Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:13:53 +0000

Molto Verboso
Dongfang 170cc, CF Moto Fashion 250
Joined: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:09:48 +0000
Posts: 1683
Location: Hyde Park, New York
 
Molto Verboso
Dongfang 170cc, CF Moto Fashion 250
Joined: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:09:48 +0000
Posts: 1683
Location: Hyde Park, New York
Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:56:37 +0000

Hooked
2020 piaggio liberty 150 2006 Piaggio BV 250 carbureted
Joined: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 02:14:49 +0000
Posts: 303
Location: Reno Nevada
 
Hooked
2020 piaggio liberty 150 2006 Piaggio BV 250 carbureted
Joined: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 02:14:49 +0000
Posts: 303
Location: Reno Nevada
Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:56:37 +0000 linkquote
Can confirm, the guy I bought my used liberty 150 from was getting a high dollar mountain ebike after selling the scooter. He said it was too much work to ride a regular bicycle home up the hill but with the ebike it would make the hill climb easier and faster and he would still get some exercise.

I am glad to have the scooter at a discount and it is much better than driving something less fuel efficient at saving the planet.

Can't wait for the price to come down on the used ebikes so I get to try one and I suspect it won't be long as they make rapid advances in the near future.
Mon, 21 Feb 2022 20:31:48 +0000

Ossessionato
2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP), 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
Joined: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:25:54 +0000
Posts: 3770
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
 
Ossessionato
2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP), 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
Joined: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:25:54 +0000
Posts: 3770
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
Mon, 21 Feb 2022 20:31:48 +0000 linkquote
One of the lovely things about my scoot (previously Melody, soon Thelonica) is how it goes almost seamlessly from highway cruiser to nimble in-traffic-threader: a "first-to-last-mile" solution for me, not requiring ancillary assistance. That said, there is one modern e-riding vehicle that truly fascinated me, probably because, among other things, I was a big fan of the B.C. comic strip as a kid.

Otherwise: Once I park the bike, I'd just as soon walk.


Look, Ma, No Hands: Yep, this has above-average appeal to me.

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 21:27:36 +0000

Enthusiast
Piaggio BV-500, Yamaha Majesty, Honda Helix Sidecar Rig
Joined: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:44:07 +0000
Posts: 53
Location: Tucson, AZ
 
Enthusiast
Piaggio BV-500, Yamaha Majesty, Honda Helix Sidecar Rig
Joined: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 22:44:07 +0000
Posts: 53
Location: Tucson, AZ
Mon, 21 Feb 2022 21:27:36 +0000 linkquote
I was considering an e-bike but "Holy Cow!" are they expensive. Very few of my scooters have cost me what an average e-bike would.

Howard
Mon, 21 Feb 2022 22:04:47 +0000

Hooked
2007 Vespa 250 GTS
Joined: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 01:58:48 +0000
Posts: 293
Location: Nashville, Tn
 
Hooked
2007 Vespa 250 GTS
Joined: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 01:58:48 +0000
Posts: 293
Location: Nashville, Tn
Mon, 21 Feb 2022 22:04:47 +0000 linkquote
Expensive s the right word for sure, I have a really great Haibike 5.0 All Mountain which is a very capable electric mountain bike which I got used for a bargain price of only $1400. I am currently drooling over the Luna X-2 which has a lot more power and a throttle. There is an option for ludicrous mode which really makes it scoot. The only problem is the price. With sales tax it comes up to a nice even $5K. I may experience a sudden rush of common sense and stay where I am for now.
Tony in Tennessee, where the country is beautiful and the weather is tolerable and the housing market is going nuts.
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 03:22:57 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer (also gone), 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:36 +0000
Posts: 5580
Location: Santa Cruz California
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer (also gone), 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:36 +0000
Posts: 5580
Location: Santa Cruz California
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 03:22:57 +0000 linkquote
AZScootRN wrote:
I was considering an e-bike but "Holy Cow!" are they expensive. Very few of my scooters have cost me what an average e-bike would.

