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Since the scooter will be DC powered the original AC horn won't work for my application anymore. I ended up using a 12DC PK horn and the outer horn shell cover from the VB1. It took a bit of grinding and trimming on the PK horn to get it the right dimensions so that i could simply set the VB1 shell directly over the top of it.
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I also installed clutch and gear cables today (no throttle or choke cable just yet). I have a long roll of cable that i bought from Motion Pro. MP also sells the matching metal ferrals.
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I got 99% of the wiring completed today. I powered up the harness so that i could test everything. Everything works great when it's hooked up to a stable 12VDC power source. I'm really curious just how well everything will work with just the capacitor.
I will still have to aim and then somehow mount and anchor the LED light, but that will have to be done once the scooter is up and running. ![]() ![]()
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charlieman22 wrote: Hahahaha. Scoot is looking so Good. Extra mile on brakes, lighting, front end fork tube, are gonna make it sucha cool scoot to ride. |
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whodatschrome wrote: I'm definitely in the home stretch now. Maybe i can get it up an running by next weekend? I'm also going to have to figure out how to get the scooter off the saw horses. All the individual bits and pieces were lightweight enough when assembling them to the frame. I wonder just which part (or parts) will be the straw that breaks the camel's back when it comes time to pick it up. |
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Christopher_55934 wrote: Engine hoist to lift it up? *Pro tip, don't eat the eggs chorizo at the Best Western in Tucson, Arizona |
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I did a little bit of aesthetic work today on the LED headlight bezel. I sanded off all the black anodizing and then polished it up. I started out with 220 grit on the DA sander, then to 320, then a final quick 400 grit. Then used a bidding wheel to make it shiny. I didn't want absolute perfection whatsoever, just something that would kinda blend in with some of the other aged shiny bits that are currently on the scooter. I think the polished bezel looks MUCH better on the scooter than the anodized black.
![]() after sanding all the black anodizing off the bezel with 400 grit
![]() what the bezel looks like after polishing it.
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Dig the polished bezel. Get what you're trying to do with the amber light, but if you were taking a vote, I think I'd go with a clear lens. Really nice work.
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SoCalGuy wrote: Dig the polished bezel. Get what you're trying to do with the amber light, but if you were taking a vote, I think I'd go with a clear lens. Really nice work. I think i would need more yellow or gold accents on the scooter so that the amber lens wouldn't be such a prominent feature. A gold colored SIP brake caliper, gold master cylinder reservoir for the rear disc brake, gold brake banjo bolts and fittings, and something gold colored in the tail area could work, but then it might throw the whole rusty look thing out the window.
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whodatschrome wrote: I might just have to use my middle age man strength and just hump it up bare handed, but it might be until next week until i do that. The reason being is that i got some food poisoning last saturday and i still feel pretty darn lousy this saturday. I don't want a mishap and be forced to do a wardrobe change midday... *Pro tip, don't eat the eggs chorizo at the Best Western in Tucson, Arizona |
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SoCalGuy wrote: Dig the polished bezel. Get what you're trying to do with the amber light, but if you were taking a vote, I think I'd go with a clear lens. Really nice work. ![]()
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Just a quick note to say... this thread is always so entertaining to catch up on!!!
Build of the year thread. Truly.
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whodatschrome wrote: I think it looks much better now. Thank you for the aesthetic advice! |
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Birdsnest wrote: Just a quick note to say... this thread is always so entertaining to catch up on!!! Build of the year thread. Truly. Whodat- what are the big jobs still left? Looks almost ready to ride. |
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whodatschrome wrote: I have a heart for amber colored lenses on really really old motos...but looking at my pics a third time, you just might be right about a clear lens looking better on this particular project. The other benefit of switching back to a clear lens is that i'll get a ton more lumins back that the amber lens is currently sapping. I'll look into that option. Thank you for the input! I think i would need more yellow or gold accents on the scooter so that the amber lens wouldn't be such a prominent feature. A gold colored SIP brake caliper, gold master cylinder reservoir for the rear disc brake, gold brake banjo bolts and fittings, and something gold colored in the tail area could work, but then it might throw the whole rusty look thing out the window. |
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charlieman22 wrote: Second that notion. Whodat- what are the big jobs still left? Looks almost ready to ride. I'm hoping i can get the scooter back on its feet by friday afternoon? Maybe not running just yet, but i'm hoping for 99% assembled. I think i just need to install the aluminum floorboard structure and centerstand, jet the T5 24/24 carb, and install the fuel tank. I did get both the front and rear hydro brakes bleed. I did a test and both front and rear brake pressure switches do work. I painted the new fuel tank with a grey epoxy primer last week. I rattle canned a bronze hammer type paint over the top of the primer. It doesn't match the current finish on the scooter, but it looks 100% better than just a grey primer color. The textured hammer paint does give it sort of a pitted rust look from afar though. I think once the saddle seat is installed the tank will blend in well enough. The bonus was that i already had the hammer paint in my shop. I also wire wheeled the inside of the rims, then dunked them in Ospho, then brushed them with primer. I'm trying to let the primer harden up a few more day before i go installing tires and tubes. ![]() A VERY rusted out tank that was out of my other VB1.
