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Wow that is much shorter than I thought! I was guessing your windshield was around 9" tall. That's what my template is at too. Looks like I'll need to cut the template down from the 9" I have now. BTW my dimensions are taken along the length of the windshield.

Just to clarify, was your measurement taken resting the tape measure along the windshield? Or is your measurement the vertical height difference between the top of the headlight to the top of the windshield?

Measure twice, cut once!

Thanks in advance!

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Hec In Omaha wrote:
Just to clarify, was your measurement taken resting the tape measure along the windshield? Or is your measurement the vertical height difference between the top of the headlight to the top of the windshield?
I wouldn't worry so much about height except to keep the wind buffeting to a minimum, which is just looking over the top of the windscreen. You can always cut it long, and recut it shorter if it doesn't work for you.

I've experimented a fair amount with windscreens. What I've found is the good looking shape and size sucks for actual riding above 30 mph. Catches me right in the chin and makes all kinds of noise/buffeting.

Sure, I can go a hare faster in a tuck, but is it worth it?

As you can see, I go back and forth. Now getting hand protection like WhoDat chrome has on his pink PK - that's cool! Razz emoticon

Good luck with it all...
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IMHO(based on my five years winter riding experience):
If weather is so cold that you really need that hand guards on the screen then better to have also high as possible screen. In other case hand guards not needed and looks strange esp. with low screen.
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Howdy all!

Here is a question for all the Vespa Purists out there. What's the best way to squish the end of the glove box hinge rivet?
I was thinking of using a small C-Clamp. I could grind a small divot in both of the C-Clamp ends to keep the rivet ends from slipping off during the squishification process.
BTW. The OEM rivets that were there upon disassembly were longer and simply bent instead of squished.

Thanks in advance!

Hec
OEM Glove Box Hinge Rivet. Just bent.
OEM Glove Box Hinge Rivet. Just bent.
New Glove Box Rivet
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I bend them…
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I use two hammers.
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Thanks guys!

The new rivets are shorter than the OEM ones. Therefore I didn't want to try bending the little bit of rivet exposed. I was afraid of putting to much force on the hinge and bracket and risk breaking a weld. I also didn't trust myself with two hammers in such a tight space trying to mushroom the rivet end.
So I ended up improvising. Imagine that! I first took the new rivet and chucked up in my Dremel tool. I spun the rivet in the Dremel and lightly touched it with a hack saw blade. This created a nice groove in the rivet. This groove provides an E-clip a place to lock in. The rivets are very secure! I could not break the grip of the E-Clips bite on the rivet by pushing on the rivet end! Taking the glove box door off is easily done by prying the E-Clips off. The glove box is now ready for installation.

Stay Tuned!

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New Rivet with groove for E-Clip
New Rivet with groove for E-Clip
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E-Clip installed on Rivet
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killer solution, pro grade
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Nice work Hec!
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Very elegant solution!
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Absolutely perfect!
If I will not forget I will do same on PX 200 E GS.
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That's a cool idea. For some reason, mine mostly stay in place. Every year or so, they work themselves out a bit, but I just push the head back in.

I'd avoid hammering or bending because if you ever need to remove the door, it will be a hassle with a cutter or a grinder in such a small space.
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The quickest no effort way would be to use one of these.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253723925397?hash=item3b131fdb95
With a plain washer on first they Will hold up to the vibration.
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Jack221 wrote:
The quickest no effort way would be to use one of these.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253723925397?hash=item3b131fdb95
With a plain washer on first they Will hold up to the vibration.
Yup,
I considered those and the clips like those'd used to hold on the Cowl emblem. I figured the E-Clip would be the easiest to remove if I ever needed to, by reaching in with needle nose pliers and grabbing the clip and pulling it off. The washer I added moved the clip outward so I can grab it!👍

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Jack221 wrote:
The quickest no effort way would be to use one of these.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253723925397?hash=item3b131fdb95
With a plain washer on first they Will hold up to the vibration.
That is a good idea. Grinding out the original rivets was touchy as would be peening new ones.
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Howdy All!

Slow going on the scoot lately. We had two nice 8" snow storms and a week of subzero temps here. Spent my weekends manning the snow blower! Crying or Very sad emoticon
I got my Ginormous windshield cut down. It went pretty smooth. I used a Dremel with a cut off wheel and zipped the top and hand guards right off. I also drilled new upper mounting holes in the windshield as the old top ones stayed with the top half. I am finishing off the edges now. I also made new windshield mounts out of stainless steel rod. I didn't care for the black painted rods that came with it. I will polish the stainless rods up too! So everything is mocked up and the windshield is very solid now with very little flex.

Hec
Mocked up with black rods. Cell phone mount mounted too!
Mocked up with black rods. Cell phone mount mounted too!
Just need to polish the windshield  edges and stainless steel rods.
Just need to polish the windshield edges and stainless steel rods.
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Howdy All,

The windshield cut down is done! I polished up the windshield edges and they look better than the Faco finished ones. The new stainless steel mounts got shined up too. Ahhhhhh. much better!

Next up is the fuel tank! I'll be in Cincinnati this week so the fuel tank will be on hold till I get back.

Hec
From this monstrosity
From this monstrosity
To this!👍
To this!👍
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No progress updates dang it. I have been out of town for work. I'm back now. Just going through my to do list and need the following things to get done. She's getting close!

* Build fuel/Oil tank assembly and install
* Mount carb and hook up fuel line, oil line, choke and throttle cable
* Install shift selector box and adjust shift cables
* Hook up rear brake cable to rear brake actuator
* Hook up clutch cable to clutch arm
* Install glove box
* Mount Seat
* Mount rear passenger foot rest covers
* Mount BBQ Rack and chrome cowl guards
* Install new AGM battery
* Fill gear box with oil
* Torque front axle nut and dimple nut with hammer and punch.
* Torque rear axle nut and INSTALL COTTER PIN!
* Install rear mud flap

With the weather getting nicer I am getting more motivated!

Hec
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You'll still wind up adding numerous items to the to-do list before all is said and done. It's still exciting to be able to see the end of the line, though.
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You're way ahead of me. Amazing all those little things. You're definitely over the hump.
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