Tue May 31, 2022 4:05 pm

Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3118
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3118
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Tue May 31, 2022 4:05 pm linkquote
I need to find a better plug connection, this one keeps hitting the motor cover. I had one with a 90° angle but it hit also and got broken. This one is shorter than stock but still to long. Any recommendations? I think I need to use a different boot around plug hole. This is an old cover I drilled a hole in reserving my new cover.



Tue May 31, 2022 4:22 pm

Ossessionato
73 & 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 06 PX150, 61 Ser 2, 65 Silver Special, 90 V5N 50, 01 ET2, 2015 HD Road Glide Special
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Ossessionato
73 & 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 06 PX150, 61 Ser 2, 65 Silver Special, 90 V5N 50, 01 ET2, 2015 HD Road Glide Special
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Tue May 31, 2022 4:22 pm linkquote
I've got a 90* plastic spark plug cap on my 225, center spark plug hole. No problems ever.

Your spark plug lead too long?
Tue May 31, 2022 4:37 pm

Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3118
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3118
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Tue May 31, 2022 4:37 pm linkquote
MJRally wrote:
I've got a 90* plastic spark plug cap on my 225, center spark plug hole. No problems ever.

Your spark plug lead too long?
Picture of what you have, part number? Could be my Stella cowl is a little different shape? Had issues with angled spark plug and 90° spark plug cap also, this is just worse cowl won't even go on.

I think I need to get rid of that black dry rotted rubber boot and get a much shorter plug cap. Then figure out how to seal.around hole.
Tue May 31, 2022 4:49 pm

Ossessionato
73 & 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 06 PX150, 61 Ser 2, 65 Silver Special, 90 V5N 50, 01 ET2, 2015 HD Road Glide Special
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Ossessionato
73 & 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 06 PX150, 61 Ser 2, 65 Silver Special, 90 V5N 50, 01 ET2, 2015 HD Road Glide Special
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Tue May 31, 2022 4:49 pm linkquote
No pics. I'm away at the moment. Standard plastic NGK spark plug cap. Nothing special!
Tue May 31, 2022 4:55 pm

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Posts: 8884
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
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Posts: 8884
Location: Atlanta, GA
Tue May 31, 2022 4:55 pm linkquote
Any chance you got like janky engine mounts letting it go too far forward?
Tue May 31, 2022 4:59 pm

Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3118
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3118
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Tue May 31, 2022 4:59 pm linkquote
xantufrog wrote:
Any chance you got like janky engine mounts letting it go too far forward?
No I have new urethane mounts, thinking about it I should go see what is on my Stella motor.
Tue May 31, 2022 5:20 pm

Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
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Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Ossessionato
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 3118
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Tue May 31, 2022 5:20 pm linkquote
Just pulled an NGK LD05F, off of my Stella motor. It's an inch shorter than the one that was in there, measured with a tape measure. Cowl now fits without an issue. What do you guys use to seal air leaks around plug hole in shroud?
Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:37 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
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Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 08 Stella (for now)
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Location: Nashville
Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:37 am linkquote
I just don't worry about air leaks around the spark plug hole in the cowl.
Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:51 am

Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
Joined: 12 Jun 2008
Posts: 8884
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Moderibbit
1980 P200E - "Old Rusty", 1976 ET3 Primavera
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Posts: 8884
Location: Atlanta, GA
Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:51 am linkquote
*edit* never mind - you mean the hole the spark plug lead sticks out of, and if you have an extra one. Ignore my confusion

Last edited by xantufrog on Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:49 am; edited 3 times in total
Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:43 am

Ossessionato
73 & 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 06 PX150, 61 Ser 2, 65 Silver Special, 90 V5N 50, 01 ET2, 2015 HD Road Glide Special
Joined: 18 Jan 2012
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Location: Oceanside, CA
 
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73 & 74 Rally, 76 ET3, 80 P200, 06 PX150, 61 Ser 2, 65 Silver Special, 90 V5N 50, 01 ET2, 2015 HD Road Glide Special
Joined: 18 Jan 2012
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Location: Oceanside, CA
Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:43 am linkquote
https://www.scooter-center.com/en/plug-for-spark-plug-hole-in-cylinder-cover-oem-quality-vespa-smallframe-v50-pv-et3-pk-px-cosa-rally-sprint-t5-for-cylinder-with-central-spark-plug-e.g.-quattrini-m1x-m244-3334098?number=3334098

Since I used the shroud off a traditional angled spark plug head, I had to drill my own hole for the center mounted head on my 225. There were two holes in the shroud, so I used one of the linked plugs to fill the old angled one.

I see now someones made a cowl specifically for center mounted plugs.

https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/cylinder-cowling-quattrini-m232-m244-tomas-compositi_23387600
Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:36 pm

Hooked
Rat 2003 Stella 2T; 1979 P125x (in pieces, out for paint)
Joined: 12 Sep 2015
Posts: 348
Location: Madtown
 
Hooked
Rat 2003 Stella 2T; 1979 P125x (in pieces, out for paint)
Joined: 12 Sep 2015
Posts: 348
Location: Madtown
Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:36 pm linkquote
I drilled a second hole in the shroud for the center-mount plug, I've had no trouble with a standard 90 degree NGK plug cap. I just duct-taped over the old hole.

I've tested temps with the second hold sealed with a rubber grommet or not. It made no difference whether it was leaking or not.
Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:17 pm

bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
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Location: So Cal
 
bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
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Location: So Cal
Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:17 pm linkquote
Christopher_55934 wrote:
What do you guys use to seal air leaks around plug hole in shroud?
I use one of these.

http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Spark-Plug-Wire-Seal-Flapper-Seal-111905449-p/111-905-449a-111-449.htm
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