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Hey folks,

So I started riding a couple years ago on a GTS 300. Rode it for about a year, and really enjoyed it. After that, I bought a motorcycle because I wanted to learn to ride with a manual transmission. A few months after getting the motorcycle, I sold the Vespa because I was focused on getting good at using a clutch + shifting and just wasn't riding it much anymore.

Several months ago, I started thinking about getting a new bike — either trading in my current one or getting a second one. I thought long and hard about what to get, doing copious amounts of research, comparisons, pros/cons lists, etc. At a certain point, I realized I missed the convenience of the Vespa — the storage, the ease of use, the excellent local mechanic, etc. My motorcycle is a lot of fun but, for a variety of reasons, the ownership experience is a lot more cumbersome than the Vespa's.

So, I went to the Vespa dealership to take a look at the GTS 300 again. Dealership doesn't allow test rides, but I remembered what a great time I had with it originally and sitting on it brought back all those good feelings + memories. After several more days of careful evaluation, I decided I was going to get another GTS (in addition to my motorcycle), put down a deposit, and waited a month for the color I wanted to arrive.

Well, today I got it, annnd…I feel terrible. Riding it home, the GTS felt so soulless compared to my motorcycle and I missed so many things about the motorcycle experience — the sound, revving the engine, using a clutch, shifting gears, the bigger wheels, the gas tank between my legs, the stability, etc. etc. The GTS, meanwhile, felt so…tame, so quiet. I felt like I was just sitting there doing nothing. I felt so small in traffic, so much less planted and visible. None of the other folks on two wheels I encountered acknowledged me like when I'm on my motorcycle. I also felt like I was inadvertently speeding a lot of the time, and just generally a lot less patient in traffic.

But most of all, I felt like I had made a very big, very expensive mistake. When I got home, I took my motorcycle out for a ride and it was just so much better of an experience.

Now, I know there are things I could've done differently — I could've bought used, I could've found a way to rent a Vespa for a day, etc. etc. But, at the same time, I put so much time, effort, energy, thought, calculation, emotion into the purchase, doing my best to make sure this was what I wanted using the tools at my disposal. I saved up the money for months. I took the NIU scooters that are part of the local scooter-share program here out for a ride several times. I watched so many videos, read so many articles, went through all the things I had from my past ownership experience, made comparisons, listed pros + cons, talked with other folks, etc. etc.

I thought that I would get the Vespa and have it be a relaxing little bike that would be a nice, occasional change of pace from my motorcycle, something I could also use if I needed to carry some things with me somewhere, something peaceful, etc.

And yet…here I am feeling defeated, wanting to just sell this brand new bike with like 12 miles on it to someone who truly wants it and get at least some of my money back.

Sigh…
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One of our locals will be along shortly to take it off your hands for a ridiculously low price.

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Well, IMO you should give it time. I totally understand where you are coming from with the level of interactivity in the ride, having juggled a cvt modern and my shifty vintage scoots for years (and just generally preferring manual vehicles). But in the end they fit different moments in your life better than each other.

You post about a smooth, relaxing, change of pace from your motorcycle... I fail to see how won't offer exactly that.

And when you want to go shopping and actually have a place to put the stuff you bought on the bike, or battle city streets in the least stressful way because you just aren't in the mood for riding the clutch, or some $!#@ is acting up with the big thumper you'll hop on the GTS and remember exactly why you bought it.

You aren't getting that money back (although I suppose selling it tomorrow is better than in a year), so I'd have a little patience and get reacquainted with it. I'm pretty sure you'll rediscover multiple niches in your day for it over the MC
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For clarification, what is your question? :?
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I have both, I love both, I just love the Vespa a little more.

