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Checking my VIN - I see that my 2018 model yr Liberty150i S was made in Vietnam.

I'm curious - where was your scooter made?

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OldSchooot wrote:
Checking my VIN - I see that my 2018 model yr Liberty150i S was made in Vietnam.

I'm curious - where was your scooter made?

O.S.
The VIN code of my 2012 BV 300 starts with ZAP, meaning Piaggio made in Italy.
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The VIN code of my 2012 BV 300 starts with ZAP, meaning Piaggio made in Italy.
Actually, not always. As has been discussed the plant it was produced in is one of the digits in the VIN number.

2008 & 09 Piaggio Fly 150s have ZAP VIN numbers but were built by Zongshen in China.
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My 2019 Supertech is made in Vietnam.

The engine is Italian made.
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My GTS was manufactured in Italy.
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Actually, not always. As has been discussed the plant it was produced in is one of the digits in the VIN number.

2008 & 09 Piaggio Fly 150s have ZAP VIN numbers but were built by Zongshen in China.
The first digit in a vin code is the country of origin. Z is a European code and shows up on Italian built vehicles.

The vehicle can contain a boatload of offshore parts but the bulk of the value of the product and its point of assembly will be Italy.

I've seen complete Chinese engine/transmission units go into light trucks made here in southern Ontario as well a lots of other imported components, but the vin still starts with a 2 because of its "adequate"Canadian content and manufacture point

It seems some manufacturers tip toe along right on the edge of the grey zone by basically bringing virtually the whole thing in as a kit, assembling it at home and coding it as made there. I don't think you'd want to get nailed doing that though.

Not that I'm suggesting monkey shines on the part of an Italian company or a blind eye being turned by said same country's government.
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GTS HPE Super Sport 2021, manufactured in Vespa factory in Vietnam from mostly Italian and some local Vietnamese parts.

Interesting to note is while the chassis is made and pressed in Vietnam all the plastic body moldings are imported from Italy.
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GTS HPE Super Sport 2021, manufactured in Vespa factory in Vietnam from mostly Italian and some local Vietnamese parts.

Interesting to note is while the chassis is made and pressed in Vietnam all the plastic body moldings are imported from Italy.
What are the first 3 letters of the VIN code?
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What are the first 3 letters of the VIN code?
Why?
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My VIN indicates Italy.
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What are the first 3 letters of the VIN code?
I can answer for him. It's gonna be an RP8M
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Why?
Well because the first letters indicate where the vehicle was built.
The VIN of vehicles built in Italy always starts with a Z. And the VIN of a Piaggio built in Italy normally starts with ZAP, where the P stands for Piaggio.

As an other example: the VIN of vehicles built in France always starts with VF, which simply stands for "Véhicule Française".
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Well because the first letters indicate where the vehicle was built.

Was my post about my Vespa being made in Vespa factory in Vietnam not clear enough? Sorry if I missed something.
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