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7 or 8 scoots that I can think of... and they all either had no drip tray, the drip tray was broken, or I broke the damn drip tray trying to remove it...

Yesterday the clouds parted and angels sang (choral version of Bring it on Home by Sam Cooke ICUWW) as I successfully removed a drip tray from the white P.

It's the small things sometimes.

Carry on...
A plastic miracle.
A plastic miracle.
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Ha, yep know the feeling. But don't celebrate too soon ... you still need to put it back in.
Ancient drip tray repair attempt = utter failure
Ancient drip tray repair attempt = utter failure
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...don't celebrate too soon ... you still need to put it back in.
LOLZ!
:-/

Damn it!
*kicks dirt*
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Ha, yep know the feeling. But don't celebrate too soon ... you still need to put it back in.
Or he could just mount it on a plaque and hang it on the wall.
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Yes, getting it out is easy (relatively) it's putting it back that's a bitch... especially if you've run any extra wires or cables through the tunnel. My drip tray is in a box marked Future Projects... I expect it will be there for a long time.
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I broke 2 or 3 before I started heating them up first with a heat gun set on low. Since then, no problems.
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Tierney wrote:
I broke 2 or 3 before I started heating them up first with a heat gun set on low. Since then, no problems.
Thanks for this Top Tip - I'll be using it shortly!
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I usually lube up the drip tray with blood from my knuckles, then it slips right back into place.
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I usually lube up the drip tray with blood from my knuckles, then it slips right back into place.
ROFL emoticon
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The drip tray is actually useless; If there is a leak, oil or gas, it's going to flow down on the floor board anyway.
Usually, there is some 2T oil on it from the oil tank tap or upper coupling collar. So, over the past several years, whenever the tank comes off for a fuel line replacement, I stuff a folded absorbent pad at the bottom of the tunnel, under the drip tray.
Every time I do this, the pad is soaked.
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I usually lube up the drip tray with blood from my knuckles, then it slips right back into place.

..add some tears of frustration and it'll be like butter getting it back in.
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It is amazing that these can still be found original and not cracked or broken. I have three original ones held together with epoxy. The one I have that is nos and unbroken has never been installed. I think that's why it's not broken yet.
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Do replace it/fit the tray back in. On some Vespa large frames, if it is missing, it will do something weird to the air intake, it's more than just a drip tray/wire access cover- I think extra air gets in the frame cavity as you go along at speed and there's too much air/pressure, if that makes sense. The carb gets its air from inside the fame cavity via the rubber bellows. On my PX 177cc, I always got an annoying flat spot when dropping off the throttle in 4th then throttling up. Took me years to figure it out, it was some posts on these forums that mentioned it as a possibility. Some folks says its nonsense, and I guess it may only effect a few Vespas but on both my PX and older Sprint the trays were missing. Both had the flat spot issue (but not so bad on the older Sprint which has a PX200 engine), both fixed now. The one I ordered for the Sprint was a sod to fit, but with a bit of sanding and grease down the edges it went in, eventually.

https://modernvespa.com/forum/post938890#938890

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I ought to scan one and pump a bunch out.

Little did my boss know, I'd be using this thing solely for "business" ROFL emoticon
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the original ones fit well and tend not to crack (in my experience) but the new replacements suck.

Be sure not to clean up the blood, just make it an offering
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Congrats on your success, Birdsnest!! It succked bigtime, yes?

I have met the enemy and his/her name is Stupid Plastic Drip-Tray

Had no idea it was also ridiculously difficult for the experienced.... thot it was just me.

My takeaways: Squish SIDEWAYS, not front/back to remove. Swear as LOUD as humanly possible to re-fit (even if you're a lady most times) and hope your neighbors don't think you're beating your children in the garage..... That's all I got

(Yeah, yeah, blood, sweat, tears, knuckle skin, fingernails, etc. Worst job ever. Except circlip on choke....Congrats again!)
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Whut gloves...?
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I don't know why reaching into the tunnel is like wrestling a crocodile. Your glove looks better than mine last time I had to run cables out back. My P had a light oil tank leak. So there was also a heavy layer of nasty gunk in there
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Be sure not to clean up the blood, just make it an offering
Duh. I mean, the dripping blood is what the trays are there to catch, after all!
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I always get the original (Piaggio) since it's cheap (I get them for 5€) and of the best quality. It was redesigned so it fits old and new frames. Loom "pocket" has moved to the back so installation it's much cleaner and throttle cable doesn't interfere…
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I didn't know it needed one Laughing emoticon

Add that to the next shopping list...
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I don't understand what this fuss is all about. I removed and replaced my original one many times, and it is very easy to do so. Working it around the cables and cowl latches to get it into position has never been a problem, since it is quite flexible

And, a couple of times, I have forgotten to put back in while reinstalling the tank/oil tank assembly, and the motor has continued to perform exactly the same throughout the rev range.
What am I missing here?
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What am I missing here?
On older scoots the tray is usually brittle, warped and/or fused in place from years of gas gunk and grime, making it hard to remove. And the new trays sold by most shops tend to be generic "one size fits all" for P Series and Stellas and don't quite fit earlier models.
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SoCalGuy wrote:
On older scoots the tray is usually brittle, warped and/or fused in place from years of gas gunk and grime, making it hard to remove. And the new trays sold by most shops tend to be generic "one size fits all" for P Series and Stellas and don't quite fit earlier models.
But...it is designated as a Grade A first class repair.
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