Modern Vespa

i have a 79 px 125 and i recently updated the stator to a 12v i don't think the standard 4 pin regulator hello because it blew up my head lamp and non of my indicators work. so i'm dead. is there any recommended flasher and regulator i should use to update what i have at the moment?

so you've posted yet ANOTHER new topic to your on going saga (and in the wrong forum again natch).

I've moved it here.

that brings us to at total of SEVEN different topics created to discuss the same thing, that you keep starting a new thread on.

how do you expect to collate all this information and parse it all when you're just all over the place. frankly, it's becoming tiresome.

so, I'll give you one more swing at this. take some time, look at, read and decide amongst all the responses you've received which you'd like to gather up and make ONE post in the correct forum regarding this problem.

we're here and we want help you out with the problems but you're just making it so, so difficult. understand that if you keep down this route people will just stop responding or offering advice.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but in light of your posts on the subject, do you think that you have the skill set to be tackling this project yourself? No offense meant, but maybe find a competent mechanic, write a check and enjoy riding the scooter? Some people are tinkerers and some are not. Doesn't mean you still cant enjoy riding. My $0.02 worth.

^^ He tackled a job of wiring a stator/harness set-up. I sent him a detailed drawing of what I thought he should do it and he actually did a heck of a job. I got with him on the phone, nice guy and polite. As far as I know he was planning on selling the scooter if I remember right.

I am aware that he posted a few times over a few issues related to either the same thing or similar but he is also new to the forum. At this time I am not sure if he read the suggestions given to him by the admin or other fellow members/users.

Hey scooterist, I have not had luck in selling it, every time i would put it up people would get a the chance to come see it but it never happens. so i just keep tinkering with it don't worry about the other guys they have no manners and I only have you to thank.

also i got a 12v regulator and 12v flasher relay coming but the regulator i got is color codded differnt black yellow and white. i cant find the meaning all i know is black is ground im not sure about the yellow i know that in the other one it was ground also for the original purple, pink yellow, yellow.

I would tell you the answer to a simple regulator question like that but I have no manners. The answer is posted many times in this forum but maybe too lazy or know it all to search for the answer. May take 20 mins and you'll learn something. It seems you want the answer and a simple fix but don't want to know how this stuff works. That lines up with fixing in order to sell objective that you have. You can go kick rocks. Chump don't want no help...Chump don't get no help.

BTW, is this your ad to sell that thing for $2500?
https://offerup.com/item/detail/1342618628?q=vespa

That ad says 1979 Vespa Px125 "Mint"..bro I don't think so unless it's "mint" to fool someone to think work was done by someone with the correct know how to do it right. Was it painted with a brush or spray can? Don't seem a spot was missed including the fan cover and shocks.

Your description doesn't seem right either. Based on your limited knowledge I wouldn't trust any of the work mentioned in that ad.
Good luck with all of that.

Take a look at this PDF document from scooterhelp:

http://scooterhelp.com/electrics/wiring/VNX1T.before.82432.pdf

Download it and print a color copy.

The bike was 12V to begin with, unless the scoot isn't from the US.

If your replacement regulator is not a stock replacement, include a picture of it so we can suss it out. It sounds like you have one for a 1980 and later P125X. They do not wire up the same.

The yellow wires are input from the coils. The pink one feeds back to the fused circuit that charges the battery. The purple one goes back to the "X" terminal on the flasher relay. Black is your ground.

Now, technical help aside...

It is rude to keep posting questions in the General Discussion section. You won't find much help there. Create your post in the Not So Modern section, where people know and care about these old scoots. Moderators have to move your post in order to get it in the right forum, so continuing to treat them like porters and having them handle your luggage is rude.

There is a search function on the forum, up in the top banner. Click Search, then enter "P125X" regulator" in the query box. Click the Search button. It will get you a list of threads where your search query is applicable. It is rude to ignore the tools at your disposal and ask repetitive questions. It makes you look like you don't read/value anyone's shared information and makes you look like the guy who copied off other peoples homework in school. Don't be that guy.

Snapshot of the diagram is shown below, since I'm skeptical that you'd bother to download the wiring diagram.

Yikes:
"6v to 12v upgrade" on a px.

