Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:25 pm

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2007 Vespa GTS 250ie 2011 Vespa GTS 300ie
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Location: Finger Lakes, NY, USA
 
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:25 pm linkquote
As my wife and I have had our Vespa GTS for less than a month, there's been a bit of a learning curve, and we've had a lot of fun. After seeing the hunched over racer on a Vespa in another thread, it got me thinking about my posture while riding. How does everyone else sit on their scooter? Nice and tall, hunched down, or somewhere in between? What do you find comfortable?
Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:26 pm

Enthusiast
Primavera 150
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Location: Monument, Colorado
 
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:26 pm linkquote
Tall and proud like a soldier should.
Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:52 pm

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:52 pm linkquote
Relaxed. Back straight and upright. Elbows 'floppy'.

Except when going as fast as possible that is, then it's the 'scooter tuck', elbows in, eyes peeled...
Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:55 pm

Hooked
'05 Vespa ET4 150
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:55 pm linkquote
I ride hunched over to reach the bars with my butt pushed back like a miserably tall circus bear on a kid's bike.
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:58 pm

Hooked
2020 GTS300 HPE "Whiskers"
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:58 pm linkquote
It varies with speed/wind/conditions. Whatever is comfortable. The Vespa is roomy enough to allow for a fair amount of movement.
Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:41 pm

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Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:41 pm linkquote
Put me in sitting group. Relaxed but upright.

Chris from CLE
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:10 pm

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Location: Tega Cay, SC
 
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:10 pm linkquote
Just curious, have you both taken a MSF class?
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:13 pm

Molto Verboso
2021 GTS 300 HPE +2013 GTS 300ie + 294 Polini
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Posts: 1758
Location: Pretoria, South Africa
 
Molto Verboso
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:13 pm linkquote
In motorcycling circles, mine is termed "sit up and beg'.

I have a lower back situation that at times causes me some pain. (Don't we all?)
From my days of riding motorcycles, I found that a ride with the wind blowing against my chest causes the core muscles in my gut to pull it right again. Sometimes a short ten minute ride will do it, but most times a half hour to an hour is required for drug-free pain relief.

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:15 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:15 pm linkquote
Fudmucker wrote:
"sit up and beg [like a dog]".
^^^^This

Miguel
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:16 pm

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GTS300 Super 2015 Blue, GTS300 Super 2018 White
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:16 pm linkquote
I sit in the middle of the saddle, leaning forward slightly with a little weight on my arms. I have a mono seat.
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:18 pm

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:18 pm linkquote
^^^^ This in spades for me. I too suffer from lower back pain - too much playing rugby as prop for the 3rd 15 after three pints at lunchtime way back when - and a good blast through some twisties on the scooter can sort out any twinges before they get to spasms.
Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:31 pm

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2021 Primavera 150 touring, 2016 LXV 150 ie, 1978 Vespa P125, 2019 Piaggio Liberty 150
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Location: central Illinois USA
 
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:31 pm linkquote
3 scooters and each sits different…. Foot area is different, seats are different and the height is different… but if I am hunched up, it's probably raining and I hope to get home before it really opens up!
Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:20 pm

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2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP) 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:20 pm linkquote
jimc wrote:
^^^^ This in spades for me. I too suffer from lower back pain - too much playing rugby as prop for the 3rd 15 after three pints at lunchtime way back when - and a good blast through some twisties on the scooter can sort out any twinges before they get to spasms.
Rugby….you're clearly a better man than I. (Mostly by the fact that you're still breathing.)

My general posture is neither super-relaxed nor racer-boy-ish, but rather a bit like this chap:


Photo via Vespa.au. How they do it in Oz?



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Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:05 pm

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
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Posts: 1378
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:05 pm linkquote
amateriat wrote:
My general posture is neither super-relaxed not racer-boy-ish, but rather a bit like this chap:

[Photo via Vespa.au. How they do it in Oz?]

That pic is about what I do (here in Oz) except I have feet forward. 🛵🛵🛵

And I often corner that hard - look at the edge of his front tire - right on the limit
Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:26 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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Location: Hermit Kingdom
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:26 pm linkquote
steelbytes wrote:
That pic is about what I do (here in Oz) except I have feet forward. 🛵🛵🛵

And I often corner that hard - look at the edge of his front tire - right on the limit
On the wrong side of the road?
Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:31 pm

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
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Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:31 pm linkquote
znomit wrote:
On the wrong side of the road?
lol, well spotted 😀

Nah, I'm pretty good about that - only when i can see a *very* long way ahead would i cross the line. Even then i don't often as i generally prefer to avoid the change in grip of the paint
Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:22 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
In garage: Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956
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Location: Latina (Italy)
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:22 pm linkquote
Fifteen years on the agricultural tractor have left their mark, for the short distances I stand my back upright but otherwise tilt my back.
But there is little space in the saddle and I'm big so I have to put my ass on the top of the step in the middle of the saddle ...
The back thanks but the ass does not.
Another problem, the flat platform which is a convenience for getting on / off and transporting goods, does not allow (as in the Vespa and other scooters) to tighten the feet against a possible central tunnel that offers support for lateral sliding; I know ... you can't have it all.
Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:56 am

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2006 Vespa GT (Rocket): 2005 Vespa GT (Razzo): 2007 Vespa GT (Vanessa): 2009 Yamaha Zuma 125 (Zoom): 2018 Yamaha Xmax (Max),
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:56 am linkquote
My normal posture is a slouch with feet forward, sort of middle of the floor.

