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I'm thinking of buying a used Vespa, but there's only one dealership in my area. If this should close, am I in big trouble? I have a Kymco but no one will work on it, EVEN THE KYMCO DEALER IN MY AREA! They say it's more than 10 years old so they won't service it. Do Vespa dealerships try the same thing? If so, I might not risk it.
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Yes they are. No they aren't. Both answers are right.

It's going to depend entirely on YOUR dealer. I just got a comment on my youtube channel where I help riders out from someone who said their Vespa dealer couldn't even tell them how to accurately check the oil level on their 125cc Vespa so they were asking me.

At the same time, one of the Vespa dealers in San Diego does more for the Vespa community than just about anyone else out there.

Long story short, there is no right answer. Ask local riders about the reputation of the dealer near you, and what the character of the owners is like.
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adri wrote:
Yes they are. No they aren't. Both answers are right.

It's going to depend entirely on YOUR dealer. I just got a comment on my youtube channel where I help riders out from someone who said their Vespa dealer couldn't even tell them how to accurately check the oil level on their 125cc Vespa so they were asking me.

At the same time, one of the Vespa dealers in San Diego does more for the Vespa community than just about anyone else out there.

Long story short, there is no right answer. Ask local riders about the reputation of the dealer near you, and what the character of the owners is like.
Right on the money!
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Despite what you read on the internet, servicing a scooter isn't rocket surgery. Well, except for that one scooter named Rocket of course.
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znomit wrote:
Despite what you read on the internet, servicing a scooter isn't rocket surgery. Well, except for that one scooter named Rocket of course.
It isn't brain science, either.
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BillT wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a used Vespa, but there's only one dealership in my area. If this should close, am I in big trouble? I have a Kymco but no one will work on it, EVEN THE KYMCO DEALER IN MY AREA! They say it's more than 10 years old so they won't service it. Do Vespa dealerships try the same thing? If so, I might not risk it.
I think the vehicle reliability is far more important than a dealer...

Perhaps here in Australia we use the terminology differently, but you need a good mechanic, not a dealer... Someone you know and that you can trust...

I don't believe if you have a ten years old Vespa, you will get a service negated from most mechanics that do deal in small motorcycle and/or scooters...

Do you have any friends that do ride motorcycles?? That would be my first port of call..
Do you want to learn to change a spark plug, oil, filter and a belt? That could be fun as well...

If I had to ride a vehicle here based on either the dealer reputation or availability, I would be still riding a horse...

Finally, don't forget. There are plenty of people here ready to help as well...
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znomit wrote:
Despite what you read on the internet, servicing a scooter isn't rocket surgery. Well, except for that one scooter named Rocket of course.
Don't be afraid to give service and repair a try for yourself. It is half the fun of owning a machine of any type.

You can post photos and ask questions here - after full measures of both ridicule and encouragement, you will get the help you need. Essentially the same drill as fixing your car with your high school buddies…

Be sure to find the reliable sources of parts.

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My local has been servicing Vespas soccer 1956.

When i take my Supertech in for a service there is anything from a new HPE being prepped for sale to a vintage Vespa being restored to its former glory.

The shop is called Vespa House - they're a specialist. Does your dealer consider Vespas essential to their business?
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znomit wrote:
Despite what you read on the internet, servicing a scooter isn't rocket surgery. Well, except for that one scooter named Rocket of course.
Speaking of Rocket.

The first time it went to the dealer for service, it came home with the oil drain plug over tightened.

I found out on the next oil change when the engine side threads came out with the plug.

And it went to a dealer after the 2014 SCR. That mechanic didn't know what he was doing, creating a throttle disruption and under tightening the variator nut (it came loose 1000 miles later while riding in North Georgia)

Other than those two mistakes, it was cared for by two great mechanics.

Boris Loose until he moved to Sanford and Chris Alley until he recently retired.

I trusted them with all of my scooters implicitly.

I will now take Rocket to Chris' former partner, Alex, when needed, but it is running well, not needing service.

I do the basics myself. Oil, belt and tire services.

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My local has been servicing Vespas soccer 1956.

When i take my Supertech in for a service there is anything from a new HPE being prepped for sale to a vintage Vespa being restored to its former glory.

The shop is called Vespa House - they're a specialist. Does your dealer consider Vespas essential to their business?
I think you are very lucky and probably in the minority amongst MV members in having a dedicated Vespa dealer close by.

Most of the dedicated Vespa/Lambretta dealers in the UK went out of business years ago. Here's a newspaper ad from my local dealer who closed a long time ago.
Wall & Sagar, Lancaster.
Wall & Sagar, Lancaster.
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Touring300 wrote:
Here's a newspaper ad from my local dealer who closed a long time ago.
4 digit phone numbers ... :hug:
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BillT wrote:
Do Vespa dealerships try the same thing? If so, I might not risk it.
Are all doctors reliable? Are all insurance agents reliable? Are all brothers-in-law reliable?

You probably won't find useful answers to any of those questions here, or anywhere.

If you want to know what your local Piaggio/Vespa dealer can/will do, you should probably just ask him.
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One that's been around for a long time can't be screwing everybody. And, if they weren't making money they wouldn't be in business.
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The problem with service in the U.S., at least where I live, is that Vespa is a niche market. Thus, there aren't that many independent mechanics (or even dealers) with lots of experience working on Vespas. NYC and Boston are close to me, but I don't want to drive 2 hours for service or repairs. I had a negative experience with a local independent shop because they didn't really know the brand well enough to fix my issues. One dealer in the area misdiagnosed a starting issue, and another local dealer admitted to not having enough experience to fix the issue (at the time they were new to the Vespa brand). Another dealer in the area closed. Now I do services and repairs myself. I let a local shop mount/balance tires, but I take the tires/rims off and give them over to the shop for the tire removal and remounting. My newer 2018 GTS has been wonderfully reliable, so routine service is all it has needed.
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I live in an area where scooters are quite common, but that does not mean there are many dealers available.
I am a bit lucky with my Beverly that the most nearby Piaggio dealer is only 7 km away. The next one is 2 - 3hrs of driving away.

And then it is as rottekatz is saying: a dealer that is there already for many years cannot be a total crook. Mine is there for as long as I live here in the area. At least 30 years.
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A Piaggio/Vespa dealer that doesn't carry other brands, probably is OK
They seem to be saying the right things
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