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Here is the SIP setup. I had to do some fanangling to get the timing wheel to fit to the timing wheel holder, and just velcro'd the unit to the timing wheel. Why SIP doesn't sell it all as a kit is quite frankly, lame.

I'm still in shock I was that far off using a wire and just the wheel.

Oh, and I also got an adjustable piston stop. Makes finding TDC a little easier.

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Sweet timing setup
The adjustable Piston stop I'm using...
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This is why I use a timing light with adjustable degrees, once I mark TDC, don't need anything else. Mine was so far off the first time from factory marks, I didn't trust myself. I redid TDC and used digital angle meter and got to same place again. Factory marks were just that far off.
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This is why I use a timing light with adjustable degrees, once I mark TDC, don't need anything else. Mine was so far off the first time from factory marks, I didn't trust myself. I redid TDC and used digital angle meter and got to same place again. Factory marks were just that far off.
Which light do you use Christopher?
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I'm still in shock I was that far off using a wire and just the wheel.

Me too!
Guessing your TDC was off to begin with(?).
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We took it out for a run and couldn't get it over 300 degrees F. I want to do it again because we didn't have but a few minutes to test it out. Regardless, it's promising turn of events.

Great stuff…
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This is one Chandler posted a few days ago says 2 cycle compatible. I'll have to look in garage and see what I have.

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Thanks for this info Jack. I drilled the 1.0 by hand.

Is there an easy way to turn PSI into compression numbers? It's at 178 PSI. Probably too high like WhoDat was mentioning. So I can either shim head or sand out more volume in the head.

But check this out. Yesterday Chris came over and we reset the timing using SIPs inclinometer (SIPs version of the buzzwangle). My old marks were at 27 and 29 degrees BTDC! WTF? Regardless, I did it three times and set timing at 23 degrees BTDC. I'm still in shock I could be that far of using the wire technique as the gauge.

We took it out for a run and couldn't get it over 300 degrees F. I want to do it again because we didn't have but a few minutes to test it out. Regardless, it's promising turn of events.

And I totally blew it on the picture taking front. We had a lot to catch up on and I just spaced it.
Shocking but unsurprising, and that's just the shirts.

Timing marks are always just a guide. Piston stop and degree wheel accuracy is usually sufficient. With the higher compression 21 degrees should be plenty. 19 would do.

Now the temperature is under control. The jetting needs some confirmation. Find too rich at max rpm and WOT. 5 to 10 points down is it done.
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Shocking but unsurprising, and that's just the shirts.
Haha oh man so good...
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Glad you got your timing and heat issues worked out. Makes me want to quadruple check the timing on my own engine.

O-tuning a 200 is quite an accomplishment. When I rebuilt mine I kept it bone stock other than the exhaust. I just wanted one engine I could maintain by the book and not fuss with, but I will revisit that one day.
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Me too!
Guessing your TDC was off to begin with(?).
And that's part of the crazy thing - TDC mark was correct! I want to revisit this and time it the two methods I've timed before and figure out how I was so off...

Maybe it was too many Buttermilk bars. Ha! Razz emoticon
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Shocking but unsurprising, and that's just the shirts.

Timing marks are always just a guide. Piston stop and degree wheel accuracy is usually sufficient. With the higher compression 21 degrees should be plenty. 19 would do.

Now the temperature is under control. The jetting needs some confirmation. Find too rich at max rpm and WOT. 5 to 10 points down is it done.
What a crack up! I'm going to check this all again and do the above. Thanks Jack.

And thanks Christopher for the link. I'm intrigued about this, but can't get a picture in my head how it works!

I also want to convert the PSI of 178 to Compression ratio. I haven't looked this up or figured it out .... yet .....
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This is why I use a timing light with adjustable degrees, once I mark TDC, don't need anything else. Mine was so far off the first time from factory marks, I didn't trust myself. I redid TDC and used digital angle meter and got to same place again. Factory marks were just that far off.
OK, I think I've got a visual on this. Tell me if I'm correct...

