Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:12 pm

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Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:12 pm linkquote
2016 MP3 500

Can you guys tell me if it looks like I need a new rear tire? Bike has about 2,700 miles on it.

If so, what is the recommended tire for this bike. My main concern is it sticking to the road and not sliding out.

Also does anybody know the part name or number for this front bottom panel that i have some scrapes on? I want to get a replacement.

Thanks









Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:33 pm

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2016 Mp3 500ie Sport
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Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:33 pm linkquote
I would recommend to replace the tire. Get a cheap tyre gauge online, its inexpensive and will remove allot of the guess work on when to replace a tyre. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F5N55B0/

Mine is a 2016 Mp3 500ie sport which uses 140/70-14 (68S) to which I bought one of these to fit it. Very happy with the ride performance and traction. MICHELIN City Grip 2 Rear Scooter Tire - 140/70-14 (68S) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089DPSVT7/

For the front coach work plastic, its either parts 12, 13, or 15 on the diagram for a 2016 Piaggio Mp3 500ie Sport. Make sure you check exactly which variant (there are several) of the Mp3 you have and double check the color code.

https://www.parts-piaggio.com/piaggio-scooters/500-PIAGGIO-SCOOTER/MP3/2016/MP3-500-Sport-ABS-E3-E4/Frame--Plastic-parts--Coachwork/Front-shield/1218/24/10042/2718

Alternatively it looks like a very small scratch on the lower front of the bike. You might be able to get away with some automotive paint.

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Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:23 pm

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Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:23 pm linkquote
Not trying to be critical but that tire is well past the wear points and it is pretty obvious it is toast. Pirelli or Michelin make some good replacements. Good luck to you.
Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:42 am

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:42 am linkquote
501 wrote:
2016 MP3 500

Can you guys tell me if it looks like I need a new rear tire? Bike has about 2,700 miles on it.

Absolutely not. If it was a front tyre, I would agree with the comments above, but being a rear you can still get few more miles on it. But it looks like you are only using about 70% of the tread (central part mainly)...
Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:03 am

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:03 am linkquote
I used to have a totally bald as a knee rear tire and done about 1500 miles on it without any harm. It was a stock Michelin from a 2006 mp3 250, the one which does not last more than 3000 miles from totally fat until totally bald. But it was absolutely usable after the grooves were totally shaved-off. However I didn't ride in puddles after strong rain, maybe that saved my ass.

I don't recommend to be like me. I'm just telling that they can last longer than the grooves
Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:03 am

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:03 am linkquote
Motorcycle tires always wear more in the center since most of the acceleration and braking happens when the bike is upright. The wear on your tire looks pretty normal for average. Maybe a little over inflated.

Two things to consider.
1. Sure you can get more miles out of that but once you get past the wear bars the rubber in the center of the tire is very thin and gets weakened with every mile. If you are not concerned with a blowout at speed then keep on riding.

2. With very little tread left in the middle of the tire your road grip is compromised on anything but dry pavement. Even leaned over the water cannot push out towards the worn middle making the risk for breaking loose higher. Your stopping distance is also increased. If you are not concerned with the increased chance of the back end swapping places with the front end then keep on riding.

Here is a good about tire wear. https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/rm-rider-exchange/just-faqs-understanding-motorcycle-tire-wear/
Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:40 am

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:40 am linkquote
Agreed with all above - better earlier than too late. 2.7k miles seems low though, make sure you keep the right pressure. I got myself this little thing and it works like a charm:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZFQJQRV/
On the cosmetic front, it seems so hidden away that I think one of those paint repair kits is your friend.
Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:47 pm

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:47 pm linkquote
mileage is highly dependent on road surfaces. if the op has grainy roads the tires wear faster.

on tire choices to replace with
my #1 would be the city grip 2, I would also consider going to the next size larger 150/70-14

#2 michelin power pure has lots go grip but the only draw back is slightly less mileage than the city grip.

the city grip you currently have on is the first version for sure, the new city grip 2 has longer wear. Lots of folks ran them in this year scootercannonball with great success and mileages. The cannonball has a history of eating tires BTW.
Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:09 pm

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:09 pm linkquote
Yep. That Michelin City Grip has a good few safe miles of service left on it yet. Be thinking replacement @3500 miles.
I've been using these tires for several years.
O.S.
Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:17 pm

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Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:17 pm linkquote
Personally, I would change that tyre. It's well past its life. Part code is probably: 2B000693500NO. Why change it?? Bit pricey for a few scratches. Maybe get a bit of touch up paint??
Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:21 am

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Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:21 am linkquote
501 wrote:
2016 MP3 500

Bike has about 2,700 miles on it.

I don't understand why the tire has worn out so quickly. I drove about 10,000 miles before my wheel was worn to such an extent

TO Jah: You shouldn't risk your life like that, Boris ..... It's better to switch to the dark side ...
Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:09 am

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Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:09 am linkquote
^This X 10. I don't get how some people only get a few thousand out of a quality tire.

My current Michelin City Grip is nearing end of life after surpassing 17K km. The factory installed City Grip lasted 20K km. The front City Grips on mine are looking like they are going to go well past 20K km.

And no, I am not granny riding. Just daily commuting to/fro work about 50km each day over a variety of surfaces and speeds from freeway to broken/degraded pavements on small country roads.

I just drive sensibly. I don't brake hard, and I don't do burnouts. I just adjust my riding style and read the traffic ahead of me.