![]() i purposefully spray the rattle can hammer paint in a way to create a mottled look. I didn't want an even look to the texture.
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![]() this really rusty rim can be used for my spare tire
![]() throttle and choke cables are now installed
![]() ![]() lock cylinder is now installed. The key fob is actually the dewclaw off of my late pot bellied pig (RIP Bentley).
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I don't know where to start.
The tank paint is brilliant. The dew claw is… unexpected. Tru love. |
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i'm getting a bit closer...
I knew that a P series kickstart lever was going to foul out against the floorboard. I had planned on bending the lever...but then i quickly checked my memory banks and an alert popped up. I did a quick search in my kickstarter collection and found a likely donor. I fitted it up, and wouldn't you know it?...the lever was already bent to the exact position that i needed to be in! It happened to be bent down about 1/2" and out away from the engine an 1". ![]() the straight kickstart lever makes contact with the floorboard
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I got all the cables and the harness tidied in the frame tunnel, bolted up the aluminum floor plate, then *TRIED to install the Sito+.
*long story short, i tried heating up the neck of the Sito (where the O ring seal is located) with a propane torch, and then, BOOM! Apparently something got ignited and shot an exploding flame burst into my face. It burned off some of my right side eyebrows, half my right side eye lashes, and burned some of my eyeball itself! Bummer was that i had to take a quick trip to the ER, instead of working on the scooter for the rest of the day. My ball should heal up fine, but it does hurt quite i bit. The Doc gave me a couple "special" numbing eye drop that took 100% of the pain away. He did say that unfortunately that they can't give the rest of the eye drop bottle away. Once he was done with working on my eye, he left the room and left the eye drop bottle on the table right next me. I was confident enough that he did that on purpose, so i didn't feel wrong about rescuing that bottle from its inevitable short lived life in the hazmat garbage can. It's a good thing too, because i took another drop of it on my way home...and perhaps one more drop after i got hole so that i could finish installing that Sito+! ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Damn.
Scary. Need to buy myself some better safety glasses. Hope you heal up quick. Did you seriously come back and put the exhaust on? Jeez. What are those cable holders that align them so nice in a row like that? |
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charlieman22 wrote: Damn. Scary. Need to buy myself some better safety glasses. Hope you heal up quick. Did you seriously come back and put the exhaust on? Jeez. What are those cable holders that align them so nice in a row like that? Whodats, yikes! You're too close to riding it to blind yourself! Take care man! |
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charlieman22 wrote: Did you seriously come back and put the exhaust on? Jeez. What are those cable holders that align them so nice in a row like that? Those are just zip-ties. Zoom in if you can. They're a poor man's sparkplug wire organizer. That little trick looks pretty trick and works really well.
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whodatschrome wrote: Those are just zip-ties. Zoom in if you can. They're a poor man's sparkplug wire organizer. That little trick looks pretty trick and works really well. ![]() ![]() |
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Somewhere in a Pacific North West emergency room:
Dr: Nurse, have you seen the droplet bottle?! I left it in the patients room. Nurse: No Dr., which bottle? Dr: The one with an eyelet dropper containing Heroin
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charlieman22 wrote: Somewhere in a Pacific North West emergency room: Dr: Nurse, have you seen the droplet bottle?! I left it in the patients room. Nurse: No Dr., which bottle? Dr: The one with an eyelet dropper containing Heroin Now y'all got me wondering what the heck exactly inside that little dropper bottle. I was going to help a friend do some welding today, but i told him about my little fireball incident and how i have a new bottle of eye drops. He jokingly asked if it was liquid cocaine. Now you guys got me worried! I did quite using them last night right before i went to bed. Though the eye is still painful, it's now easily manageable. I can now open my eye about 25% of the time so all is good. I did quit the eye drops cold turkey last night. |
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I got a bunch of stuff done on the scooter today...
-tires and rusty wheels mounted. -side cowls adjusted and installed. -license plate bracket installed. -P200 helmet (luggage) hook installed. -rear brake reservoir attached to a mounting point. ![]() There's lots of P200 bits on and in the scooter, so why not add a corroded P series luggage hook?
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And some pics with the cowls finally attached! I'm hoping to get more of the smaller details finished tomorrow.
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whodatschrome wrote: I got a bunch of stuff done on the scooter today... -tires and rusty wheels mounted. -side cowls adjusted and installed. -license plate bracket installed. -P200 helmet (luggage) hook installed. -rear brake reservoir attached to a mounting point. That plastic brake reservoir setup just won't do. Need to find some metal preferable aluminum. Maybe some SS braiding over plastic hose? Don't tell her but she has a wide butt with those fenders mounted. |
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*Spectacular wide butt, in my humble opinion.
How will you possibly opt to ride another after this is up and running? |
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