You set the timing light to say, 21 or 23 degrees BTDC.
Strobe the engine,
and the TDC line should line up if the stator is set for 21 or 23 degrees.

So just one mark for TDC on case & fan, and the timing light does the rest.

Is this right?
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OK, I think I've got a visual on this. Tell me if I'm correct...

You set the timing light to say, 21 or 23 degrees BTDC.
Strobe the engine,
and the TDC line should line up if the stator is set for 21 or 23 degrees.

So just one mark for TDC on case & fan, and the timing light does the rest.

Is this right?
Yes, you can also adjust as you aim at TDC and figure out where you are currently set at.
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+1

Glad to see things are progressing better on the scooter front than the fashion front.
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A few words of wisdom…

Parallax effect…

(not as powerful as Chandler's survivorship bias… but a PITA regardless…)

Lining up the marks is actually pretty tough because of how far apart the flywheel mark is to the cases. Usually I have to measure 3-4 times with 2 other marks on the cases and the flywheel so I know I'm looking at the mark with the strobe at the same angle.

It's tough when you make the marks without the strobe in your face in your line of sight… then looking at the degree wheel…

I gave in after 2years and brought the CMD timing tool. Which you can start the engine with the tool in place and it's way closer to the flywheel.

Because you'd be surprised how much effect the timing has on your base jetting.
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A few words of wisdom…

Parallax effect…

(not as powerful as Chandler's survivorship bias… but a PITA regardless…)

Lining up the marks is actually pretty tough because of how far apart the flywheel mark is to the cases. Usually I have to measure 3-4 times with 2 other marks on the cases and the flywheel so I know I'm looking at the mark with the strobe at the same angle.

It's tough when you make the marks without the strobe in your face in your line of sight… then looking at the degree wheel…

I gave in after 2years and brought the CMD timing tool. Which you can start the engine with the tool in place and it's way closer to the flywheel.

Because you'd be surprised how much effect the timing has on your base jetting.
Do you know if there's a video online that's available for the tool? I'd like to see it work in action.
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Do you know if there's a video online that's available for the tool? I'd like to see it work in action.
I can't seem to find one except a small snippet from a SIP video where Erich from Egig uses it.

Maybe I can make a video of it…

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Do you know if there's a video online that's available for the tool? I'd like to see it work in action.
Here.

Vape timing is setup without the flywheel. The firing point (dotted line on the graph) is when the T marks line up. I haven't seen a Vape CDI deviate from the chart after strobing on the (anecdotal experiences) four in the garage.

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Here.

Vape timing is setup without the flywheel. The firing point (dotted line on the graph) is when the T marks line up. I haven't seen a Vape CDI deviate from the chart after strobing on the (anecdotal experiences) four in the garage.

Oh super good!

Never could find scooter center's videos with search… usually have to remember that they have a video on a specific topic!

Like the handlebar brake switch harness, or the cylinder studs videos…
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Thanks guys! I'm not out of the woods yet, but getting there.

108, "The Whale" tool looks pretty cool. I'd use one for sure. Might have to place an order....

I'm also diggin the idea of a variable timing light. Although my static one works fine.

Now to figure out how to convert PSI to compression ratio....
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If you have a variable timing light, you really don't need the Whale.

As to converting PSI to compression...that's a lot more work and complexity than you probably are thinking it should be, starting with questions like "how much volume is in your compression tester hose?" and "How much air escapes back out the transfers during the compression stroke?" which is, in turn, partly a question of "What's the volume of the crankcase?" And it goes on and on and on.

I'm not saying it's not worth a guess, just that you're going to be better off measuring the volume of the cylinder head plus the volume of the squish, then dividing that into total volume.
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Now to figure out how to convert PSI to compression ratio....
Compression Ratio = Absolute Exhaust Pressure/Absolute Intake Pressure.

To calculate absolute pressure you will need to add your local Atmospheric pressure to both the intake pressure and Exhaust Pressure.

