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Deeply appreciating this path.
Shop looking fantastic.
All those work arounds you have developed - now = 2x the depth with the additional tools.
That lathe must have been a bear to lift!
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All those work arounds you have developed - now = 2x the depth with the additional tools.
That lathe must have been a bear to lift!
yeah how did you manage that??
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yeah how did you manage that??
Honestly, I'm not even sure. I had the milling attachment and tailstock off. I do remember thinking that something might pop…

But I had to get it on the bench or couldn't park my Vespa in the shed!

If I have to move it again (like to replace the saggy nuts bench) I won't be doing it by myself that's for sure.

Unless I could rig some block and tackle rig to the ceiling…. I mean, what could go wrong?

What I really need is a proper shop with a level concrete floor. That ain't happening in the foreseeable. Unless of course the whole shed were to collapse - say, from the weight of a lathe hanging from the ceiling or something.
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now use the lathe and the new drill press to make some parts to correct the accuracy of the old drill press
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now use the lathe and the new drill press to make some parts to correct the accuracy of the old drill press
It was only shite because I separated the column from the base to raise the workable size. Plus the crappy bench. But something vibrating from the motor and it heating up means I would likely have to replace the motor. Not worth it. Someone can use this for small jobs.. I need the space!
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Couriers are like Santa Claus atm! Our lifeline to joy during lockdown. Hadn't realized just how many businesses are running 'essential services' thanks to them… guessing they are keeping a decent chunk of our economy afloat. And blown away by how efficient they are with stuff arriving way sooner than expected!? No other traffic on the road? Recruited people who can't work otherwise? Who knows - but I like it.

Turns out replacement motors, milling chucks and not sure what is in the other box are 'essential items'. Well I think so…
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The drill press didn't have the crank handle for raising the work table… using vice grips (like the last guy did too given the marked up shaft) was getting annoying.

Fortunately the shaft is 12mm. And 12mm I can do. Heaps of quadcopter clamps that I used for my mirror/indicator setup. Only needed two but some came in packs.
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I love clamps. They hold so well.

I wish MMW had made their switch housing master cylinder mod clamp on rather than shitty little grub screws.
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I'm diggin' the handle.

No chance the quadcopter clamps could be ground down enough to fit inside the bar, I'm assuming, since you didn't do it?
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I'm diggin' the handle.

No chance the quadcopter clamps could be ground down enough to fit inside the bar, I'm assuming, since you didn't do it?
Nah - they are pretty slim line already. And need to be able to clamp them to something - be really tricky to try and work with them inside anything so small. Also - they meant I could mount the bar on an angle so the handle clears the work table. I know it looks awkward - but it's solid AF. Way better than a pair of vice grips. And all made with scraps and leftovers!
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If I could've found a replacement or purpose built version I would've spent on it. Friggen hard to search for any specific sort of "handle". Overwhelmed with bicycle options! She's pretty rough already. The galv square bar had most of the galv knocked off with a grinder. Grease all over the wood cupboard handle before I could think to paint it. Grime will preserve the wood anyway. Sick of cutting everything with my hacksaw… want one of those portable band saws. Should have enough space in the shed… somewhere…
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Just do what I do and use your angle grinder. Cutoff wheels are cheap.
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True that. And some people are crazy ninja with what they can cut with one. Just crazy loud and throw nasty grit.
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So… reckon I have a +/- of <0.1mm. Hoping that is accurate enough for a flywheel.

Can't get a 130mm face mounting 4-jaw chuck which would've brought that right down.
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Still trying to finalise my plan to mount the starter ring gear. Struggling with the concept of using M2 bolts. There would be 12 of them… but they are so tiny.

But I just can't see an M3 going through 5mm…

I have another idea but have to mull it over some more.
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Chasing concentricity… need a 4-jaw chuck in action. The lathe came with one but like everything needs a deep clean. And a way to mount it - doesn't have a proper backplate. And of course… no chuck key. Might as well start there. Had an old fence latch the right size.
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Needs a handle. Now it is 12mm so I could just clamp something on. But for CM
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Used the tail stock for the first time. Cut a centering hole in the back of my tap chuck.
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Rigged the press to keep the tap aligned. Turned out to be crazy hard steel to tap.
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Replaced the tired motor on the lathe… learned a bunch about single phase motors.
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Slapped the new one on. Needs a bit of spacing to get the belt position and tension right. But omg it runs sooooo much better already!

