Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:19 pm

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Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:19 pm linkquote
I just got this 2004 Yamaha Zuma and was wondering if this 2-Stroke oil would work . If not do you think there is anything better? The manual is just very vauge and I have no idea the best choice would be. Thanks


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Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:39 pm

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Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:39 pm linkquote
Oh dear I think you will get much debate on the topic of oil
I myself always go for fully synthetic 2T oil and around here I tend to find Putoline at a reasonable price point.
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:02 pm

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Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:02 pm linkquote
Greetings:

Outboard engines are liquid-cooled. Zumas run forced air, with a lot more temperature variation. Oils formulated for one may not be ideal for the other. Ya takes ya chances. For the price of a gallon of oil, I'd go with whatever Yamaha/Minarelli recommends.
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:33 pm

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Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:33 pm linkquote
grahamlml wrote:
Oh dear I think you will get much debate on the topic of oil
I myself always go for fully synthetic 2T oil and around here I tend to find Putoline at a reasonable price point.
Yea I see everyone has opinonions on whats best and Im just here looking for something that will work lol. Thanks for the response, Ill see if i can find that anywhere.
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:36 pm

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Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:36 pm linkquote
Wheelman-111 wrote:
Greetings:

Outboard engines are liquid-cooled. Zumas run forced air, with a lot more temperature variation. Oils formulated for one may not be ideal for the other. Ya takes ya chances. For the price of a gallon of oil, I'd go with whatever Yamaha/Minarelli recommends.
I see that on the back of the discription it says that it can run with vehicles that are both liquid and air cooled. Is that something that they just throw on the bottle or?
Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:02 pm

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Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:02 pm linkquote
ScooterRabbit wrote:
I just got this 2004 Yamaha Zuma and was wondering if this 2-Stroke oil would work . If not do you think there is anything better? The manual is just very vauge and I have no idea the best choice would be. Thanks
Yes... It will be fine...
Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:03 pm

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Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:03 pm linkquote
Something people don't usually notice is that two stroke oils have grades, just like four stroke oils. It's not common to see it on the label though.
Marine oils tend to be thinner than the oils for air cooled engines, because marine engines tend to operate at lower temperatures.
Most of the high end racing two stroke motorcycle oils are 40 weight. Kawasaki two stroke oil is the only conventional oil that I know of that is 40 weight. Most two stroke oils are 20 or 30, which is fine for most applications.
You can use this oil in your scooter, and it will perform adequately. There are better choices out there, though. If you are going to be running your scooter wide open for miles on end, you would probably be better served using an oil designed specifically for motorcycles and scooters with an injection system. Jaso FC is the designation preferred for motorcycle and scooter engines. Lower rated oils will, over time, cause carbon to build up and block the exhaust port, affecting performance.
Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:46 pm

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Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:46 pm linkquote
Motul has always made good oils for scooters.



Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:05 am

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Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:05 am linkquote
Service manual (I think):
https://www.49ccscoot.com/manuals/Yamaha_BWS_Zuma_50_2T_Service_Manual.pdf

Manual says EG-C or EG-D grade, whatever that means… I've never owned a two stroke scooter and have always just used the OEM stuff in our 2 stroke yard equipment. If you are concerned, get the Motul oil or search for something with those specs. If not, roll the dice.
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