PS. Welcome to MV. Post pics so we can all oooo and ahhh. Maybe it will make you feel better about your newest stable member.
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So I started riding a couple years ago on a GTS 300. Rode it for about a year, and really enjoyed it.
So you had years worth of Vespa experience, then bought a motorcycle, then returned to a Vespa and are now dissatisfied? Well sorry for you but you rode a Vespa for a year. Did you forget? Completely baffled by this post.
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Big_Boys_Mother wrote:
For clarification, what is your question? :?
Or point.
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OP won't be back. Just needed to vent about a mistake.
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Hey folks,

So I started riding a couple years ago on a GTS 300. Rode it for about a year, and really enjoyed it. After that, I bought a motorcycle because I wanted to learn to ride with a manual transmission. A few months after getting the motorcycle, I sold the Vespa because I was focused on getting good at using a clutch + shifting and just wasn't riding it much anymore.

Several months ago, I started thinking about getting a new bike — either trading in my current one or getting a second one. I thought long and hard about what to get, doing copious amounts of research, comparisons, pros/cons lists, etc. At a certain point, I realized I missed the convenience of the Vespa — the storage, the ease of use, the excellent local mechanic, etc. My motorcycle is a lot of fun but, for a variety of reasons, the ownership experience is a lot more cumbersome than the Vespa's.

So, I went to the Vespa dealership to take a look at the GTS 300 again. Dealership doesn't allow test rides, but I remembered what a great time I had with it originally and sitting on it brought back all those good feelings + memories. After several more days of careful evaluation, I decided I was going to get another GTS (in addition to my motorcycle), put down a deposit, and waited a month for the color I wanted to arrive.

Well, today I got it, annnd…I feel terrible. Riding it home, the GTS felt so soulless compared to my motorcycle and I missed so many things about the motorcycle experience — the sound, revving the engine, using a clutch, shifting gears, the bigger wheels, the gas tank between my legs, the stability, etc. etc. The GTS, meanwhile, felt so…tame, so quiet. I felt like I was just sitting there doing nothing. I felt so small in traffic, so much less planted and visible. None of the other folks on two wheels I encountered acknowledged me like when I'm on my motorcycle. I also felt like I was inadvertently speeding a lot of the time, and just generally a lot less patient in traffic.

But most of all, I felt like I had made a very big, very expensive mistake. When I got home, I took my motorcycle out for a ride and it was just so much better of an experience.

Now, I know there are things I could've done differently — I could've bought used, I could've found a way to rent a Vespa for a day, etc. etc. But, at the same time, I put so much time, effort, energy, thought, calculation, emotion into the purchase, doing my best to make sure this was what I wanted using the tools at my disposal. I saved up the money for months. I took the NIU scooters that are part of the local scooter-share program here out for a ride several times. I watched so many videos, read so many articles, went through all the things I had from my past ownership experience, made comparisons, listed pros + cons, talked with other folks, etc. etc.

I thought that I would get the Vespa and have it be a relaxing little bike that would be a nice, occasional change of pace from my motorcycle, something I could also use if I needed to carry some things with me somewhere, something peaceful, etc.

And yet…here I am feeling defeated, wanting to just sell this brand new bike with like 12 miles on it to someone who truly wants it and get at least some of my money back.

Sigh…
Never read so many funny contradictions in a single post..

But the best part was this one:
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None of the other folks on two wheels I encountered acknowledged me like when I'm on my motorcycle.
"Dear Dolly, the world is ignoring me and I don't know what to do!?!?"

Nonetheless, I'm going to ask you a question..

You never mentioned what the "other bike" you bought, is it..

I got the feeling that I'm going to be disappointed again.. Laughing emoticon
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A 150 might be complimentary to a "real motorcycle". Possibly pink. With tassels.
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Like others have said, just give it some time. I was sick of my clunky old diesel, manual, 4x4 pickup so sold it and bought a new Forester. Everything I hated about my old truck I ended up really missing. The Forester felt so bland that I almost felt like a passenger and missed the driving 'experience'. Now after a few months I love the comfort and convenience of the new car. It's just a bit of a shock to the system to get over. And you're not the first or last to experience seller's remorse. I have with every bike I ever sold.
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A 150 might be complimentary to a "real motorcycle". Possibly pink. With tassels.
He could be a very clever salesman... I hope he replies with an asking price, and everything will start to make sense... Laughing emoticon
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I bought a brand new 2022 GTS with -3463 miles off it for 3500 pesos five years ago. In light of the higher mileage and it being a year older, I'll give you 18 pesos and a van you can either live in or get running and make some real money.
You didn't put your location in your profile, but from the size of your whinge, I figure you're from New Zealand. 18 pesos is enough to get a Kiwi at least eight feet (two meters and a shilling) closer to a better place, by which I mean Australia. And the van is mostly bondo and primer, so you can paint it any color you want, and huff whatever's left in the cans when you're done.
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Seems like we are just hearing an exaggerated case of buyers remorse. The OP has recently owned and ridden a GTS for about a year so he knew exactly what he was getting into. The problem isn't that the vehicle wasn't what he expected. He has changed his mind or simply regrets spending the money. If I were him I'd sit on this for a while and see if it still looks the same.
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I have rarely replaced one PTW for another without later regretting not still having it, and turning that regret into remorse for buying the new one!