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'Pheas - I don't even know where to start.
So much good stuff in there.
A jewelers touch on the square end of the chuck - by hand.
The use of the press to align the tap.
What ever forum you used to learn about the motor wiring!
The four jaw chuck resurrection.
And then that brilliant lockdown inspired bit of scotch brite. That thing looks AWESOME!

One trick Logan used - was to put the motor on rubber isolators - and its own stand - so that the vibration did not affect the lathe. Not sure how you would do it - but the concept worked pretty well.

Could you also use a permanent lock tight on the ring along with the screws? The sheer is what you have to watch out for - but if it can't move - there is no sheer...

Looking good.
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Ha - just some google searches and a few YouTube vids. One diagram in particular made the whole thing come together (attached). Couldn't find anything practical on wiring DPDT switches to reverse it but just slowly pieced it together. Didn't help the new motor wasn't even quite wired how the manual stated. And much of the manual was lost in translation… And couldn't test the connections because everything is in continuity via the windings (once connected).

I have a proper 'lathe' reversing switch en route from AliExpress and will upgrade the wiring when it arrives. Recycling the old stuff only cause I don't have anything better lying around.
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One trick Logan used - was to put the motor on rubber isolators - and its own stand - so that the vibration did not affect the lathe. Not sure how you would do it - but the concept worked pretty well.
The old motor vibrated so much more than this one just slapped on so wining there already. Have to space it so will try the rubber thing.

The way my lathe gets belt tension is all from the weight of the motor - it's on an arm. Currently bottomed out and the belts are still loose - so spacing the motor should tighten that up. Needs to move a touch out to perfectly line the belts up too.
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Could you also use a permanent lock tight on the ring along with the screws? The sheer is what you have to watch out for - but if it can't move - there is no sheer...
Do you mean the pulley on the motor? The fitment is lose - guessing worn or oversized for the old motor. It was only pressed on before - held by and oversized key. But there is a key in a key way so shouldn't sheer. The single threaded grub to hold it on was stripped - but some coarse thread all-thread actually held. I am thinking of putting a shim in to make it tighter (and hopefully more aligned) - just don't have any shim stock thin enough. Was wondering about JB welding it on… Perhaps I should give up on that pulley and buy a new one tho.

The new motor is sooooooo much more powerful. And quiet. Guessing the old one was very tired. It couldn't even turn the lathe on higher speed settings. I accidentally put the belts on a setting that isn't actually listed on the lathe - much higher than intended rpm. Omg it spun up so fast to an insane speed - glad I had my hand on the switch to kill it quickly.

Might even be able to get a finish half as nice as yours now! Speeds and feeds. Well… hopefully can get the speed right now.
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Lookin good.
Much the same stuff I am digging into.
Since the motor basically rests on the pull, any out of roundness - like it not fitting the shaft on center - will create wobble.
I would think a new puly with proper fit - or boring out this fully and sleeving it back down to size - would be worth it.

BTW - The base that the Logan motor sat on - pivoted on an axle basically. The main chassis of the lathe is what it was connected to. The rubber bushings is what the axle ran through to isolate the base from the lathe chassis. Trust that makes sense.
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I messed around with the mounting. Tried some rubber spacers - seemed to work but couldn't then clamp down the motor in the right alignment. Need to be exact on drilling the mounting holes and really hard to confer where they should be. Also running out of hardware - especially bolts long enough to put spacers on.

I flat mounted it so I could get the angle just right and snug it down hard. Belt tension seems good now. Cleaned them all and the pulleys.

This is it running at top speed. Guessing ~1400rpm (should be 1:1 with the motor I think).

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And shimmed the pulley with the only thing I could find. Just belted it into the end as far as it would go - bit rough but will do for now.
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