Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:03 am

Ossessionato
Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
 
Ossessionato
Mp3 500
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Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:03 am linkquote
I have a long history with the local shop here, lets leave them nameless though its easy enough to figure out who it is.
The history includes me being the all time big spender at the shop, ( last I knew) not that I think that should make me a priveledged guy, but ought to carry a little weight anyway. You might think.
So, long story short, would any of you be ok with your ride being in the shop for 5 weeks, and still not been looked at that I know of? Not waiting for parts, just to get looked at.
Its the scooter world, I know. And I like these gays, particularly the mechanic, but losing a big chunk of the short season here makes me think next time it gets hauled in, it might be time to take it somewhere else.
The question is, is this sort of wait time common in your experience?
Promises last Tuesday that is would be looked at this week seem to be not happening, unless I hear from them today.
If I was better at wrenching, I would be doing it myself.
Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:06 am

Ossessionato
Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
 
Ossessionato
Mp3 500
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Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:06 am linkquote
guys. Not gays. Never see how you can edit a post from a phone?
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:24 am

Hooked
Piaggio MP3 500LT
Joined: 20 Mar 2014
Posts: 189
Location: South Wales
 
Hooked
Piaggio MP3 500LT
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Posts: 189
Location: South Wales
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:24 am linkquote
What has it gone in for?
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:45 am

Ossessionato
Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
 
Ossessionato
Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:45 am linkquote
just started dying at stops. Then it got serious about it and wouldn't run. Could be a lot of things, but not likely anything major.
Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:11 am

Hooked
Joined: 06 Nov 2014
Posts: 297
Location: Uk rochdale
 
Hooked
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Posts: 297
Location: Uk rochdale
Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:11 am linkquote
Sounds like it's just a throttle body removal and good clean to me.it takes around 30 minutes to do.so 5 weeks is just unthinkable.I'd be demanding an appoligy from its owner.but maybe they may just take a little longer your side of the pond.
Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:06 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 21961
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 21961
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:06 pm linkquote
yes I would be majorly pissed off as well. 1 week ok, 2 weeks hmmm, i'll deal with it. after that I would have already got it back and went somewhere else and made it very loud and plain in front of as many customers as I could that this is not acceptable waiting times , especially for a customer who regularly uses this shop and buys stuff from them. My money will be spent somewhere else from now on, and I will let others know as well.

now on to the scooter.

throttle body cleaning and 2 fresh plugs, also clean and inspect the air filter.
Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:31 pm

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Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
 
Ossessionato
Mp3 500
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Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:31 pm linkquote
Yes, think they have had it long enough, if something isn't happening on Tuesday when they open I will have it hauled somewhere else--Some of the former mechanics have opened their own repair shop. Maybe time
to see if they are more responsive.
Not happy with another $100 for taking it elsewhere though. But,
Hey, I got no problems, could be in Houston, Puerto Rico or Mexico city
so no complaints. Life is good.
Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:46 pm

Hooked
2008 MP2 250 i.e.
Joined: 05 Aug 2014
Posts: 121
Location: Chippewa Lake, MI
 
Hooked
2008 MP2 250 i.e.
Joined: 05 Aug 2014
Posts: 121
Location: Chippewa Lake, MI
Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:46 pm linkquote
Rob In Denver wrote:
Yes, think they have had it long enough, if something isn't happening on Tuesday when they open I will have it hauled somewhere else--Some of the former mechanics have opened their own repair shop. Maybe time
to see if they are more responsive.
Not happy with another $100 for taking it elsewhere though. But,
Hey, I got no problems, could be in Houston, Puerto Rico or Mexico city
so no complaints. Life is good.
I like your attitude!
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:28 pm

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Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
 
Ossessionato
Mp3 500
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Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:28 pm linkquote
I think You just got to be thankful for being spared the misery others are going through!
Most of my issues fall under the "white peoples problems" category.
I am having trouble getting my expensive three wheeled Italian scooter worked on! Boo hoo.
I just need to remember to see things in some kind of perspective!
I am so freakin lucky.
Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:04 am

Ossessionato
2016 MP3/500 Sport ABS, 2009 MP3/250, 2012 GTS Super 300ie
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
Posts: 4295
Location: Marietta, GA
 
Ossessionato
2016 MP3/500 Sport ABS, 2009 MP3/250, 2012 GTS Super 300ie
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
Posts: 4295
Location: Marietta, GA
Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:04 am linkquote
Your Experience is very common these days.
Scooter Shops have High Turnover, don't pay that much money to Mechanics; yet they demand about $120 Hour for customers to get work done.
The Dealers that do have good Mechanics as they learn and become Skilled, they quit and go someplace else.

My Advice is you learn how to fix your bike.
Start with Oil, then Belt/Roller Changes, Tires, Coolant Change, Brake Fluids, etc... etc...

As things happen, you do some research here, youtube.com and try and fix it yourself. That's how I started...

I now have a Handy Lift, and with 3 Bikes, I have saved a lot of money.
I don't know everything, but I have friends here in the Atlanta Area that I have helped,;and I have some who have come over to show me how to do things.

I am getting ready to go into Tire Mounting...
When my Dealer was charging me $20, that was not so bad...
Now they have jacked up the price so much.
Its time to invest in a Tire Changer like the "No Mar", etc...


