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Hopefully not so close to stock in performance. AC120 BE5 130MJ 55/160
See how this goes. Definitely not too lean.
Assuming all the usual. Fast flow tap, 8mm pipe, no air filter, autolube working, carb drilled over 2mm and a number 4 slide.

Need to run in for a while, at least a tank or two with 1% extra in the first one.
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Jack221 wrote:
Hopefully not so close to stock in performance. AC120 BE5 130MJ 55/160
See how this goes. Definitely not too lean.
Assuming all the usual. Fast flow tap, 8mm pipe, no air filter, autolube working, carb drilled over 2mm and a number 4 slide.

Need to run in for a while, at least a tank or two with 1% extra in the first one.
Ok, with this setup, its idling and running nice. Feels rich, which is good. I'm going nice and easy.

I've got everything you mention Jack except the number 4 slide. I don't know what's in it now. Next time the carb comes out, I'll check it.

Thanks everyone for your help and advice! I want to take it out through another heat cycle
Pin fixed
Pin fixed
Front brake lock while changing the tire.
Front brake lock while changing the tire.
Basking in the heat of the engine after a test run through the neighborhood.
Basking in the heat of the engine after a test run through the neighborhood.
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First kicks!
Test runs!!
Hot stuff!!!!
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Front brake lock!
Forgot about that one.
Thanks
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Excellent cotter pin shot.
Both for it's ironic humor and fine execution of bend!

Love it all around!
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[quote="GeekLion"]
FIRST START MILESTONE ACHIEVED!!! You have now increased your fun stats by 100 points! Way to go Scott & Chris

I haven't done much but I'm really good at what I do. Eat cookies, drink coffee and B.S. 😀
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FIRST START MILESTONE ACHIEVED!!! You have now increased your fun stats by 100 points! Way to go Scott & Chris

I haven't done much but I'm really good at what I do. Eat cookies, drink coffee and B.S. 😀
Pit Support Crew is still a vital part of the team
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Birdsnest wrote:
First kicks!
Test runs!!
Hot stuff!!!!
Thanks BN - so exciting!
Ray8 wrote:
Front brake lock!
Forgot about that one.
Thanks
Many more elegant ways to lock the front brake but the rag was in my hand Razz emoticon
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Excellent cotter pin shot.
Both for it's ironic humor and fine execution of bend!

Love it all around!
Thanks CM2 - I was cracking up actually when I was tapping the split pin with a screwdriver and various sets of needle nose & cutters (I feel weird now calling cutters dikes. How times change...).
Scootnewb wrote:
FIRST START MILESTONE ACHIEVED!!! You have now increased your fun stats by 100 points! Way to go Scott & Chris

I haven't done much but I'm really good at what I do. Eat cookies, drink coffee and B.S. 😀
Oh no my friend - You are elbow deep in this project - you forget all the parts you scrubbed and cleaned, "put on your safety glasses", "Are you sure you want to hit it with the hammer?", etc, etc.

As GL so aptly put - "Pit Support Crew is vital!"

It's gonna be in your garage soon!
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I put 15 miles on the new engine today. Stopped three times and let her cool down. Each time, started up first kick.

I decided to put a LED flasher in, and a modern blade fuse, nd cleaned up the left cowl a little. I'm going to take it for another spin here in a bit!
LED flasher
LED flasher
Tucked in behind the battery box. I forgot to get a better pic
Tucked in behind the battery box. I forgot to get a better pic
New fuse block
New fuse block
Tire back on...
Tire back on...
First stop - the harbor. The river is high...
First stop - the harbor. The river is high...
A different angle
A different angle
Veterans memorial parking area...
Veterans memorial parking area...
Before
Before
After - not much, but potential
After - not much, but potential
Installed
Installed
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I've never seen the appeal of a white P....

Until NOW!!!!!

Awesome pics by the water! Congrats on all you've accomplished thus far. Bet that 15 miles was fun today
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Great pics, and glad to hear its rolling well so far.
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I've never seen the appeal of a white P....

Until NOW!!!!!

Awesome pics by the water! Congrats on all you've accomplished thus far. Bet that 15 miles was fun today
Thanks K! It was a very fun day breaking in the motor. All those pieces of metal finding a balance with each other. You can actually feel the motor become a little more comfortable, and that is a thrill in itself. Then getting to cruise around town just adds to the fun factor.

I actually took her out for another quick run across the bridge this evening, just before sunset....
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Great pics, and glad to hear its rolling well so far.
Thanks GL - It seems like all the hard work of understanding what I was doing along the way is paying off, and following the fine directions from the Brain Trust of course. Many have done the trial and error for us. I'm so happy to be fortunate enough to learn and have access to that knowledge via our community here!
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That's awesome!! Love it.
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Since it came up earlier in the thread, I ran across a post with a picture that OopsClunkThud posted a few years ago of how he measured head volume...
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Took some head and piston measurements at lunch.

