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Molto Verboso
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It was a long time ago on one of my long gone bikes.

Iirc, it was either a Honda Pan European or a BMW K100.

Not sure why that is important.
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sbaert wrote:
I tried 2 tires during my shortlived darksiding experiment days. One was a Yokohama, and the other a Kumho.

I did not fit the tire to the rim as I do not have mounting equipment.

All I did was remove and reinstall the wheel from the bike and take it to the tire shop. Then drove the bike. Gave each tire about 4-5 weeks but ultimately went back to a MC tire.

Anyway, tried but it is not my bag. Sorry if that doesn't jive with the darkside fanboys but that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes.

I do have 2 sets of Metzelers sitting in the basement which I am looking forward to test on the MP3 in the nearby future.

Question: If darksiding is the cool mod to do, why has nobody ever done it to a front tire? Yes, it's a trick question.
You seem defensive. No need to be. No one is trying to talk you into anything. You don't care for a car tire on your bike. Nothing wrong with that. Also nothing wrong with running car tires either if it works for you.

Yes there are some who run car tires on the front and rear. Here is a link to a discussion we had about it in 2012 where a member tried it on an MP3. rexkaru, after making modifications, did his fronts first then he did his rear. He gives pretty good information on his experience as the thread goes on. Has anyone darksided their front tires for the 400's ?

Technically it is not called double darkside. Double darkside is when one runs a car tire on the rear and a mc rear tire on the front but reversed to account for the braking forces on the front.

Personally, I would not do either only because I don't want to have to remove the front fenders and front tires last a long time and are a snap to change so I don't see a big benefit there. Here are some pics of his.
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Molto Verboso
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Please don't misunderstand. I am not being defensive in any way.

Just seems like the thread is the taking the dreaded "oil thread" turn.

At least that is the way I see it, as there are people who insist on using car engine oil in a motorcycle for whatever odd reason or worse yet the "all oil is the same" argument. In which case, why not use vegetable oil or olive oil? It's oil, it's slippery, it lubricates . . . right? Facepalm emoticon

Bottom line, every product has its intended specific application.
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Bottom lines will vary. Viagra was originally being tested as a cardiovascular drug for its ability to lower blood pressure but it was a side effect that it was eventually approved for. Laughing emoticon
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PS: my gf's dog and my cat kinda sleeping together (she has 2 dogs that visit and they are totally zen together and sleep, except when my cat decides to play attack them (he's just 16 months, so still playful). 😛

(in reference to an earlier post)

I didn't mean this post to turn into a pro vs con DarkSide thing. My situation is resolved with a perfectly good motorcycle tire. Simple as that.
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Jah wrote:
What's wrong with Heidenau K66?
Well i i use all of the tyre and with the hedenau the rear-end wants to overtake the front Razz emoticon
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Maksor wrote:
Well i i use all of the tyre and with the hedenau the rear-end wants to overtake the front Razz emoticon
Several people swear by them though. The profile looks optimized to wet cold cities in Northern Europe to me. But I have never designed a tire. Betcha most of it is down to compound, not looks.
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stickyfrog wrote:
Personally, I would not do either only because I don't want to have to remove the front fenders and front tires last a long time and are a snap to change so I don't see a big benefit there. Here are some pics of his.
If u remove the front fenders it means all sorts of hazardous, damaging gunk can get to the bearings that seem to be the Achilles heel of the MP 500. That seems a complete and total no-no. Never mind the dynamics - which i can't comment about.
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PabloLie wrote:
If u remove the front fenders it means all sorts of hazardous, damaging gunk can get to the bearings that seem to be the Achilles heel of the MP 500. That seems a complete and total no-no. Never mind the dynamics - which i can't comment about.
Part of the reason I won't do it on an MP3. What dynamics are you referring to?
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Dark side update for 12" tires - I found some of the brands mentioned in previous posts to be unavailable now in US. I just found a Vitour German 007 for my 250 at an online tire place in SoCal, less than 60 bucks including freight to NC. So far it rides great, mounting was easy. Size is 145-70-R12, no clearance issues. I wore out a CityGrip in 3000 miles, they just don't last on the 250.
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Well, the new rear Mich CG2 gave out at 9.3k miles. So wasn't a fluke. Are there tire brands that last longer? I can live with 4k miles a tire, but it gets a bit old.
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Try Metzeler. Going into 2nd winter using the same tire.
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sbaert wrote:
Try Metzeler. Going into 2nd winter using the same tire.
but how many kms/mile is that?
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Molto Verboso
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More than 10K km on the Metzelers so far, but then again I seem to be the only person on this forum that gets about 20K Km out of the Michelins.

And I am still on my factory installed brake pads after 40K. Ditto on the rollers.

Call me Captain Slow I guess.
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