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Hello all,
I have MP3, 400ie 2009 model, and I am having some electrical issues: sometimes the red light come on and turn off after a bit and that is after riding and not when starting the scooter, sometimes the from light (not high beam) would not work and then when I press the high beam it works, sometimes it does not, it acts funny, one more issue is that the light for the speedo (not the REV) did not work, a day ago it started working perfectly at night that it lit the speedo. Sometimes as I am riding, when coming to a stop, the scooter turns itself off, and I have to turn it on again (Note I changed the battery)

So I like to ask if any one can give me what is the possible things that is going wrong? Is there a way to reset the scooter's computer, I think if I reset it, these issue may go away,

thanks for all your comments,
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Sounds like you have corrosion in your dashboard. BTW I have one from 250'2006 with not so big mileage.
The ECU does not control the backlights I guess.
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Might just be bad connections to the dash. Take apart the connectors and clean them with naphtha or lighter fluid. Use a syringe or something so you don't get it all over and q tip or a flat toothpick to burnish the contacts if you can. Don't force anything into the contacts or they might get deformed and make it worse. If you use electrical cleaner or something check to make sure it won't attack's the plastic.
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Zoltman wrote:
Might just be bad connections to the dash. Take apart the connectors and clean them with naphtha or lighter fluid. Use a syringe or something so you don't get it all over and q tip or a flat toothpick to burnish the contacts if you can. Don't force anything into the contacts or they might get deformed and make it worse. If you use electrical cleaner or something check to make sure it won't attack's the plastic.
hello, thanks a lot for your assistance, I will do that, and thanks to all who answered and who will answer,
have a good one
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Zoltman wrote:
Might just be bad connections to the dash. Take apart the connectors and clean them with naphtha or lighter fluid. Use a syringe or something so you don't get it all over and q tip or a flat toothpick to burnish the contacts if you can. Don't force anything into the contacts or they might get deformed and make it worse. If you use electrical cleaner or something check to make sure it won't attack's the plastic.
WOAH NELLIE. STOP don't use a flammable like lighter fluid or naphtha NOT GOOD stuff there..

USE a electrical contact cleaner ONLY and follow up with some dielectric grease for the contacts.
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WOAH NELLIE. STOP don't use a flammable like lighter fluid or naphtha NOT GOOD stuff there..

USE a electrical contact cleaner ONLY and follow up with some dielectric grease for the contacts.
Hello,
thank you, much appreciated ,
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Hello,
thank you, much appreciated ,
your welcome,

flammable fluid can make things melt and heat or a spark could light it up.
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your welcome,

flammable fluid can make things melt dissolve and heat or a spark could light it up.
FTFY Razz emoticon
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^This (using electrical cleaner and dielectric grease only) X 10. Especially with Italian vehicle's brilliant talent for being self igniting devices such as Ferrari and Lamborghini.
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You, French, always hated Italians Laughing emoticon
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French??? Hell no. I am American.