Howard
It's the cost of the battery. I have a Juiced Bike Crosscurrent X. The battery is about 40% of the cost. But it...
* Gets about 800 mpg equivalent and $0.25 til fully charge the battery
* Gets about 50 miles per charge, about 1/2¢ per mile
* Doesn't require insurance, registration or much maintenance (disk brake shoes & chain oil)
* Can be ridden in the bike lane and bike trails so you can stay out of traffic for the most part.
* Can go 35 mph with pedaling tho I usually cruise about 18-22 mph and always pedal
* Can make it across town almost as fast as a car, especially during traffic hours
* Can be parked virtually in front of your destination. No parking meters.
* No gas station visits, ever.
* Has pretty much all features you'd like/need to have
* Has two negatives in my eye: tricky to change a rear flat; no integrated rear light but that's easily solved with a 3rd party light.

I have pedaled 3500 miles on it and still love it. I almost never use it without pedaling.

My bro also has the same Juiced Bike. He loves it and does 50 mile rides around the Washington DC area in about 3 hours. I did a more in-depth post someplace on MV about my specific bike and it's features. Maybe use the search function to see if you can find it.

Juiced only sells online. They are designed in San Diego and manufactured in China.

Miguel
(I've no connection with the company except as a customer)
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:15:57 +0000

Addicted
'07 GTS250ie "Mechanical Squirrel", '66 Honda Benly, '19 Suzuki 250 cafe "Mouse", '77 Jawa 350TS, '42 Henschel PzKw VI Tiger
Joined: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:22:16 +0000
Posts: 858
Location: somewhere deep in the back of the garage...Burlington ONT.
 
Addicted
'07 GTS250ie "Mechanical Squirrel", '66 Honda Benly, '19 Suzuki 250 cafe "Mouse", '77 Jawa 350TS, '42 Henschel PzKw VI Tiger
Joined: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:22:16 +0000
Posts: 858
Location: somewhere deep in the back of the garage...Burlington ONT.
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:15:57 +0000 linkquote
Well shit. Someone just had to do a nice write up like the one above I suppose. Now I have to go and seriously look at one of the damn things.

Oh well, more toys in the garage.
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:26:52 +0000

Molto Verboso
GTS (sold)
Joined: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:45:44 +0000
Posts: 1013
Location: Motohobo, US
 
Molto Verboso
GTS (sold)
Joined: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:45:44 +0000
Posts: 1013
Location: Motohobo, US
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:26:52 +0000 linkquote
I can see the appeal, but right now I just want the regular-bicycle shortage to go away. I've been waiting on a Surly Ogre or Cross-Check for 8 months so far with no end in sight.

I had a serious sticker-shock moment when I saw the prices for e-bicycles. My only gripe with e-scooters (the stand-on type) is that the ones that infest cities to be rented at random tend to be abandoned right where they block access the worst. If those companies can sort that and be held accountable to some extent....

I catch myself grumbling at e-bikes and e-skateboards on greenway trails, but I realize it's just my own outmoded thinking and try to bash those thoughts' knuckles until they let go.
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 20:10:17 +0000

Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 17:35:13 +0000
Posts: 470
Location: Reno
 
Hooked
2020 Liberty 150, 2020 MP3-500
Joined: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 17:35:13 +0000
Posts: 470
Location: Reno
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 22:51:32 +0000

Ossessionato
2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP), 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
Joined: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:25:54 +0000
Posts: 3770
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
 
Ossessionato
2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP), 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
Joined: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:25:54 +0000
Posts: 3770
Location: Asbury Park, NJ
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 22:51:32 +0000 linkquote
Cheshire wrote:
I can see the appeal, but right now I just want the regular-bicycle shortage to go away. I've been waiting on a Surly Ogre or Cross-Check for 8 months so far with no end in sight.

I had a serious sticker-shock moment when I saw the prices for e-bicycles. My only gripe with e-scooters (the stand-on type) is that the ones that infest cities to be rented at random tend to be abandoned right where they block access the worst. If those companies can sort that and be held accountable to some extent....

I catch myself grumbling at e-bikes and e-skateboards on greenway trails, but I realize it's just my own outmoded thinking and try to bash those thoughts' knuckles until they let go.
Besides the fact that I own three bicycles, the appeal of e-bikes for me is extremely low: the "cheap" versions weigh a ton, therefore difficult to hoist up stairs (instant red-flag for me), and the just-light-enough versions have price tags dangerously close to what I'm paying for my SuperTech. My three bikes range in weight from 19 to 28lbs. Even the lightest e-bikes I've seen can't quite top that (except maybe Greg LeMond's new bike line, which looks mighty sweet, but as I was saying about eye-watering prices…)

Nonetheless: There more I look at those e-uni's, the more certain I am that I'll pick one up at some point (proper nexus of time/cost), if only for the proverbial shits & grins.


