Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:53 am

Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
 
Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:53 am linkquote
Actually $2,000.00. Its a 2007 250 with under 5000 miles and in like new condition. The kicker is it was for sale right here in my little town of Nashville, IN. Now I have one that is ridable, one I am fixing and one I have decommissioned. My bike barn is filling up. The Givi top case is brand new complete with lights.

Thanks to hollybry for tipping me off on it.






Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:08 pm

Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:08 pm linkquote
Hey John! Wasn't it you who said "I'm getting rid of mp3s and won't go back"?

Good for you. I had exactly the same model and loved it even more than my current 400cc. With Dr.Pulleys it was just incredibly smooth and quick on starts and pretty lighter than 400 one.
Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:11 pm

Member
MP3
Joined: 12 Dec 2020
Posts: 36
Location: Sydney Australia
 
Member
MP3
Joined: 12 Dec 2020
Posts: 36
Location: Sydney Australia
Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:11 pm linkquote
I need a 500cc in SoCal as I can finally get back to Los Angeles

My 400cc is waiting but want a 500cc now

Been locked out for over 2 years
Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:57 am

Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
 
Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:57 am linkquote
Jah wrote:
Hey John! Wasn't it you who said "I'm getting rid of mp3s and won't go back"?

Good for you. I had exactly the same model and loved it even more than my current 400cc. With Dr.Pulleys it was just incredibly smooth and quick on starts and pretty lighter than 400 one.
Nope wasn't me. I did consider getting a different kind but Jess made me an offer I couldn't refuse on his 500 then this deal came up so I am all MP3 all the time.
Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:06 am

Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
 
Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:06 am linkquote
You can turn a400 in to a 500 very easy just change the cylinder and it becomes a 486cc with 41 HP

its also possible to change a 250 into a 400/500 its need some more then a cableharness, throttle body and a swing arm + mounting brackets for the frame
Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:16 am

Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
 
Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:16 am linkquote
Got it registered today so since the temps are nice I went for a little ride. Also, added the pegs.


West gate of Brown County State Park.


These make all the difference.

Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:24 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 21943
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 21943
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:24 pm linkquote
bet your glad you didn't sell those brackets
Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:09 pm

Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:09 pm linkquote
stickyfrog wrote:
Nope wasn't me. I did consider getting a different kind but Jess made me an offer I couldn't refuse on his 500 then this deal came up so I am all MP3 all the time.
Aaah, misunderstood this https://modernvespa.com/forum/post2505288#2505288

Anyway, I'm selling all my stuff now (but noone buys), but if somebody offered me 250cc mp3 in a good condition, I'd probably take it.

Luckily, there's no any single mp3 in about 1000 miles around me. And only one Small Beo'400, but I'm not a big fan of those.
Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:13 pm

Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:13 pm linkquote
Maksor wrote:
You can turn a400 in to a 500 very easy just change the cylinder and it becomes a 486cc with 41 HP
But the combustion chamber's volume is larger, thus the mixture will be leaner. Those things do not have a mass airflow sensors, so the ECU does not "know" it should add more fuel.
Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:08 pm

Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
 
Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:08 pm linkquote
it will learn it self
Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:30 pm

Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:30 pm linkquote
Nope, it won't. Lambda probe works only on middle revs.
Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:14 am

Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
 
Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:14 am linkquote
it will, i have done it dozen of times even tested it on a dyno a stock 400 has 23.7 hp on the rear wheel a 486cc 34.x hp a stock Fuoco 500 (492cc) 34.6 hp and the mapping of a 400 and 500 are the same

You can get more out of it about 48 HP max by chiptuning but then engine will last half a year the head will crack
Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:09 am

Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:09 am linkquote
Well, if the maps are the same, that means that either 500cc works lean or 400cc works rich. There's no third option, because that means that they get different amounts of air per same amount of fuel.
Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:04 am

Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
 
Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:04 am linkquote
different injector
Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:10 pm

Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
 
Hooked
50cc Beo, MP3 400 2012, BigBeo 2003
Joined: 30 May 2015
Posts: 368
Location: Chelyabinsk, Russia
Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:10 pm linkquote
Nope, both 400 and 500'2011 use 8720235. But the ECUs are different (504680/CM078510 for 400cc, CM085503 for 500cc), and given they're the same by hardware, their only difference is firmware.
Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:28 am

Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
 
Ossessionato
Gilera Fuoco 500ie
Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 4330
Location: Netherlands Olst
Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:28 am linkquote
see new post don't want to overtake sticky's thread

Should we delete uor post here ?

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Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:50 am

Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
 
Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:50 am linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
bet your glad you didn't sell those brackets
Actually those came off Jess's 500. I still have another set. I will move the full floorboard ones from my old 500 to the one I got from Jess once I get it back on the road. I am in the middle of some renovation projects at the house so that project is on hold for awhile unfortunately.
Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:55 pm

Member
Waiting
Joined: 01 Dec 2021
Posts: 11
Location: Alberta Canada
 
Member
Waiting
Joined: 01 Dec 2021
Posts: 11
Location: Alberta Canada
Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:55 pm linkquote
stickyfrog wrote:
Got it registered today so since the temps are nice I went for a little ride. Also, added the pegs.
Where can those pegs/bracket be purchased
Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:44 am

Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
 
Moderatus Rana
MP3 250 and 2 MP3 500s
Joined: 11 Jul 2008
Posts: 22168
Location: Nashville, Indiana
Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:44 am linkquote
Night_Wolf wrote:
Where can those pegs/bracket be purchased
Right now nowhere. OAD had a few runs of them made but he's not doing them anymore.
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