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I sometimes will put my Liberty up on the stand while seated, which allows me to exit on the right instead of the left, which is easier in certain situations

I roll backwards, while my left foot pushes down enough to cause the stand bite
Bonus points for doing the maneuver without banging your helmet on the windshield

Anyone else?
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Neat trick
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Or get a non-US X9 500. They had/have a hydraulically operated centre-stand. You had to have the engine running, and there were all sorts of other interlocks which in the fine tradition of Italian electrics caused no end of problems. Most of us just bypassed them all of course...
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Be careful to do that maneuver while standing above the saddle, the ground must be perfectly flat and rough.
If you slip or there is a lateral tilt, you risk overturning to the side.
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Be careful to do that maneuver while standing above the saddle, the ground must be perfectly flat and rough.
If you slip or there is a lateral tilt, you risk overturning to the side.
"Be careful to do that maneuver while standing above the saddle"

Would that be the Indian Larry version?
Indian Larry was standing on the moving bike when it began to wobble and went out of control
https://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/indian-larry-dies-from-head-injuries.10362/
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I have seen this maneuver done several times and several times it did not go well ... I only say to be careful and not to not forbid.
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Darwinism prevails...

Hopefully previously 'stupid' people will learn their lessons and become 'aware' of their surroundings.

A centre stand isn't difficult, and yes, it can be done very safely while still astride the bike.
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The trick worked on chinese sccoters too, the stand on a tao tao was mounted further forward, which made the push down part easier
After downsizing from a ranch on a dirt road to an apartment with underground parking I kept insisting my wife should park [tao tao] on the centerstand here in our parking garage, I finally took her to prove she could do it
The very next day, she parked with the sidestand not quite down, the scooter fell over, taking her with it & breaking her leg slightly :O
Every once in a while I ask her if she wants a sidestand on her Liberty...

When I had a big burg, I wanted to install a 2 stage centerstand off I think it was a Kawasaki voyager touring bike
One lever locked the stand down, a second raised the bike up off the ground
In the end I modified the parking spot with a chunk of 1 inch thick stallmat under the rear tire which greatly reduced the effort to get the thing on the center stand
I also kept a couple of 1 foot squares of stallmat strategically placed in the dirt driveway, so I could use the side stand while I opened the gate

I had a K1000lt bmw, which had a rubber covered handle/footpeg that popped out as a hand hold for getting it up on the centerstand
The handle was low enough to be useful

Both of the italian versions of centerstands I own are of good design, the lever & it's position are easy to use, like any centerstand it's the 1st thing to grind
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I know a guy who starts up his scoot on the center stand, then rocks his body back (to get the rear wheel on the ground) then hits the gas. Never saw anyone else do that, but it works for him.
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I know a guy who starts up his scoot on the center stand, then rocks his body back (to get the rear wheel on the ground) then hits the gas. Never saw anyone else do that, but it works for him.
That's how I was taught to start. Do other folks do it differently?
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I know a guy who starts up his scoot on the center stand, then rocks his body back (to get the rear wheel on the ground) then hits the gas. Never saw anyone else do that, but it works for him.
... then he signs up with MV to complain about the breakage of the central stand ...
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I know a guy who starts up his scoot on the center stand, then rocks his body back (to get the rear wheel on the ground) then hits the gas. Never saw anyone else do that, but it works for him.
That was the only way to get off the centre stand with the PX... I still do that with the GTS.. Force of habit I guess...

Is not very hard to do once you master the timing with leaning back, pull on the handlebar a bit and accelerate. A bit harder to achieve with the traction control on..

Note:

It will eventually damage the centre stand, especially if you don't manage to get off, at the first try as the stand goes back hard and is not just the weight of the scooter...

I would say in Italy the majority of Vespisti still do it...

Another common thing was doing wheelie while changing between first and second gear. You had to pull the front brake at the same time to get some help from the front shock. That was with standard engines...
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Launching off the centerstand for burnout or wheelie is the advanced version far easier with a clutch, though a handbrake is easier to drag with precision

Rocking a big bike/scooter off the stand with a passenger is best with helmets to avoid TBI, sometimes a small adjustment to the height & shape of feet/pads or position when locked can ease the operation

I keep seeing references here to centerstands not being capable of carrying the weight of more than just the scooter or impending doom transporting on the stand?

I have seen centerstands crack a weld or have the tips ground off/mangled
I have seen a centerstand bolt be a bit bent, if it's one long bolt & not so hilarious hyjinks ensue trying to remove long bolts that go through motor case
I suppose a Vespa with a unibody might be different than something with a tube frame
I have seen older scooters that have what looks like 1/2" thin wall conduit for a center stand...


When transporting I prefer to have the bike up on the centerstand, pound a stack of boards under the back tire to keep the front down & the rear suspension taking part of the load
On a bike with forks, I add an eyelet to one of the fork clamp bolts for front tiedowns
The eyelet is 1"x 3/16" flat ss, with a couple of holes drilled
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Syd wrote:
I know a guy who starts up his scoot on the center stand, then rocks his body back (to get the rear wheel on the ground) then hits the gas. Never saw anyone else do that, but it works for him.
A lot of older guys who used to ride old british bikes do this. That was the way back in the day. I have a customer who's a cool old cat with a Triumph Bonneville. Sat on his bike, did a weird jumpy hippy thrusty thingy. He's been over a few times. It's the only time I've ever seen the old timer move quickly.

I had him teach me. It's entirely inefficient and unnecessary, but he said it was the hip thing to do among his crowd back in the day. I like that he keeps it alive.
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I have seen centerstands crack a weld or have the tips ground off/mangled
I have seen a centerstand bolt be a bit bent, if it's one long bolt & not so hilarious hyjinks ensue trying to remove long bolts that go through motor case
I suppose a Vespa with a unibody might be different than something with a tube frame
I have seen older scooters that have what looks like 1/2" thin wall conduit for a center stand...

I've seen the engine case break at the center stand. Mostly on smaller bikes repeatedly ridden off the stand by over capacity riders.
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Indian Larry was standing on the moving bike when it began to wobble and went out of control
https://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/indian-larry-dies-from-head-injuries.10362/
"Indian Larry was a man with great skill and talent as a mechanic and metal sculptor"

Not so hot with riding skills...
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Syd wrote:
I know a guy who starts up his scoot on the center stand, then rocks his body back (to get the rear wheel on the ground) then hits the gas. Never saw anyone else do that, but it works for him.
On my old Vespa 160GS from 1962 - 1963, I am not sure, that was the standard Italian way.
In the old Vespa standing on the center stand (it only had a center stand) the rear wheel was on the ground.
So you step on the scooter, set the ignition and the choke on, kickstart the engine, then switch to first gear and hit the gas.
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