FWIW, I am still on my factory brake pads and the bike is sitting at near 50K on the clock.
Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:05 am

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Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:05 am linkquote
sbaert wrote:
^This X 10. I don't get how some people only get a few thousand out of a quality tire.

My current Michelin City Grip is nearing end of life after surpassing 17K km. The factory installed City Grip lasted 20K km. The front City Grips on mine are looking like they are going to go well past 20K km.

And no, I am not granny riding. Just daily commuting to/fro work about 50km each day over a variety of surfaces and speeds from freeway to broken/degraded pavements on small country roads.

I just drive sensibly. I don't brake hard, and I don't do burnouts. I just adjust my riding style and read the traffic ahead of me.

FWIW, I am still on my factory brake pads and the bike is sitting at near 50K on the clock.
I have explained this to you many times over the years.
why does F1 tires wear different at different tracks? why don't they just use 1 tire? why does the farmer whom only uses his tractor in the field almost never replace their tres versus the farmer who drives his tractor daily on roads to and from fields replace their tires every couple years? Why do folks who ride long distances replace their tires more frequently over the folks who only ride at slower speeds in cities?
Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:13 am

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Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:13 am linkquote
Bylead wrote:
TO Jah: You shouldn't risk your life like that, Boris ..... It's better to switch to the dark side ...
I did when I had 250cc one (12" Kama tire from Oka, you know). Now with 14" rear disk it is not so easy.
Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:18 am

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Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:18 am linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
mileage is highly dependent on road surfaces. if the op has grainy roads the tires wear faster.

on tire choices to replace with
my #1 would be the city grip 2, I would also consider going to the next size larger 150/70-14

#2 michelin power pure has lots go grip but the only draw back is slightly less mileage than the city grip.

the city grip you currently have on is the first version for sure, the new city grip 2 has longer wear. Lots of folks ran them in this year scootercannonball with great success and mileages. The cannonball has a history of eating tires BTW.
Thanks OAD! I will order the City Grip 2. Glad to see you still around, I remember your name from the first gen of MP3's. Had the first 250 in Michigan way back when.
Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:20 am

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Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:20 am linkquote
SaFiS wrote:
Personally, I would change that tyre. It's well past its life. Part code is probably: 2B000693500NO. Why change it?? Bit pricey for a few scratches. Maybe get a bit of touch up paint??
Going to change tire. Thanks for part code. I have never been able to touch up flat black to my satisfaction on any of my past car parts that is why I was wanting to change the plastic. Its literally the only defect on my scooter at all besides the scraped center stand.
Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:31 am

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Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:31 am linkquote
sbaert wrote:
^This X 10. I don't get how some people only get a few thousand out of a quality tire.

My current Michelin City Grip is nearing end of life after surpassing 17K km. The factory installed City Grip lasted 20K km. The front City Grips on mine are looking like they are going to go well past 20K km.

And no, I am not granny riding. Just daily commuting to/fro work about 50km each day over a variety of surfaces and speeds from freeway to broken/degraded pavements on small country roads.

I just drive sensibly. I don't brake hard, and I don't do burnouts. I just adjust my riding style and read the traffic ahead of me.

FWIW, I am still on my factory brake pads and the bike is sitting at near 50K on the clock.
I realize you are not from the US or fun at parties (from your same exact post on every rear tire thread on this forum), but most of my riding is inner city Michigan roads, which are some of the worst in the US (although I am sure from your other posts not nearly as bad as your cash strapped roads where you are). While I don't drive dangerously, I do drive WOT anytime I can, including between short inner city blocks. I do brake hard and often.

Here is an example of a street I ride down almost daily when I am in Michigan. This is how many of our streets are in the inner cities in Michigan.



Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:54 pm

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Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:54 pm linkquote
Jah wrote:
I did when I had 250cc one (12" Kama tire from Oka, you know). Now with 14" rear disk it is not so easy.
I once tried to install myself a 155 \ 65 R14 tire. But I failed. However, I plan to come back to this question ....
Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:06 am

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Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:06 am linkquote
I've been on and around bikes my whole life, and you guys think that a couple of thousand clicks out of a tire is normal? Yeah right, keep thinking that.

I could see something as low as around 5-6K in extreme conditions, but 2-3K? Nah
Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:19 am

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Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:19 am linkquote
sbaert wrote:
I've been on and around bikes my whole life, and you guys think that a couple of thousand clicks out of a tire is normal? Yeah right, keep thinking that.

I could see something as low as around 5-6K in extreme conditions, but 2-3K? Nah
OAD learned to ride before he could walk.

I guess I am at a loss to what you are trying to say then. Are you saying he is lying about how many miles are on that tire? Are you saying that he is doing something to cause the tire to wear at an abnormally high rate? What is your point?

Tires wear at varying rates depending on a number of factors. I usually get about 7-8 thousand miles on my 500 rear tire before I hit the wear bars. Is that abnormal as well?
Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:35 am

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Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:35 am linkquote
sbaert wrote:
I've been on and around bikes my whole life, and you guys think that a couple of thousand clicks out of a tire is normal? Yeah right, keep thinking that.

I could see something as low as around 5-6K in extreme conditions, but 2-3K? Nah
I was totally surprised when my rear tire was totally worn down at about 4k miles, always got better mileage even when I had sportier rubber on a bike with 3 times the horsepower of the MP3. Will be curious about how long the new one lasts. I do adjust pressure once a week or so (low tire pressure is a total mileage killer).

Most importantly though is to make sure. one rides on tires in very good shape. That contact patch is crucial. Every once in a while we may get tires that are out of spec and wear faster.
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