But I sit up straight at times to stretch my back and help see over a hill.

Because some of my rides are 5+ hours, I find that moving around keeps me comfortable.

Feet forward, feet back.

Slouch, sit up straight, lean forward.

Butt middle, forward and back a little.

One day on the 2014 SCR, in Western Wyoming, I found I was falling asleep.

I countered that by "rowing" Rocket near the end of the day.

It worked. I stayed awake and we ended up with the highest score that day.

Bill


Riding in Montana and Wyoming can make you sleepy.

Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:09 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:09 am linkquote
... oh yes ... it is a rather monotonous landscape. I would make a trade, I shouldn't worry about traffic and broken asphalt.
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:05 am

Member
2007 Vespa GTS 250ie 2011 Vespa GTS 300ie
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Posts: 14
Location: Finger Lakes, NY, USA
 
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:05 am linkquote
Tierney wrote:
Just curious, have you both taken a MSF class?
Yes. Not much was said about sitting posture other than to keep your knees against the gas tank... Can't really do that on the Vespa!
Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:11 am

Molto Verboso
1979 P200E (sold) / ZNEN Amore 150 (sold) / Genuine Buddy 170i / Genuine Stella 4T /Aprilia Sportcity One 50
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:11 am linkquote


Yes. I look exactly this cool all the time every time I ride. Exactly.
Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:54 am

Molto Verboso
2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Posts: 1133
Location: south Texas
 
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2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:54 am linkquote
seamus26 wrote:


Yes. I look exactly this cool all the time every time I ride. Exactly.
I think I look that cool, but all the 360 video I shoot shows me otherwise. I sit like I do in a comfortable dining chair: feet forward, mostly upright, shoulders relaxed. I do lean forward a bit at highway speeds, but nothing that could be described as a tuck.
Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:19 am

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Gigi, '13 GTS 300ie Touring
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Location: Phoenix, AZ.
 
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:19 am linkquote
jimc wrote:
Relaxed. Back straight and upright. Elbows 'floppy'.

Except when going as fast as possible that is, then it's the 'scooter tuck', elbows in, eyes peeled...
^^^THIS^^^

I should add, I often cross my legs or place my feet back on the crash bars when the road is straight and long.
Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:47 am

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MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
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MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:47 am linkquote




Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:47 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Location: Latina (Italy)
 
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:47 am linkquote
Captain Jim wrote:
I think I look that cool, but all the 360 video I shoot shows me otherwise. I sit like I do in a comfortable dining chair: feet forward, mostly upright, shoulders relaxed. I do lean forward a bit at highway speeds, but nothing that could be described as a tuck.
You are cool because you are on a Vespa (which has notoriously small wheels ) and therefore more acrobatic.
Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:33 am

Molto Verboso
Vespa ET3 & Vespa PX150 & Vespa GTS 300
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Location: Berlin
 
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:33 am linkquote
Posture on your Vespa toilet
Now go back and re-read all the answers.
Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:31 am

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2013 Vespa 300 Super, 2022 Kymco AK 550
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:31 am linkquote
I have become more of a slouch as I age. Vespa - feet forward - slight slouch on the
handlebars.

Der BlechFahrer,

I read whole novels (a few pages at a time) while slouched on the toilet.
A more defined slouch than on the Vespa. Crappy literature.

Bob Copeland
Frost Bite Falls Minnesota
Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:16 pm

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2021 Primavera 150 touring, 2016 LXV 150 ie, 1978 Vespa P125, 2019 Piaggio Liberty 150
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Location: central Illinois USA
 
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:16 pm linkquote
stickyfrog wrote:
This had me laughing, yes, that is me..the lower photo but no passenger..oh, gray hair flying..
Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:21 pm

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Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:21 pm linkquote
I am 6 ft 6 in so I look like a giraffe on my Sprint but I do not care.
Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:48 pm

Hooked
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Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:48 pm linkquote
WWespa wrote:
I am 6 ft 6 in so I look like a giraffe on my Sprint but I do not care.
As a 6'5" circus bear I salute you and your species!
Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:37 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2006 GTS 250
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Location: KS USA
 
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2006 GTS 250
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Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:37 am linkquote
I ride like Jesse's wife once said. I ride and look like a peacock.
Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:45 am

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
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Posts: 8655
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
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Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:45 am linkquote
Fairly upright, but relaxed and with a slight hunch. It's comfortable and fairly loose for shiftsin position and maneuvers. Of course I'll tuck more in desperate attempts for more speed
Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:52 am

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PX-150
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Location: Italy
 
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Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:52 am linkquote
Upright and relaxed when I'm out riding in the countryside. If I have a passenger or cargo, then I usually need to sit way forward. Yet, most of my driving is in the city on old stone roads, some of which date to Roman times. So I'm usually hunched down clenching the handlebars.
Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:03 pm

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GTS300 Super (Heinz) GTS250 Super (Bulger)
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Location: Tempe, AZ
 
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Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:03 pm linkquote
I am all over the place. Tall and upright is the ideal, but slouched and crouched and hunched is more like it.
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