Joepre wrote:
Thanks Larry - I appreciate the reply. I have been riding motorcycles all my life, but I have no experience with scooters. I started my research on the internet like everyone does, which led me here.
I checked out the FAQs and WIKI, but didn't see anything around specs or attributes of one version versus another. I will keep looking though.
One would hope that when someone new wants to learn more about a subject or item, the experts would chime in with specific ideas just like you did.
Thanks again
Since you're an experienced motorcycle rider, the "unknown" to you is how a Vespa compares to a typical motorcycle. I first looked at scooters when a deteriorating hip made it too painful to throw a leg over a motorcycle. Scooters were my wife's suggestion, and I have to admit I was not immediately onboard. Like many motorcycle riders, I thought the scooter experience would be, somehow, less than riding a motorcycle. I was
really wrong.
After decades of riding mostly big road bikes, I found out how easy and fun it is to ride a scooter. I was hooked after that first ride. I thought shifting was an integral part of what I enjoyed about riding, but it turned out to be insignificant... the rest of the riding experience is still there: leaning, accelerating out of corners, the agility, the sights, the smells, the wind. It just so happens that moving the scooter around in the driveway or when parking is a breeze. I thought a couple of the BMWs I had were "flickable"... riding the GTS brings that to a whole new level, while still having surprisingly good road manners.
No, it isn't going to feel as stable on the highway as an 800 pound bike made for touring, but it is even more fun in the twisties... and that is the riding I enjoy the most. We are done with cross-country riding (we haul our scoots behind our motorhome to get to the best riding), but are having even more fun with day tripping.
I had concerns about "those 12" wheels"... that disappeared after the first ride. The Vespa designers have done a remarkable job in creating a bike that does so much more than the uninitiated would think.
We first bought a pair of Honda PCX 150 scooters: 14" wheels, Honda reliability, modern style. After 5 years of that, the Vespa curiosity got the better of me, and I bought a used GTS 250... thinking that if I didn't like it, I could easily resell it and not lose any money. The GTS gave me that highway speed I wanted, with no loss of the ease of the smaller scooter. My wife opted for a Yamaha Xmax - a very capable scoot that is more "motorcycle like" than the Vespa. In the meantime, a total hip replacement and rehab meant I could toss a leg over a motorcycle again. Instead of another motorcycle, I swapped my 250 GTS for a 2020 GTS 300 HPE. We are riding more with these scoots than with our previous motorcycles.
I am in no way saying that the scooter experience is right for everyone. You'll have to try it for yourself to see if you get the same thrill and satisfaction from riding a scooter. You can read plenty of stuff here and on the ADV Battle Scooters... but for an experienced rider, nothing beats getting your butt on the seat and the wheels on the road. I will admit that since the new hip, once in a while I think about another motorcycle (I've ridden a few in the past couple years); then I get back on my Vespa and appreciate what a good fit it is for me. At first, it may feel odd to not have a gas tank between your knees and that "rip your arms out of their sockets" acceleration. Just kick back and enjoy all the things a scooter does so well.
If you are thinking of a GTS 300, the various models are mostly accessory and cosmetic differences: the motor, frame, handling, and performance are the same. If you are thinking of any of the smaller models, the size/specs will be different. The 300s are highway capable, the smaller models will top out just over 60mph. On the highway, I prefer to run at 65 +/-, so I have a bit more speed if I need it. While there are plenty of people who are riding these scooters impressive distances at whatever the speed limit is, I enjoy a different pace these days. That's what makes this Vespa a good match for me.
Enjoy the search.