The trick is to add to your collection. Especially in your case where you're comparing two totally different types of machine.

Oh, and about being acknowledged by motorcycle riders.. the one's that ignore you are asshats (and probably unvaccinated).
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The projection of unsatisfied needs cannot fall on an inanimate object, it is not the "means through which" but only the pivot of rotation. If considered as such it will remain in your life doing this whenever you need it, without being the point of release.
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Eh, this's why I have 5 motorcycles AND a Vespa

Having been a teenager during the late '90s-early 2000's "scooter boom" here in Italy, I've been cursed - the tiny, 50cc 2 stroke scooter was what allowed you to expand your world, the perfect weapon of choice to go around with your girl, picking her up after school and bringing her back home, going around with your friends, going to the beach, drifting in the snow, doing wheelie races, modifying it etc etc.... Scooters rock!
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There is no point trying to compare them. Enjoy them both for what they are. I have a motorcycle, GTS and a shifty Vespa for this very reason. They are all completely different rides.

If you are worried about getting acknowledgement from other riders you need to take a good hard look at yourself in the mirror
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Welcome to the site. You really cannot make any sort of decision about your future with the new GTS in just 12 miles! Personally, I think you need to take a step back and think hard about re-learning the Vespa experience. And certainly don't worry about not 'being acknowledged' by motorcycle riders. If that bothers you there is something wrong with your mental approach to life. That said, I nearly always get acknowledgement from other bike riders of any type of machine over here when on my GTS but that's not why I ride.
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Everyone already said everything. But yeah. The salute from other riders comes and goes. I get it from most riders in the area no matter what I ride. I have to admit when it's reciprocated by the graybeards on their full dressers when I'm on the Aprilia 50 it does feel good.

Ride the cycle when you feel like that and the Vespa when you don't. I'm going back and forth between the Aprilia and the Stella depending on how I feel that day and they both make me smile. Differently.
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... at least you have a Vespa, I have an anonymous plastic object ...
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Others have touched on the various reasons that indicate buyers remorse.

Why did no one wave back? Probably because you were acting so disappointed it was reflected in your wave.

I have had riders wave back to me when I was on a scooter, a 50cc motorcycle, my lawn tractor and a mountain bike and, of course, my numerous bikes over the years. You sit up straight and think, "Wave back MF" and point your hand downward and the wave back comes.

Suck it up. A scooter is cool.
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This is a case of the grass always being greener. Does this same "buyer's remorse" show up in other areas of your life? It's not the scooter's fault it's a scooter. Maybe what you want/miss is the thrill of something new (the original scooter, maybe your first??) and you'll never have it again. You can endlessly chase that high or accept you'll not have it in that realm again. Up to you, but try and learn how to be happy.
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e.

I have had riders wave back to me when I was on a scooter, a 50cc motorcycle, my lawn tractor.....
Laughing emoticon Laughing emoticon

Now that's attitude!
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maybe he can return it? in florida any retail sale CAN be returned within a 72 hour period. its florida law. your location may vary..
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I have had riders wave back to me when I was on a my lawn tractor.
Me too!
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I hope you expected these grumpy responses to your post😊
You're telling the Faithful that, for many, a motorcycle is more satisfying to ride than is their expensive designer twist and go.

