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Mon, 06 Feb 2023 14:45:00 +0000 quote
Second coat of primer after first round of sanding. I tried shooting it unreduced with an HVLP gun and got tons of peel. A little reducer and it was way better. I definitely need a gun with a bigger tip if I want to spray primer. I will finish this project off with the Preval canisters for now.







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Wed, 08 Feb 2023 13:21:16 +0000 quote
Still sanding…That last coat of primer went on like bed liner in many places. At least it sands like filler. I'm hoping that the next coat will be my last one, so that I can do the final sanding.


Lookit that peeeeel….


Legshield at least looks decent.

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Wed, 08 Feb 2023 14:03:47 +0000 quote
Sanding (and paint prep in general) is all about embracing the suck.

And remember...
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Wed, 08 Feb 2023 14:16:47 +0000 quote
chandlerman wrote:
Sanding (and paint prep in general) is all about embracing the suck.

And remember...

It truly is…I was thinking about how it was easier prepping a scooter than a bus….BUT…you can drive a DA across bus panels like a Zamboni over an ice rink. A scooter has all those nooks and crannies and curves. They both suck on their own special way.
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That last coat of primer went on like bed liner in many places.
hahaha
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Oh man, it'll be fine but you made way more work for yourself than you needed to with the lumpy primer.

What product did you use and how did you spray it? Was that orange peel after using the Preval?

Epoxy primer is normally pretty unfussy. You should be able to get it to lie almost dead flat.



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Epoxy primer is normally pretty unfussy. You should be able to get it to lie almost dead flat.
Agreed. I usually *wish* my top coat looked as good as the DTM Epoxy coat!
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Oh man, it'll be fine but you made way more work for yourself than you needed to with the lumpy primer.

What product did you use and how did you spray it? Was that orange peel after using the Preval?

Epoxy primer is normally pretty unfussy. You should be able to get it to lie almost dead flat.
It is indeed pretty hard to mess up primer.

Product was Masterpro DTM epoxy primer. The peel happened with an HVLP gun. The problem is that so didn't use any reducer for the "high build" option. I figured since it came out so nicely from the Preval sprayer with one part reducer, the gun would easily push it unreduced. Wrong.

With reducer, it sprays out nicely. Both times that I have used a gun, I made mistakes because of time pressure. As CM says, with the gun set up properly it will spray out with a nice gloss like a top coat. Ironically, I somehow managed 2 nice glossy coats…on the bottom.

Just about done sanding out the peel. Extra work for sure, but I've had worse things happen.
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Fri, 10 Feb 2023 17:22:40 +0000 quote
Well, it's looking like the painter won't work out. Body shops are full of collision work as someone mentioned before. Time to find a plan B.
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Spray it yourself. If Lynnb could do it, so can you.

bodywork - over my head
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Spray it yourself. If Lynnb could do it, so can you.

bodywork - over my head
Thanks for the link. I have sprayed urethane before and was pretty happy with it. I have a decent gun but usually don't use it for primer.
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SoCalGuy wrote:
Spray it yourself. If Lynnb could do it, so can you.

bodywork - over my head
That was a helpful thread. The paint came out great on that scooter.

One good point: turning down the gun so it's putting out a volume of paint suitable for a scooter. My last painting project was a bus door. My biggest problem was that the gun was cranking out too much paint for a small project, which gave me runs and dry spray because all the extra paint landing in areas that didn't need it.

I think I will need to play with the gun with some acetone to get it right. Painting a scooter is harder in some ways; lots of curved surfaces close together. Practicing on the backs of cowls and the small parts and shooting the chassis last is a great idea.

I will do the painting at my old house in the big garage. Weather is getting warmer so heating will be less of an issue. Worst case scenario is that I will have drips and dry spray to fix.
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I don't know much about painting, but have watched a bunch of videos. And one guy stood out.

He was saying that he's painted hundreds of cars, and he's an OK painter. It's all in the gun setup and technique.

He then went into how to set up your gun for the paint you're spraying - super important.

Also, he talked about muscle memory, and he practiced with a piece of V-shaped cardboard taped to the gun, and pretends that the cardboard is the paint and runs the cardboard perpendicular to the surface to be painted .

Well, I did this before I painted the inside of the cowl on the 62 Allstate - for over an hour - until I could get the proper feel and angle of the gun. Trickier than you'd think to get the spray even and appropriate.

Gun setup, and muscle memory practice on pieces to spray. The key takeaways...

I'm excited to see how yours comes out!
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Thanks!

Once, I unplugged my compressor by mistake and continued painting. As the pressure went down, the paint delivery was right in the zone; perfect for a smaller area. Shouldn't be too hard to dial it in if I take the time to do it. Seems I am always under time pressure when painting.


This is my best paint gun. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.

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In other news, it's 42* here and sunny, so I went for a ride to try out the 128 MJ and hoping it would splutter.

