for me, putting me into the wind coming over that shield. No buffeting with the Shuberth C3 Pro, but generally there is plenty of wind noise. I have no way of quantifying it, but the Radians are quieter than the Airpod Pro earbuds (my perception). At $11, it's hard to beat. Comfortable, too. The Airpod Pros are a better solution if you want to listen to music. I haven't had the opportunity to try the Radians with the helmet communicators, yet, as the Blonde isn't keen on riding opportunites around here.

Still, a good run on the bike today; plus, I always have fun riding her bike.

Hope 2022 is good for you and all the scooter folks here.

Jim
Thanks Jim. I'm going to give the Radian earplugs a shot. I don't ride listening to music so keeping a quieter cockpit is just what I'd like. My only problem with the AirPods is that they tend to wiggle out of my ears as I turn my head side-to-side which reduces the noise cancellation. I good seal is essential. I'll let you know what I think of the Radians.

Thanks for the follow up! Miguel
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A study by a helmet manufacturer, showed that the majority of perceived wind noise comes from the open bottom end of the helmet, which is why some previous posters had luck reducing noise by closing that area up with scarves and so forth. I would guess that a custom cut, foam insert would do a better job yet, but I can't speak for comfort or head movement.

https://www.rideapart.com/reviews/428869/motorcycle-helmet-sound-protection/

I find that riding at highway speeds is substantially quieter when I'm wearing a half pot, than with a full visor helmet. Whoever designed the ear did a good job of it.
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