Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:18 am

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Can Am Spyder RT
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Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:18 am linkquote
I am going to Europe in April and want to buy a MP3 there to leave there. I had a two wheel motorcycle I left in Ireland and rode all around Europe for three months each time for three years. But it was too heavy and got rid of it last year. I have a Can Am Spyder RT I ride here in the US. I am looking to buying a Piaggio mp3 400 or mp3 500. What are the differences other than more power on the 500? I ride mostly in the Alps in Europe. Would the 400 work there ok? The 500? I am a very conservative ride. Thx for any suggestions and info.
Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:03 am

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2015 MP3 500 ie Business
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Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:03 am linkquote
If you plan to do mountain riding, then you want the 500.

It is a heavy bike, and up in the mountains you will lose power due to thinner air.

The 400 is a fine machine better suited to urban use.
Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 am

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Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 am linkquote
Your comment that you sold the bike you had in Europe because it was heavy is a bit of a concern. I found the MP3 to be a very heavy bike. Not Goldwing heavy but still a big heavy beast.

Perhaps you could get a dealer to let you handle one a bit in a parking lot with the tilt lock off.
Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:17 am

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Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:17 am linkquote
Looks like less than a 10 HP difference. Couldn't find the weights on the Piaggio spec sheets online. As stated the MP3 500 is a heavy beast and kind of underwhelming in performance. My wife's GTS 300 smokes it street light to street light. Ive owned a Can Am as well and they are nothing alike. The balance/stability required for the MP3 is the same as any two wheel bike. You should test ride before buying. I just swapped out for a Yamaha Tracer 9 GT- 114hp and 100lbs less than my old MP3.
Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:25 am

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MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
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MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
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Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:25 am linkquote
Either would be fine even in mountains. The advice to test ride one before you purchase is good advice.
Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:02 am

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Can Am Spyder RT
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Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:02 am linkquote
Thanks for all of the info and advice. My old bike was a Honda Varadero 1000. Was very top heavy to start with and by the time I got all of my gear on there it weighed in about 750 lbs. I will try and find a Dealer to try one out. I am a very conservative rider and don't need anything fast. I will be trying to register this in Europe as I will be leaving stored someplace to ride whenever I come back to Europe. Do these bikes resale ok? Thanks again. Nick
Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:30 am

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MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
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Location: Nashville, Indiana
 
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MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
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Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:30 am linkquote
Yardageman wrote:
Do these bikes resale ok? Thanks again. Nick
Not in the US but I would imagine there is a better market in Europe.
Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:42 am

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Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:42 am linkquote
Yardageman wrote:
Thanks for all of the info and advice. My old bike was a Honda Varadero 1000. Was very top heavy to start with and by the time I got all of my gear on there it weighed in about 750 lbs. I will try and find a Dealer to try one out. I am a very conservative rider and don't need anything fast. I will be trying to register this in Europe as I will be leaving stored someplace to ride whenever I come back to Europe. Do these bikes resale ok? Thanks again. Nick
It's definitely worth more in Europe vs. US. It's an oddity here and they are a relatively complicated machine. If you are not the DIY type I would purchase a transferable warranty- will help with resale as well.
Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:16 am

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Can Am Spyder RT
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Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:16 am linkquote
Ok. Thx
Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:01 am

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In garage: Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956
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Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:01 am linkquote
You forgot to mention that the latest MP3 500 model also has reverse gear.
Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:07 am

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Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:07 am linkquote
I have owned the 400 and now ride a 500. There is a significant, though not huge, difference in power. For a conservative rider, either is fine.

The MP3 is heavy. The "wet weight" of the 500 Sport is 621 pounds. However, it doesn't feel that heavy when it's moving, and when you are stopped, you can activate the tilt lock and just roll it around "like a shopping cart".

It is NOT anything like a Can Am Spyder! By all means see if you can test ride one before making a decision.
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