US center squish head volume (not counting the straight sides that add to squish clearance) is 22.3CC

With 3mm squish clearance that gives 9.85:1 (not sure what stock squish is but it's at least that big)

To make the squish work correctly it needs to be in the 1.5-1.7mm range and that would take it to 12-12.5:1

With a squish of 2mm you get the MSV above 15m/s at 7000rpm. and raise the CR to 11.5, so, not quite there on the squish but added compression.
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Thanks hjo! And thanks CM1 for posting the squish info.

I worked this engine to be 10.12:1 compression, which kep a fair bit of squish (3.10mm). Shooting for reliability and go all day, so taking Jack's advice at 10:1.

So far do good. It feels rich, but haven't really rung it up yet next tank full

Today it was misting a bit so I decided to install the CHT gauge properly and put a toyox hose on the fuel tap.

I also lifted up the headset because the throttle cable was ... Stiff...

Turns out the cable wasn't fully seated in the headset. While I was there I dripped lube in the cable housing and adjusted the throttle via the carb box barrel adjuster. Much better!
Guess what I'm gonna do?
Guess what I'm gonna do?
Wire braided hose - good stuff - thanks for the tip Whodatschrome!
Wire braided hose - good stuff - thanks for the tip Whodatschrome!
Pulling the CHT wire from the front to the back
Pulling the CHT wire from the front to the back
All done!
All done!
Throttle cable lubing ..
Throttle cable lubing ..
Quick trip to the store...
Quick trip to the store...
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OMG the thread that keeps on giving!

Also did the fuel line upgrade last week. The ID/OD ratio of that lined tube is awesome. I think the ID is 9mm. Feeds way better through grommets, etc.

Twisted the just-filled oil tank bolt loose by doing so, though. Woke up to a bench with tools, various bits, etc, swimming in a pool. Dripped out for three days. Lesson learned.

Happens I also did the same to the throttle cable today. Old grease and too much play from a stretched cable made it feel a bit wonky. Thought of pulling the outer but a good long shot of WD-40 (nice how that straw fits perfectly) drained the swamp. Pulled up about 3/8" of cable at the headset and re-tightened the barrel. Zero play now.

Will your BBQ rack fit with that sweet seat?
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The fact that you're taking the wood block with you to park it cracks me up!
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Ray8 wrote:
OMG the thread that keeps on giving!

Also did the fuel line upgrade last week. The ID/OD ratio of that lined tube is awesome. I think the ID is 9mm. Feeds way better through grommets, etc.

Twisted the just-filled oil tank bolt loose by doing so, though. Woke up to a bench with tools, various bits, etc, swimming in a pool. Dripped out for three days. Lesson learned.

Happens I also did the same to the throttle cable today. Old grease and too much play from a stretched cable made it feel a bit wonky. Thought of pulling the outer but a good long shot of WD-40 (nice how that straw fits perfectly) drained the swamp. Pulled up about 3/8" of cable at the headset and re-tightened the barrel. Zero play now.

Will your BBQ rack fit with that sweet seat?
Thanks Ray - I don't know about the BBQ rack. Probably not. I don't even have the back locking pin adjusted properly. I know Chris is interested in the seat, so I have it on there until he comes over on Thursday.
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The fact that you're taking the wood block with you to park it cracks me up!
Me too - I was busting up! I put the front rack with the box on Bianca, and had to stick one bag of groceries on the helmet hook cause the block needs to ride in the box.

Mercato order is showing up on Monday with a new center stand, so the block will do until then. Razz emoticon
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I have been using a wood block for 2 years since I made mine a leaner.
In fact - I've refined it.
I have two wood blocks.
Keep the tall one in my sidecar.
Used for general parking.
Short one in the garage - used for leaning the scoot further for working on the motor.
Makes perfect sense to me.
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I have two wood blocks.
Keep the tall one in my sidecar.
Used for general parking.
So you're saying that you have entire sidecar just to carry your wooden parking block around? Razz emoticon
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Clutch concerns.

Starting in first it's extremely grabby. And makes a little noise. I've rebuild a number of clutches now, and this doesn't feel "normal".

I remember seeing something about different size clutch plates and "I think it was Swiss" having a grabby clutch?

Does anybody have any ideas?
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If it was mine, I'd pull that clutch basket and tear it down. Perhaps the plates, or springs are binding. Springs could be unseated from the plate. The brass bushing could be binding. I've had plates that were a hair too large, and the tabs bind on the basket; but was hard to tell unless you gave it a real close inspection. Only one way to know
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Had a brass bush that caused the same issue on the VNB. Slapped a new one on and good as new.
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Had a brass bush that caused the same issue on the VNB. Slapped a new one on and good as new.
Yup. I'd start with the brass bushing, too. Did you replace it in the rebuild?
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Yup. I'd start with the brass bushing, too. Did you replace it in the rebuild?
Oh yes, new plates, cork, brass bushing, brash washer....
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You never know..... Facepalm emoticon ROFL emoticon
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qascooter wrote:
Oh yes, new plates, cork, brass bushing, brash washer....
Steel thust washer replaced? What was the clearance between the cog and washer? With everything else new it's one of these two.
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Steel thust washer replaced? What was the clearance between the cog and washer? With everything else new it's one of these two.
I don't know, but I'll inspect it tomorrow. Thanks for this Jack!
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Let me know what you thing of that Runleader tach/temp unit. I've installed a few and like them. Dig the fact that replacement probes are available. Going to modify one to take a screw-in plug instead of a sparkplug ring and see how it does.

