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Long story short, My LX150 got knocked over. Most of the damage is on the metal side panel, which is somewhat dented and has lots of fairly deep scratches. (see photo)

It was an attractive scooter, and I want to get it fixed. It is worth about $2K, so I don't want to spend more than that on repairs. It was hard ion Austin to even find a body shop guy who will work on bikes, most just said 'no'.

So...I found a guy who works on bikes and can fix it. His estimate was $700 to $1000, which is okay. He said he won't paint it on the bike, but he will remove the metal body and fix and paint it standalone.

So....he told me that I can save $300 if I do the mechanical work of removing the body and deliver just that to him. He said he never worked on a Vespa, but he thinks it would take him about 3 hours to disassemble and reassemble.

I would like to save the money, but is this a suckers bet? It kind of sounds interesting, and if it took me 6 hours to dis/reassemble that's fine, but will it take me 20? Or require some special skill or tools?
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That's your only damage? Find another bodyshop. There is no need to take apart the whole scooter to blend the one side panel.
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The problem is that the "panel" you're looking at is part of the frame. It can't actually be removed.

It really sucks, and it's a serious bummer, but I don't think most Vespa folks would consider that a huge amount of damage in the grand scheme of things. Taking care of larger dents in that area frequently requires dropping out the engine to do so. Most people don't bother, unless the bike has more sentimental value, or they just really like taking on the project.

Not saying it can't be done, it just might involve a lot more work than you expect. That's probably why you can't find anyone who wants to do it.
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I agree, find another body shop. You don't need to remove the fenders off a car paint them. I mean, I can understand where he is coming from, but it is too much work to remove everything. He just wants to paint the whole thing so he does not have to worry about a perfect paint match.
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Jimjar wrote:
Long story short, My LX150 got knocked over. Most of the damage is on the metal side panel, which is somewhat dented and has lots of fairly deep scratches. (see photo)

It was an attractive scooter, and I want to get it fixed. It is worth about $2K, so I don't want to spend more than that on repairs. It was hard ion Austin to even find a body shop guy who will work on bikes, most just said 'no'.

So...I found a guy who works on bikes and can fix it. His estimate was $700 to $1000, which is okay. He said he won't paint it on the bike, but he will remove the metal body and fix and paint it standalone.

So....he told me that I can save $300 if I do the mechanical work of removing the body and deliver just that to him. He said he never worked on a Vespa, but he thinks it would take him about 3 hours to disassemble and reassemble.

I would like to save the money, but is this a suckers bet? It kind of sounds interesting, and if it took me 6 hours to dis/reassemble that's fine, but will it take me 20? Or require some special skill or tools?
It's hard to look at your baby all scratched up, but clean up the scratches the best you can with rubbing and polishing compound and elbow grease, then get a nice graphic or two to cover up the worst of what remains. Vespas get scratched A LOT on their "flanks" and there are a million different graphics solutions to minimize the appearance. You might even be able to get a wrap shop to put custom wrap on both sides to match for way less than $1000. That's nuts. Plus, as others have mentioned, Vespa frames ARE their bodies, unlike Asian scooters, which are generally plastic covered step through motorcycles. There aren't that many body panels that come off, and certainly not the cowl areas of a Modern Vespa. Best of luck.
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And then there is the 2-tone idea for a different approach to repainting the cowls without a complete respray.
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Any bodyman who tells you to remove everything from the frame to fix a side panel is feeding you shit, and telling you it's chocolate pudding. Here is my friend's 2015. He went down at low speed on the right side. It put a slight dent in the metal and scratched the plastic bottom cowl. $825 to repair this. Took the shop two days. Is it 100% perfect? No. Go over it with a fine tooth comb, you'll find a booger or two. The paint blended well. Just like groundhog day without the hot chick.
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I wouldn't even bother getting that repaired. No it's banged up you'll never have to worry about another scratch or ding again.
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A way out if you want to go with the two toned look is vinyl wrap. It amazing what you can do with that stuff.
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