What makes you think I am French?
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Just kiddin' about Belgians (as in Hercule Poirot)
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I've never had a problem with naphtha dissolving automotive connectors, but I've sure seen some spray electrical cleaners do it. Also I'm not fool enough to use naphtha near an ignition source but I guess it's necessary to make an allowance for those who might be.
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I've never had a problem with naphtha dissolving automotive connectors, but I've sure seen some spray electrical cleaners do it. Also I'm not fool enough to use naphtha near an ignition source but I guess it's necessary to make an allowance for those who might be.
ignition source is electrical connectors. please name/list the electrical cleaners you know of that have caused damage to connectors.
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I also have a 09 mp3 400ie, and I'm experiencing the same thing. When I come to a stop sometimes it just cuts off. I changed the battery because I was getting the stabilizer horn honking and it fixed the honking and the cutting off for a time. I also realized that the oil contributed to the cutting off as well. I was low on oil one time and it kept cutting off, changed the oil and everything was good for a time. In all I have changed the spark plug, battery, oil, oil filter headlight bulbs, brakes and cleaned/relubed the air filter. I going to check my dash wiring and fuses tomorrow because my bike cut off tonight and took a couple minutes for me to start it back up. I have yet to find a source to the problem. When I due I will let you know. If you find it before I do feel free to do the same. Cutting off at the light or a right hand turn sucks.
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I also have a 09 mp3 400ie, and I'm experiencing the same thing. When I come to a stop sometimes it just cuts off. I changed the battery because I was getting the stabilizer horn honking and it fixed the honking and the cutting off for a time. I also realized that the oil contributed to the cutting off as well. I was low on oil one time and it kept cutting off, changed the oil and everything was good for a time. In all I have changed the spark plug, battery, oil, oil filter headlight bulbs, brakes and cleaned/relubed the air filter. I going to check my dash wiring and fuses tomorrow because my bike cut off tonight and took a couple minutes for me to start it back up. I have yet to find a source to the problem. When I due I will let you know. If you find it before I do feel free to do the same. Cutting off at the light or a right hand turn sucks.
Mate, yours was like mine, it is now 11 years old. Everything will die in it, you need to change the wiring and make sure that the connectors are not rusty, this will happen as much as you take care of it, age is against you. It is a good scooter but it is dying. So if you can sell it that is good, if not, then you need to do a major overhaul for it or service which includes changing the wiring and the greasing the connectors etc... I wanted to ask first if you changed the battery, as it is recommended to change it every 4 to 5 years, but you stated you did change but not when you did? and what is a new one? or second hand?
Good luck.
Good luck.
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I changed it this fall that past, so about 6 months ago or less. It was a brand new battery didn't want to take the chance on a 2nd hand one. So the wiring and connectors, would those be in the dash or somewhere else?. I've become pretty handy fixing and repairing my bike as the nearest shop to me is in California, but it is my 1st piaggio so I don't know exactly where everything is. Thanks for the response
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I changed it this fall that past, so about 6 months ago or less. It was a brand new battery didn't want to take the chance on a 2nd hand one. So the wiring and connectors, would those be in the dash or somewhere else?. I've become pretty handy fixing and repairing my bike as the nearest shop to me is in California, but it is my 1st piaggio so I don't know exactly where everything is. Thanks for the response
I dont know which part or where in scooter, this is the million dollar questions, and if the nearest shop is very far from you, you are in bad situation, it is not the scooter for you. I know it is nice and has it's edge but it may not be worth it. So you have to do by trial and error I guess, it could be the area where you have the issue in, so you can check the start of the wiring and the end of it.
Good luck,
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Euro Cycle is the Piaggio dealer in vegas
I use small amounts of conductive paste or neversieze, to improve the connections the plastic between the pins is plenty of insulation...
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Yeah I know about Euro Cycle I talked to the mechanics there and they don't work on piaggio over 10 years old. Catch though lol they sell them over 10 yrs old, ain't that something.
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Yeah I know about Euro Cycle I talked to the mechanics there and they don't work on piaggio over 10 years old. Catch though lol they sell them over 10 yrs old, ain't that something.
Same with the dealer I dealt with in NSW, Australia, he worked on my scooter and then informed me that he does not work on them (when I called to ask about something later), so that was one of the aspects I took into consideration to accepting writing off my scooter.
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Well I finally found another shop here in LV that works on piaggio's. So I don't have to go to California. Gonna have a diagnostic ran on it and see what's wrong and what needs to be fixed. When I find out I'll let you know.
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Well I finally found another shop here in LV that works on piaggio's. So I don't have to go to California. ...
LMFAO. Yeah, that's what can happen when you buy from a manufacturer who treats the American market like a outlet store for models they can no longer sell in their home market.

At least they didn't ask you to ship it to a P.O. box. ROFL emoticon

It sounds like you may have gotten lucky.

Keep us posted.
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