Good luck with the clutch. I'll be dragging my white P out once the V9A is done and I'll be re-reading this thread for reminders.
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az_slynch wrote:
Let me know what you thing of that Runleader tach/temp unit. I've installed a few and like them. Dig the fact that replacement probes are available. Going to modify one to take a screw-in plug instead of a sparkplug ring and see how it does.

Good luck with the clutch. I'll be dragging my white P out once the V9A is done and I'll be re-reading this thread for reminders.
Will do. So far so good. Half the cost of a Trail tech, twice the functionality, and replaceable battery, and a backlight!
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Today was a good, no, great day! Chris came over and we BS'd scooters, pulled and fixed the clutch, analyzed seats, and went for a misty ride to the DMV and got the scooter registered. Oh, and most importantly, drank coffee and ate this fantastic raspberry tart stuff Valerie, Chris's wife, made for us. So good!

The clutch - two holes need to line up: one in the clutch basket and one in the base plate. Thanks for the heads up on this Mattgyver. I reassembled the clutch correctly.

Second issue: the gear washer or thrust washer behind the clutch was in backeards. The teeth bevel on the washer face the engine and mesh with the oil gear, which I had in backwards. A call to GeekLion set us straight. Thanks for the heads up GL!

Parts should arrive on Monday and I'll get this baby done and into Chris's hands...
Mmmmmm good ..
Mmmmmm good ..
If you look closely, you can see the hole in the plate inside the clutch basket
If you look closely, you can see the hole in the plate inside the clutch basket
Dang, this is good - thanks Valerie!
Dang, this is good - thanks Valerie!
Clutch thrust washer with bevel. This goes towards the engine
Clutch thrust washer with bevel. This goes towards the engine
Hanging out at the DMV. 15 minutes and we were on our way. Gotta love small town living...
Hanging out at the DMV. 15 minutes and we were on our way. Gotta love small town living...
Chris trying out Bianca for the first time. We switched scooters at the casino entrance. They have a huge overhang where we could stay dry
Chris trying out Bianca for the first time. We switched scooters at the casino entrance. They have a huge overhang where we could stay dry
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Looking good as always guys! Nice work on the clutch. You had it handled. Rasberry tart looks delish. You're almost there.
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Good work getting it fixed, temporarily. That thrust cog was on the right was round. The bevel that goes to the engine is in the centre of the cog. Outer bevel is the clutch grabbing wear. Turning it over allows it to wear on the other side. New cog looks like this
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/washer-clutch-th-3-7mm-piaggio_22297700?q=PX%20clutch
Will it be run in and jetted befor handover? We all want to know how it goes.
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Jack221 wrote:
Good work getting it fixed, temporarily. That thrust cog was on the right was round. The bevel that goes to the engine is in the centre of the cog. Outer bevel is the clutch grabbing wear. Turning it over allows it to wear on the other side. New cog looks like this
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/washer-clutch-th-3-7mm-piaggio_22297700?q=PX%20clutch
Will it be run in and jetted befor handover? We all want to know how it goes.
so..my bad on the bad advice gascooter INNER bevel goes toward the engine... Facepalm emoticon Guess I've always used a worn cog
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I'm guessing y'all were thinking of this clutch washer with the inner bevel, used on older motors. On it, the bevel faces toward the motor, and if you get it backwards, the clutch pressure will eventually cause it to shatter and grenade the inside of your cases.

I've fortunately never done it, but I recall posts from people on here who have.
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'15 GTS300, '86 PX125EFL, '66 VBB, '01 ET4
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so those 2 holes lining up is a thing? is that the case on all the clutches? i don't remember ever paying attention to that before Must be lucky that my clutches have behaved but I'm curious.

looks like good times!
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79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62)
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sdjohn wrote:
so those 2 holes lining up is a thing? is that the case on all the clutches? i don't remember ever paying attention to that before Must be lucky that my clutches have behaved but I'm curious.

looks like good times!
Hey John, Apparently so. On the seven spring for sure because the springs can be slightly off if the holes aren't lined up. My understanding anyway.
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Jack221 wrote:
Good work getting it fixed, temporarily. That thrust cog was on the right was round. The bevel that goes to the engine is in the centre of the cog. Outer bevel is the clutch grabbing wear. Turning it over allows it to wear on the other side. New cog looks like this
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/washer-clutch-th-3-7mm-piaggio_22297700?q=PX%20clutch
Will it be run in and jetted befor handover? We all want to know how it goes.
Oh man! Thanks Jack - I just ordered one. Not a big deal to swap it out when the new one gets here.

And yes, I plan on running it in and jetting it before the handoff. I'll get to ride it a bunch also, whenever I go over to "the Valley" (Eugene/Springfield).

I've noticed it revs up nicely but is rich, which is good for now. I've got another tank I want to run through it, then I'll look at jetting.
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GeekLion wrote:
so..my bad on the bad advice gascooter INNER bevel goes toward the engine... Facepalm emoticon Guess I've always used a worn cog
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