Having one bike, and down time is unfortunate.
That used to frustrate the hell out of me with my Dealer.
They seem to focus their shop to get a New Bike out the door, and Oil Changes vs other items where they want to work on it when they feel like it attitude.

That is what made me buy another bike.
Now I have 3...

I have had one bike down for the whole summer while I carefully identify parts, find them at reasonable prices, and take my time rebuilding the bike to "Better than New".
Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:19 pm

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Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
 
Ossessionato
Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:19 pm linkquote
Yes all true.
I do in fact have my wifes 250 Vespa to ride, or I would really be pissed.
And though I have worked on my bikes in the past ( even pulling the engine and replacing it once--was truly in over my head on that one) my current digs doesn't lend itself to having a place to work on a bike really. And, I struggle with mechanical things.
So, I throw my lot and my money to someone else to do the work. It definitly has its drawbacks compared to doing it on your own!
Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:55 pm

Ossessionato
2016 MP3/500 Sport ABS, 2009 MP3/250, 2012 GTS Super 300ie
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
Posts: 4295
Location: Marietta, GA
 
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2016 MP3/500 Sport ABS, 2009 MP3/250, 2012 GTS Super 300ie
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
Posts: 4295
Location: Marietta, GA
Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:55 pm linkquote
Rob In Denver wrote:
Yes all true.
I do in fact have my wifes 250 Vespa to ride, or I would really be pissed.
And though I have worked on my bikes in the past ( even pulling the engine and replacing it once--was truly in over my head on that one) my current digs doesn't lend itself to having a place to work on a bike really. And, I struggle with mechanical things.
So, I throw my lot and my money to someone else to do the work. It definitely has its drawbacks compared to doing it on your own!
Understand...
I have a friend here in Atlanta that lives in a Condo.
He rented one of those Storage Garages near his home.
He calls it his "Shop"
Might be something to consider if its cost prohibitive.
Typically these places have good Security, and supply power in the units.

Good Luck,
Keith
Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:58 pm

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Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
 
Ossessionato
Mp3 500
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Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:58 pm linkquote
So, with apologies from the very good guy who is the lead mechanic there, I got the bike back today, right at six weeks.
They found a number of small issues, the most prevalent the air filter clogged--with exactly what
i never learned--oil? I did not notice anything if so.
Cleaned the plugs, and a few other
minor things.
This is all worrisome since it was thoroughly gone through last winter, and I havent ridden all that much since then.
oh yeah, another nice thing, no charge for labor since they had it so long. Sweetens it a bit.
Think i will stay close to home for a while, till I can trust it again
Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:20 pm

Hooked
MP3 500
Joined: 20 May 2008
Posts: 479
Location: Chicago
 
Hooked
MP3 500
Joined: 20 May 2008
Posts: 479
Location: Chicago
Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:20 pm linkquote
Good to hear they treated you well and the problem was minor!
Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:45 am

Ossessionato
2016 MP3/500 Sport ABS, 2009 MP3/250, 2012 GTS Super 300ie
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
Posts: 4295
Location: Marietta, GA
 
Ossessionato
2016 MP3/500 Sport ABS, 2009 MP3/250, 2012 GTS Super 300ie
Joined: 08 Jul 2011
Posts: 4295
Location: Marietta, GA
Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:45 am linkquote
Rob In Denver wrote:
So, with apologies from the very good guy who is the lead mechanic there, I got the bike back today, right at six weeks.
They found a number of small issues, the most prevalent the air filter clogged--with exactly what
i never learned--oil? I did not notice anything if so.
Cleaned the plugs, and a few other
minor things.
This is all worrisome since it was thoroughly gone through last winter, and I havent ridden all that much since then.
oh yeah, another nice thing, no charge for labor since they had it so long. Sweetens it a bit.
Think i will stay close to home for a while, till I can trust it again
Oil?
Have you not seen all the discussion here about Oil Blow?
Suggest you check your Air Box after every Ride / Check your Oil Levels.
Don't top it off, if your blowing it to your Air Filter.
Keep your Oil Low on the Stick.
If you change yourself, don't use any more then 1500cc.

Keith,
Marietta, GA
Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:14 am

Ossessionato
Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
 
Ossessionato
Mp3 500
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 2320
Location: Denver Colorado
Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:14 am linkquote
yes, oil blow was why i changed engines a few years back. You couldnt miss it!
Like i said, the new motor has never done it and perhaps I got
complacent. It ran fine until it suddenly didn't.
Keeping an eye on it and the pkugs now.
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Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:24 am

Enthusiast
2008 MP3 250
Joined: 06 Aug 2012
Posts: 57
Location: Jacksonville Florida
 
Enthusiast
2008 MP3 250
Joined: 06 Aug 2012
Posts: 57
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:24 am linkquote
I realize this post is over 4 years old but I have just one question for buddyspudface. In whose world can it only take 30 minutes to remove the throttle body? Is that only after removing all the tupperware around the throttle body? I can only assume that is only after removing the internal pet carrier which looks like another PITA. I really don't mind the work but please give me some direction with your advice.
Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:46 am

Hooked
50cc Beo, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 400
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 400
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:46 am linkquote
The throttle body/ECU is under that lid in the pet carrier.



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