It is.
Probably best to.post this on your bike's forum....
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I can kind of relate to this, but I never buy new, so if something does not work out, I just sell. Motorcycles are more engaging, so is driving a car with a manual shift. The up side of scooter is while somewhat less engaging, your mind is free to concentrate on other things, rather than what gear you in, where the engine revs are, etc.... A much more relaxing (or taxing) ride. I own both, and enjoy both.
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Re above, motorcycles are more engaging: True there is more to do and way more decisions to make, especially if you have a liter bike or more. I take in way more scenery on the Vespa which is a bad safety move but that's just the way I am wired and I'm sub 45mph anyways.

If the OP is using the thing for a toy then I wish to hear no more speak of financial troubles. Toys aren't supposed to be great financial decisions. If it is for more of a utilitarian purpose, say commuting to work or running errands in a busy city, then the utility of the vespa will win out!
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I hope you expected these grumpy responses to your post😊
You're telling the Faithful that, for many, a motorcycle is more satisfying to ride than is their expensive designer twist and go.

It is.
Probably best to.post this on your bike's forum....
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Amen!
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I have no desire to go back to a heavy motorcycle that cooks me with engine heat at every traffic light. But I do miss the fun of my twisty shift P200. In time I will add a classic Vespa P series to my garage, along side my daily rider GTS300hpe. The GTS is perfect for longer rides and the state highways. The P200 I had was fun for shorter trips and curvy/scenic roads, but not so much as a commuter to work where being late do to vehicle issues gets you in trouble with the attendance policy. If you have the $$ to afford both, enjoy both. The Vespa will be great for local chores like shopping/grocery. For long trips, take your MC. The lack of acknowledgement from other motorcycles when on the GTS is just how it is in the USA. I seldom get the 2 fingers down wave unless I wave first. For myself, personally, I prefer the quiet power of my GTS over a noisy motorcycle. But thats just me. Mike
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LX190 Friday afternoon special, [s]Primavera[/s], S50, too many pushbikes
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LX190 Friday afternoon special, [s]Primavera[/s], S50, too many pushbikes
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jerryd wrote:
maybe he can return it? in florida any retail sale CAN be returned within a 72 hour period. its florida law. your location may vary..
Really? I can have a new bike/TV/underwear every three days?
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Addicted
GTS 300 SS BB
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GTS 300 SS BB
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znomit wrote:
Really? I can have a new bike/TV/underwear every three days?
ROFL emoticon

Come on man, we have the 7 days cooling-off period here in Australia, but you gave me an idea about the Chinese three pair of cheap underwear with skid marks..

That's a $40 a month saving alone in washing... ROFL emoticon
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Ossessionato
2017 BMW R1200GS and 2010 Vespa GTS 250 (shared)
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2017 BMW R1200GS and 2010 Vespa GTS 250 (shared)
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mrob wrote:
OP won't be back. Just needed to vent about a mistake.
Looks like you called that one correctly. Good Job!!
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OldSchooot wrote:
I hope you expected these grumpy responses to your post😊
You're telling the Faithful that, for many, a motorcycle is more satisfying to ride than is their expensive designer twist and go.

It is.
Probably best to.post this on your bike's forum....
O.S.
I don't think you read the OP properly or taken enough time to read between the lines..

I didn't see any grumpy responses here and if you too, really believe that a Vespa is less satisfying than a larger faster motorcycle, perhaps you are using the wrong tool for the job.

Maybe you should spend a week in Roma or Milano and learn what a Vespa can do in traffic, while the 250kg + motorcycles, all get stuck behind...

Comparing a Vespa to a larger cc open wheels motorcycle, is as silly as the first post in this thread.

Vespa has evolved to a 300cc engine to give their consumer even a bit more power for those mid range trips out of the city..

Then again if you google "around the world on a Vespa" you will find people out there that do enjoy riding "slower" on a Vespa. (Giorgio Bettinelli comes to mind (books))

Finally, I can't think of any other two wheel system of transportation in history, that has successfully attracted more women to try and ride two wheels..

Not my cup of tea, but if money is not an issue, you can also have a fast Vespa...

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