Were you a sleuth, in a former life maybe?

what can i say i have a mental disorder my apologies, non of the guys who work on bikes "vespa" in my cause know or do anything regarding it i've even tried other motor cycle shops they never seem to want to help me when i explain to them i just want my lights to work. so i just google and look for what ever i can to make it fit. as for the forum. I'm not to familiar as to how i can see what i posy with out either going to my email or actually taking the time and properly go through the sight. i have a lot of shit on my plate and I do really appreciate the help guys. I don't mean to offend anyone.

Going back to one of your other threads, I see your replacement stator looks to have a red, white, blue, green and black wire coming out of it. I'm guessing its a replacement for a T5 or Millennium bike. Here's a harness from one of those for reference:



Looking at the wiring for a T5, things are wired very differently.

Not sure how to reconcile them at the moment, but I have noticed you're putting the blue output through both yellow wires. That's effectively halving the resistance of the output from the stator to the regulator and probably doesn't help much.

^^ That is the only stator that he had. I know is a mismatch but he was just trying to get by and have it running. He had other electrical problems but he is not reconciling all the proper hardware to make it work properly.

Like others have said (including you), he needs to at least made the attempt to put the correct hardware for the year and model and go from there, then apply the schematics.

the site actually works tremendously well on iPhone and android and on a laptop it's even easier to navigate.

want to see what you write before you post it? click "preview"
want to see what else you've posted? click your name, then click "view all posts"

it's fairly organic and self evident to navigate.

anyway, you're fiddle fucking around with the ONE thing that shouldn't be half assed. you never answer questions or provide feedback and your writing wavers between difficult to understand to downright gibberish. I hate to be a dick, but I can see why somebody at a shop wouldn't want to deal with you or the problems of the bike, especially if you're not ready to cough up a whole bunch of coin.

anyway, just so as I'm not entirely shitting on you here ya go, I offer the solution to all your problems. right here

or, you carry on down the path of the unknown and the nonsense. you HAVE to know wiring intimately if you're going to try and "tinker" with it. otherwise you're going to wind up with piss poor results and money wasted.

good luck

That was exactly what I was thinking. I remember seeing this in the movies and Barbara Billingsley (June Cleaver) almost made me piss myself.

Randy: Can I get you something?

Second Jive Dude: 'S'mofo butter layin' me to da' BONE! Jackin' me up... tight me!

Randy: I'm sorry, I don't understand.

First Jive Dude: Cutty say 'e can't HANG!

Jive Lady: Oh, stewardess! I speak jive.

Randy: Oh, good.

Jive Lady: He said that he's in great pain and he wants to know if you can help him.

Randy: All right. Would you tell him to just relax and I'll be back as soon as I can with some medicine?

Jive Lady: [to the Second Jive Dude] Jus' hang loose, blood. She gonna catch ya up on da rebound on da med side.

Second Jive Dude: What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap!

Jive Lady: Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da help!

First Jive Dude: Say 'e can't hang, say seven up!

Jive Lady: Jive-ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Shiiiiit.

I just assumed that everyone has a mental disorder these days. It's the default statement now whenever someone gets everything backasswards. No problem bro.

I have a shopping list for you, assuming you have the stock regulator in place and followed Scooterist's wiring advice. A little over $100 and you will be much less frustrated.

Get a new battery. The stator has no connections to your turn signals, horn, tail/brake lights, so all will work again:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B091MBFSXW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Get this headlight. You'll have to grind/sand some nubs in the back for a snug fit:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CR3UXA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Get this regulator. Your new stator will blow out the headlight in a few hours if not. Connect it between the stator and the headlight following the provided diagram:
https://www.amazon.com/Trail-Tech-7003-AC01-Universal-Regulator/dp/B00FMVWPKK/ref=asc_df_B00FMVWPKK/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241973068692&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1438221085009383572&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061104&hvtargid=pla-494074596478&psc=1

Get a strobe lamp. I'm guessing your new stator's issue is you aren't able to rotate it enough. If so, this can be remedied with a dremel or a drill by enlarging the screw slots.
Only use old markings as maybe a starting point. Timing needs to be confirmed with this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KS72GA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Listen to Ray8

He took the time to point you in the right direction.