It did. It was painful to ride to at least try to get it warmed up. It was a puke rich, spluttery mess throughout the rev range. I guess that's progress.
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Here's the number one pro tip for getting less orange peel...get better lighting when you're painting! By doing that, you can see exactly how the primer/surfaced/color/clear is coalescing while you're spaying. Also position your head at whatever angle you need to so that you can see exactly how the paint is being laid down.
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whodatschrome wrote:
Here's the number one pro tip for getting less orange peel...get better lighting when you're painting! By doing that, you can see exactly how the primer/surfaced/color/clear is coalescing while you're spaying. Also position your head at whatever angle you need to so that you can see exactly how the paint is being laid down.
Thanks! That's very true. Last time I painted for real, the first coat as perfect. The second coat was a lot harder because I couldn't see it as well.
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Back to the Stella…

So the 128 main spluttered like mad. My next smallest main is a 125. I would bet that it will splutter too now that I have drilled out the float bowl. I know in theory, it's not supposed to increase fuel flow for anything over a 125, but in reality, I think it might. It's supposed to hit 60* on Thursday, so I will find out.

I am also getting a scuffing noise sometimes when moving off from first and the bike jumps…like popping the clutch. It doesn't do it if I let the clutch out reeeeally gently or in other gears besides first. It's just really twitchy. I rebuilt the clutch along with the engine and replaced everything. My idle speed hovers around 1k rpm. Not sure why it's doing that, but I should probably figure it out sooner than later.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
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did you rebuild the cush?
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did you rebuild the cush?
Yes, and I doubled up the springs like the 200 has. They came with the kit.
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well that's a relief. going back for that is a huge endeavor.
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I'm slowly getting closer to being ready for paint. I have next week off. Chassis, cowls, mudguard and glovebox are ready for another round of primer.

So I'm trying to figure out paint. I have read lots of info, but not sure it will help much at the paint shop asI haven't had any luck looking up a PPG code for the original color.

The color is: 1.298.7275 Marine Blue

1=single stage
298=batch code
7=blue group
275=PPG catalogue color code

Not sure if this info will allow the paint shop to mix the right color.

Worst case scenario, there is still original paint on the underside of the gas tank. The respray was not really a match.

Thanks for the help.


After so much sanding, it's still grey


I love this color.

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Is that the ET3 blue, yes?

If so I have the current match code from Valspar. Happy to share.
(Matched from the Vespa Technica color swatches book.)

The Max Meyer to PPG translations work on a some, but far from all of the paint colors.


ET3 Blue 7275

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Is that the ET3 blue, yes?

If so I have the current match code from Valspar. Happy to share.
(Matched from the Vespa Technica color swatches book.)

The Max Meyer to PPG translations work on a some, but far from all of the paint colors.
Thank you so much.
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Slow going, but at least still going. I finished sanding all that peel on the chassis and got a couple of good coats of primer on it last week. Then I hit the wall and took a couple days off.

Back at it by Sunday and got the rest of the bits sanded and cleaned. I reprimed them all today. Still unable to get my cheap guns working properly in spite of spending a lot of time trying to dial them in and reducing the primer. I will have to find a better primer gun. The guns spray light material fine, but just can't push primer.

I actually made it out for a ride and had some jetting observations/questions.

But I'll wait a bit for the excitement to die down from watching paint dry before posting.


Heavy enough and glossy enough to wet sand with 600 grit and not break through.


All those bits…

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The hours you've put in are paying off. It's looking really, really good from here!
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brok3nr0b0t wrote:
The hours you've put in are paying off. It's looking really, really good from here!
Thank you! Closest I can get to the new P200e I wanted in highschool, but they were long gone from shops by then (late 80's).
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A couple days ago, I gave the jetting on the Stella another try with a 122 main (140/be5). I seem to be going in the right direction. The 125 was slightly less awful than the 128, the 122 a bit better still.

Best way to describe it…It seems to splutter, bog, surge a little, bog some more until it picks up speed and rpm's. Then it seems to clear up and feel pretty good at, or close to WOT. Not sure where to go from here except continuing to work my way down on the main.

I have the impression that I was doing better with the 160/be3 combo, but I'm going to see this one through.

The absolute best it ran was with the jetting it came with. 160/be4/112. I can't remember the idle jet off hand, but it was super lean.
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A couple days ago, I gave the jetting on the Stella another try with a 122 main (140/be5). I seem to be going in the right direction. The 125 was slightly less awful than the 128, the 122 a bit better still.

Best way to describe it…It seems to splutter, bog, surge a little, bog some more until it picks up speed and rpm's. Then it seems to clear up and feel pretty good at, or close to WOT. Not sure where to go from here except continuing to work my way down on the main.

I have the impression that I was doing better with the 160/be3 combo, but I'm going to see this one through.