At least Mr. Hart (1931-2007) lived long enough to witness his "invention" come to life.

Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:48:10 +0000

Ossessionato
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
Joined: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 02:36:54 +0000
Posts: 2374
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
Ossessionato
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC 38,000km)
Joined: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 02:36:54 +0000
Posts: 2374
Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:48:10 +0000 linkquote
I'm only likely to buy an eBike or eScooter etc if I loose my license
Thu, 24 Feb 2022 18:27:28 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer (also gone), 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:36 +0000
Posts: 5580
Location: Santa Cruz California
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer (also gone), 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:36 +0000
Posts: 5580
Location: Santa Cruz California
Thu, 24 Feb 2022 18:27:28 +0000 linkquote
Fritz Katzenjammer wrote:
Well shit. Someone just had to do a nice write up like the one above I suppose. Now I have to go and seriously look at one of the damn things.

Oh well, more toys in the garage.
Fritz, Here's a link to the write up I did about my ebike. Get one if you think you'll use it. I've got 3500 miles on mine now. I'd buy the same bike today. There's nothing else out there quite like it IMHO. Miguel
Thu, 24 Feb 2022 19:28:42 +0000

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'07 GTS250ie "Mechanical Squirrel", '66 Honda Benly, '19 Suzuki 250 cafe "Mouse", '77 Jawa 350TS, '42 Henschel PzKw VI Tiger
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'07 GTS250ie "Mechanical Squirrel", '66 Honda Benly, '19 Suzuki 250 cafe "Mouse", '77 Jawa 350TS, '42 Henschel PzKw VI Tiger
Joined: Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:22:16 +0000
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Thu, 24 Feb 2022 19:28:42 +0000 linkquote
Miguel wrote:
Fritz, Here's a link to the write up I did about my ebike. Get one if you think you'll use it. I've got 3500 miles on mine now. I'd buy the same bike today. There's nothing else out there quite like it IMHO. Miguel
I don't need any encouragement.... stop it!

I recently dropped a couple of grand on a giant Dutch bicycle and just last week landed my semi retired ass a part time job as a bicycle mechanic in a local shop which carries really nice Bosch powered e-bikes.... this is going to be difficult.

My wife has already told me I'm not allowed to be paid in bicycle parts... dammit.

Sometimes life can be so hard!
Thu, 24 Feb 2022 20:07:26 +0000

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer (also gone), 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:36 +0000
Posts: 5580
Location: Santa Cruz California
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer (also gone), 2001 BMW R1100RT
Joined: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:36 +0000
Posts: 5580
Location: Santa Cruz California
Thu, 24 Feb 2022 20:07:26 +0000 linkquote
Fritz Katzenjammer wrote:
I don't need any encouragement.... stop it!
Hah. Sorry!

Miguel
Mon, 28 Feb 2022 00:12:36 +0000

Hooked
2020 piaggio liberty 150 2006 Piaggio BV 250 carbureted
Joined: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 02:14:49 +0000
Posts: 303
Location: Reno Nevada
 
Hooked
2020 piaggio liberty 150 2006 Piaggio BV 250 carbureted
Joined: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 02:14:49 +0000
Posts: 303
Location: Reno Nevada
Mon, 28 Feb 2022 00:12:36 +0000 linkquote
steelbytes wrote:
I'm only likely to buy an eBike or eScooter etc if I loose my license
In the USA there are some states that have the 50cc limit for a drivers license where you don't need any license at all if it is 50 cc or under. In my state Nevada any drivers license will work, you don't need a "motorcycle" endorsement to ride a 50 or smaller but you do for the 150 I have.

I think some people look down on the little scooters for that reason, the way they call them "mopeds" with tone and inflection as if it is a derogatory term...there ain't no pedals on my scooter!

I think it is the same rule in Nevada for an "eScooter" as well but you are good to go with the ebike and no license. I honestly don't think they enforce the rules all that much but that's what the written law is. I always see vehicles without plates at all here in Reno and never see anyone pulled over for not having plate. I think more than a few are unlicensed unregistered and uninsured just don't get in an accident or caught in roadside sobriety check.
   

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