Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:41 am

Hooked
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
Posts: 470
Location: Michigan
 
Hooked
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
Posts: 470
Location: Michigan
Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:41 am linkquote
Hey guys,

I just ordered a rear tire to have replaced on my MP3 500. When it comes in next week I will have my 3,000 mile maintenance done at the same time.

Anythings I should be aware of? Things to have the maintenance crew look out for or check that they may not know about if they don't work on MP3's often?

I remember some years back (2018) when I was reading over the forums before I bought the bike about some issues with a notch? and something to watch for with the oil reservoir?

I can't remember if these were problems with the first generation bikes (2007-2010ish) or the newer ones.

Just want to be prepared when I drop it off. It is an official Piaggio dealer (along with Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki) but I am sure MP3's are very rarely in here for service.

Thanks guys!
Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:42 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 21943
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 21943
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:42 am linkquote
yes they need to grease the steering bearings. I believe its part of the maintenance check list items now.

you should have the newest owners manual and there should be a service check list item towards the back of it. just double check the list.
Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:48 am

Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
 
Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:48 am linkquote
Actually my 2019 doesn't mention the steering bearings in *any* of the services (attached page 199-200 from the manual) unless I am missing something. Weird.

The 3k (mile) service is basically just an inspection plus center stand lubrication.


p. 199


p. 200

Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:31 am

Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
 
Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:31 am linkquote
Bumping this up - does this mean the greasing of the front bearings is not necessary in the newer models? I bought the "tool" for greasing them (it's only 30 bucks, so no harm done), but now wonder whether the procedure may do more harm than good on a newer MP3 500 model (since it's not in the manual)? Thanks!
Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:48 pm

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2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 572
Location: Belgium
 
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2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 572
Location: Belgium
Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:48 pm linkquote
Greasing of the front bearings is part of the initial 1K service which includes checking the tightness on said bearings.

After that, the bearings need to be regreased at least every 10K km (6K mi) at a minimum.

I do mine with every oil change every 3K mi (5K km)

Unfortunately, Piaggio does not mention anything about the bearings other than the initial 1K service check up despite said bearing being the Achilles heel of the entire bike.
Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:40 am

Member
Piaggio MP3 300 HPE
Joined: 22 Aug 2020
Posts: 40
Location: Croydon
 
Member
Piaggio MP3 300 HPE
Joined: 22 Aug 2020
Posts: 40
Location: Croydon
Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:40 am linkquote
sbaert wrote:
Greasing of the front bearings is part of the initial 1K service which includes checking the tightness on said bearings.

This was not the case at my 1k. I was told that if I wanted the bearings greasing, they would have to remove the fairings and that would be $$$. It was not part of the standard service, so they led me to believe for the 2020 300 HPE.

I'm on 2.5k, bought the tool, and now need the torque wrench and grease gun.
Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
 
Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:58 pm linkquote
Previous owner of mine said the 600 mile service included it. Supposedly it's standard at that official shop, even though the greasing of the bearings is only mentioned in a 2012 technical bulletin (attached), which mentions:

".. need for lubrication is particularly evident when the vehicles are used during the winter,
on roads that are wet or covered with sand and salt.
These conditions of use can result in a loss of lubrication.
The presence of grease is needed to lubricate the bearings and to ensure a protective shield
against environmental effects such as water, salt and dust; the grease therefore integrates
the activities of the dust gaiters. .."

But it does not mention how often or at which intervals it should be performed. There are also internet claims that the bearing issues were fixed in 2015 or so. It's all rather confusing.

That said, I'll ask for it to be done again at the 6.2k mile service in a few weeks. I believe in safe rather than sorry. Even though we don't get snow and salty conditions here.

PS: What does "the grease integrates the activities of the dust gaiters" even mean??

3_wheel_grease_tool_81599.pdf
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Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:42 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2012 Honda NC700 DCT, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT
Joined: 02 Mar 2013
Posts: 6784
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2012 Honda NC700 DCT, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT
Joined: 02 Mar 2013
Posts: 6784
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:42 pm linkquote
I have greased my steering bearings a total of 5 times in 7 years, ~46,000 miles.
Just one data point is all. Also to indicate, it isn't just a one-time thing.
Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:07 pm

Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
 
Hooked
2019 MP3 500 Sport
Joined: 26 Sep 2012
Posts: 109
Location: California
Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:07 pm linkquote
Madison Sully wrote:
I have greased my steering bearings a total of 5 times in 7 years, ~46,000 miles.
Just one data point is all. Also to indicate, it isn't just a one-time thing.
Seems to approximately keep up with the 6k mile standard. If you don't mind me asking - what year is your MP3? And does it really require to take the bodywork off? Some YouTube videos indicate it may not?
Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:43 am

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2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 572
Location: Belgium
 
Addicted
2015 MP3 500 ie Business
Joined: 29 Oct 2019
Posts: 572
Location: Belgium
Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:43 am linkquote
I have never removed any of the Tupperware to get to the 4 bolts.

Driving one wheel up on a ramp (tall enough) gives access to the upper bolt. Repeat for other side.
Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:05 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2012 Honda NC700 DCT, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT
Joined: 02 Mar 2013
Posts: 6784
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2012 Honda NC700 DCT, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT
Joined: 02 Mar 2013
Posts: 6784
Location: Madison, Wisconsin
Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:05 am linkquote
PabloLie wrote:
Seems to approximately keep up with the 6k mile standard. If you don't mind me asking - what year is your MP3? And does it really require to take the bodywork off? Some YouTube videos indicate it may not?
2008. Has a pretty open front end to allow greasing without removing panels.
Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:08 am

Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:08 am linkquote
Indeed you're not obligated to remove any of the bodywork. But in this case you should use something to lift one wheel (the opposite of the one you're working at). For example, I did it this way: I took some bricks and put a wooden plank over it. Then I pushed mp3 so it gets one wheel on the bricks, another stays on ground. Then I blocked the suspension and asked a friend to keep my bike safe when I worked with bearings.
Fully "unfolded" suspension (protruded to full length) is totally enough to fill it with grease w/o removing any of the tupperware.

Sorry if I explained not so clearly... I'm not truly a native speaker
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