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So, are there 50s engines spanish? If so could someone point the differences?
How about LML 50cc engine similar to the original we all know?
Im asking only about motor (cases, cylinder, brake pads and rotor, electric part)
How different are they?

Thanks.

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deepinthejungle wrote:
So, are there 50s engines spanish? If so could someone point the differences?
How about LML 50cc engine similar to the original we all know?
Im asking only about motor (cases, cylinder, brake pads and rotor, electric part)
How different are they?

Thanks.

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trying to understand your question.

I think you are saying:
1) Are there 50cc Spanish made engines? If so, what are the differences between them?
2.) What are the differences between 50cc Spanish made versus 50cc LML made engines?
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I dont know if LML and Spanish Vespa have 50cc engines, similar to the ones we find on an original 50s Vespa. If so, what are their differences?

Thanks!
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Your picture is of a Vespa T5, which is a 125cc sports model. Still not clear on your questions.
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They said the pic is for attention only.

I think the questions are:

1) are there Spanish market 50cc that are different from Italian-made Piaggio motors? If so, in what way?

2) are there LML 50cc - and are they different from Italian-made Piaggio motors? If so, in what way?

3) are Spanish and LML 50cc motors (if any) the same?
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I can't say for Spain, but LML did make a smallframe motor of the same basic design as the 50s, but it's a 3 port 125cc like an ET3 and has a single cable shifter and 12V electronic ignition like a PK50XL2.


The third port is all in the piston & cylinder, so nothing to see on the case, but the single cable shifter connection looks like this:
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I'll pitch in with my opinion. I lived in Spain for 24 years (from early 70's to mid 90's) and the smallest displacement vespa that I ever seen were the 75cc ,90cc, and the 100cc but I never seen a 50cc vespa in Spain.

I have seen dozens of mopeds(ciclomotores as they called it there) and yes some of these ciclomotores(mopeds) were made by Motovespa (a Spanish brand of Vespa/Piaggio) but not on the PK series vespa body. The 49cc engines(ALL OF THEM) are considered mopeds. I have seen other countries in Europe where they had a Vespa P series 50cc engine but I never seen it in Spain.
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