The absolute best it ran was with the jetting it came with. 160/be4/112. I can't remember the idle jet off hand, but it was super lean.
When setting the main jet on an SI carb use WOT in 2nd gear. Just WOT, Issues at any other throttle position use different methods to adjust. Once you know the main jet that just splutters when at high rpm and at WOT, then the next decisions can be made. Jetting correctly is one step at a time.
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When setting the main jet on an SI carb use WOT in 2nd gear. Just WOT, Issues at any other throttle position use different methods to adjust. Once you know the main jet that just splutters when at high rpm and at WOT, then the next decisions can be made. Jetting correctly is one step at a time.
Ok. So with the 125 it will eventually, just barely, run cleanly at WOT. If I nail it at WOT in second gear it takes a long time to "clear" , if that makes sense. 128 won't.
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Ok. So with the 125 it will eventually, just barely, run cleanly at WOT. If I nail it at WOT in second gear it takes a long time to "clear" , if that makes sense. 128 won't.
Not there yet. Drop the main jet to 122 to try again. Might need to go to 120. What should happen is, when riding in 2nd at middle rpm, sudden WOT should pull immediately. As the rpm quickly reaches maximum and is held there, it should faintly splutter, while the speed stays constant. This is the jet to work from. For the next part.
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Not there yet. Drop the main jet to 122 to try again. Might need to go to 120. What should happen is, when riding in 2nd at middle rpm, sudden WOT should pull immediately. As the rpm quickly reaches maximum and is held there, it should faintly splutter, while the speed stays constant. This is the jet to work from. For the next part.
Ok, thank you! That makes it clear what I should be looking for.
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Bought my paint a few days ago, armed with Birdnest's code and the gas tank with original paint. Using codes, they could only get it in waterborne. They got pretty close with the spectrometer. From 0-100, with 0 being perfect, it was a 14; Subaru geyser blue. I guess that's how it's done. It looks very close so I'm not gonna sweat it.

Did my taping and seam sealing yesterday which took ages. Onward.


Spot the new color sample.


This was fun… :/


A little seam sealer to clean up, but not bad.

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Just a quick update:

Stella: The nut on the clutch lever pivot pin fell off. Hadn't even noticed. Maybe the source of my clutch noise. The lever is really sloppy without it.

Waiting for the roads to clear of snow so I can take another crack at jetting.

200 engine: I measured the piston/cylinder clearance at .0086" or so. I think that's in the correct range for a standard piston. There was no difference at the top ridge (where there is less wear). I think it will just need a light hone.

200 paint: couple spots escaped my metal finishing (side cowls). A little bit more tappety tap, some icing and final sanding.

I am still trying paint shops. A couple have time in the spring. I will see how things stand when I have all the prep done.
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Back to the Stella jetting. Previously tried a 122 MJ which was too rich.

Next one down I have is a 119, so I tried it.

In second gear at about mid rpm and 1/2 throttle…nailing WOT accelerates quickly and cleanly though sometimes after after a bit of splutter at first. I have to recheck exactly where the rpm is when nailing WOT. Should be about 2500-3000.

So I think my main will be in the 118-120 range. The 4 stroking is still awful up to almost half throttle, but I think that will sort out. It's also stupid cold here and I'm running a cooler plug and it's hard to get the engine really warmed up. I think CHT's only get to about 180F during the usual warmup route. 5" of new snow today… 😞
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Sat, 04 Mar 2023 20:38:19 +0000 quote
Back to the 200.

Doing a round of Ospho in the seams between the floor and tunnel. In hindsight, it may have been quicker and easier to replace the floor instead of all the rust removal and prep.

Now that the frame is completely stripped, I turned the frame on each side and crammed the seams with paper towels soaked in Ospho overnight.

Going to paint the seams on each side letting it seep in from the inside while the bike is resting on its side. That should seal it from the inside.

For the engine build: I'm going to have the cylinder bored 1 size up. My machinist will do it for $50. I will be buying a GS piston, but also have a good stock piston of the same size as a spare.


Ospho in the seams.

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Mon, 06 Mar 2023 14:38:41 +0000

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Mon, 06 Mar 2023 14:38:41 +0000 quote
Roads are dry today, so hoping to do a jetting ride after work with the Stella.

Yesterday, I replaced the halogen headlight with an LED as well as the cracked horncast with a new one. Super bright and much less of a drain on the electrical system.

Good thing I did. One of the shift cables was a great big snarl in the headset, so I replaced it. Might explain why moving off in first was difficult. Also replaced the missing nut on the clutch lever pivot pin and lubed it. Much better.

Found 2 body shops that can get to the 200 in the spring which is fine with me. Still lots of other things that I can get done in the meantime.

Real riding season is at least 6 weeks away, but being able to work out the small kinks on the Stella from time to time is a good place to be.


New horncast. Red rattle can is a little darker but good enough.

Mon, 06 Mar 2023 15:43:49 +0000

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Blue paint looks good. It's soooo close! I guess in TX we like our VOC's.

Nice ya got a quick test ride in. Good on ya.
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Birdsnest wrote:
Blue paint looks good. It's soooo close! I guess in TX we like our VOC's.

Nice ya got a quick test ride in. Good on ya.
Thanks!

I did make it out for a ride today. The 119 main jet is still too rich, but I felt like I knew what to look for.

I still get some stuttering going to full throttle from mid range rpm, but I can tell I'm getting closer. Before I knew it, I was at 60 mph with a lot more to go. Will try a 118 next. Below 1/2 throttle is still awful at low speeds.
Mon, 06 Mar 2023 22:55:46 +0000

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Spluttering as suddenly opened does matter but this can be mistaken for a lean bog symptom too.
The important splutter is when it gets to high rpm and settles, then splutters.
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