You already know the Exhaust pressure. It should be what you are measuring using your compression gage. Now you need to measure what the piston produces on it's down stroke. You may need to use a vacuum gage to measure that and convert that reading to PSI for this calculation. The vacuum gage might read Inches of water or Inches of Mercury for vacuum pressure readings. Compression ratio is defined as how many times the intake pressure is increased by the piston.

BTW Atmospheric pressure at sea level is 14.7 PSI.


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Thanks guys.

I plugged some numbers into a spreadsheet and came out with 11.37:1. JetEye, I'd be curious what PSI you've got. I know, not the same engine, place, setup, etc, but I am curious if 178psi is too much.

And I think I'm going to order that variable timing light. It's Christmas after all Razz emoticon

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So I got a few minutes in the garage today and decided to check the timing again. I moved it to 21 degrees, which as far as the stator would turn without filing the slots.
Zeroing out the inclinometer on TDC
Zeroing out the inclinometer on TDC
There is TDC mark on the case and flywheel
There is TDC mark on the case and flywheel
Now at 23 degrees
Now at 23 degrees
23 degree mark, and 21
23 degree mark, and 21
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Timing at 21 is going to be closer to what's needed. For me compression at 11.37 is ok. My o tune is similar. The original euro head is about 9.8:1, the USA stamped ones are lower.
If the squish is 1mm tighter than stock, it will be about 11:1
PSI doesn't really work accurately on 2 strokes. Check valve position, hose length, exhaust port height and 2T oil, all make too many variables. PSI is definitely a guide to more or less, when using the same gauge.
Accurate compression has to be calculated. TDC volume of the head is the hardest to measure.
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Timing at 21 is going to be closer to what's needed. For me compression at 11.37 is ok...
This is most excellent new Jet-Eye. Thank you!

I'm excited to take it for a test run!
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If you have a variable timing light, you really don't need the Whale.

For me, the whale sorts out the parallax effect of viewing the marks you make at a distance. Your TDC mark on the flywheel and the timing marks are my apart rather than the inch and a half away.

It can be off 1-2 degrees depending on how you make the marks and where you measure.

Unless your head is in the same position when you view both marks (spin your head without moving your neck, lol…) you'll most likely be off target.

Granted this is getting pretty anal about setting timing.
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About the timing marks. The mark on the casing and on the stator are in the castings and will have good accuracy between scooters. The parts that are less accurate are the pickup coil functional position on the stator, trigger magnet to key position on the flywheel and biggest variable of them all key position to TDC on the crank taper. +/- a few degrees on each of these and the timing is just a guess. Fine for stock but to keep the tuned shiny parts shiny, accurate checking is required.
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I finally got a chance to put the timing light through it's paces. It's fantastic!

I spent a little time to find TDC, then marked it on the flywheel and.cowl.

Start the scooter up
Play with settings
Set for 2 stroke (little 2 vs 4 in the top-right corner)
Set the degrees until the TDC marks line up. In this case 18 degrees.
Run the revs up to 4k and check.

I'll be able to check timing by just finding TDC and marking the shroud and flywheel. Nice for a quick check on timing.

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I finally got a chance to put the timing light through it's paces. It's fantastic!

I spent a little time to find TDC, then marked it on the flywheel and.cowl.

Start the scooter up
Play with settings
Set for 2 stroke (little 2 vs 4 in the top-right corner)
Set the degrees until the TDC marks line up. In this case 18 degrees.
Run the revs up to 4k and check.

I'll be able to check timing by just finding TDC and marking the shroud and flywheel. Nice for a quick check on timing.

I'm going to have to do one of those variable lights sometime, marking the tdc and calling it good sounds so appealing!
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It's pretty sweet. Its great to do a quick check of the timing. But if it needs to be changed, the flywheel has to come off...

C'est la vie
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I'm going to have to do one of those variable lights sometime, marking the tdc and calling it good sounds so appealing!
Because it is!

The other handy thing is that it's super simple to find out actual timing because you just need to adjust the light until the marks line up and it's right there.
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