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First off, welcome! Second, nice choice in scooters! You'll learn all sorts of tricks for service work, educated suggestions for accessories and all sorts of other great information. I'm coming up on my next major service at 24,000 miles. Nothing on the Liberty is hard for a DIY mechanic. Again, welcome aboard!
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Welcome!

I grew up in Northern Nevada, but I can't imagine riding up there: too many long, straight, high speed roads (not to mention the snow); plus, the lack of lane splitting would drive me crazy. I suppose it's a bit different if you just use them as an alternate way to putt about town. There's plenty broken about SF, but the byways meandering through monumental nature are part of what has been keeping me here.

As for oil, I've had good luck with this pump top. Replaces the cap on a bottle of oil, and makes it easy to both control the quantity of oil and make sure it makes it in the hole.
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Welcome, skids!

Congrats on getting infected by the Scooter Variant and your scooter deals. I love hearing about The City. I grew up in Sonoma Co. and lived in Santa Rosa when the quake hit. The San Andreas certainly has built some breathtaking vistas in and around the Bay Area.

Post more pics and tell more stories. You've got the nack.
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I grew up in a family of bicycle/motorcycle enthusiasts and my happiest memories of childhood were on the back of my Dad's Heinkel scooter when I was still in elementary school. My dad would have me on the back, my younger brother in front, and our german shepherd on the floorboards. I am sure if there was youtube back then he would have gone to jail for the video evidence. To be honest we were never on the scooter all at the same time as far as I can remember but I definitely remember going to the county fair on the scooter with both my brother and me at the same time, and my Dad and our dog on the scooter many times. Definitely not legal now and probably not back then either.
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It reminds me of this iconic picture that was made probably in 1969 in Milano, Italia.
The whole family on the scooter.
Today you'd go to jail but back then no problem at all.
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A couple years ago I found a really good deal on a Liberty 50 that one of my neighbors here in Reno was selling on craigslist and I thought it would be perfect to introduce my kids to my lifelong passion but alas they did not take to it.
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Same problem here.
They love their car but nor my son, nor my daughter show interest in the scooter. I have a BV.
As you say alas.
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Hey, welcome, skidz!

Great introduction! What a story.

As far as mechanical wizards here, it's not all of us, but we can get things done. Sometimes entertainingly.
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No helmets even, wow!
"Helmets?? We don't need no steeking helmets!"

Well, but he said it in Italian...
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Is there a place to ride flat track in the neighborhood?
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It reminds me of this iconic picture that was made probably in 1969 in Milano, Italia.
The whole family on the scooter.
Today you'd go to jail but back then no problem at all.
I think perhaps there are still plenty of parts of rural Italy where this would still be considered a normal way of getting around the local neighbourhood.
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Hey Garthhh, I live in NW Reno just outside of the McCarron loop in one of the tract houses and there is nothing in my neighborhood. I have heard about a private track at KE Motorsports out by Stead but I have not been there yet.

While my family moved here in 2016 I did not get here until 2019. I had to stay back in the Midwest working and only got to visit my family here a few times until early in 2019. So I am relatively new here and while I did have relatives here and visited as a kid it has changed a bunch. I know they used to have speedway races here in Reno but can't remember where they were located. Might have been where they have the rodeo's now but that was in the early 70's. It would be awesome to connect with some old timers who actually remember that stuff I haven't been able to find out anything about it.

The flat track bike is a 99 sportster sport with the Phil Little steering head and some other parts. I am still trying to put together the wheels for it and while it runs it has been a back burner project while I am working on the house and a couple other things. Yet once again my alligator mouth has bitten off more than my sparrow butt can carry although I do like to be busy! Since I got the original offset steering head bracket from Phil he has come out with another one that works with a Davey Durelle triple tree setup that is wider to better accommodate the wider Mitas tires so I am considering heading in that direction.

How long have you been in Reno? Did you grow up here? In checking the threads I see we have similar fond experiences with Lucas equipped bikes! At least the Ducati didn't have the shakes that exacerbate the problem. I like your posts, and am hoping we can be friends! Are there any other Renoites in here?
We were in Mariposa on 33 acres with attached "rustic" house, horses, dogs, cats, rats & squirrels, state of jefferson, the otherside of the mountain
We can't tolerate the woodsmoke, pollen & such

My wife & I retired & downsized to a nice concrete box with a hepa filter downtown, in 2020, closing about 2 weeks before everything shut down
We started off fresh with a couple of Liberty's, but traded one for an MP3, which is easier to 2 up than a two wheeler

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I only ever slid around on dirt roads
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Thanks for the understanding Peter. I would think growing up in Belgium where they actually have a huge two wheeled culture it be more natural to be drawn to it. To each their own I guess.
It is true, there is a two wheeled culture here, mostly in the northern part of the country which is flat, but in the southern part there are hills and mountains and biking is not popular there at all.

But once 18 there is a shift from bicycle to car. Some people keep on using a bicycle for daily transport but most cycling you see is for leisure, mostly in the weekend on a racebicycle with adapted outfit or on an e-bike for the somewhat older.
Riding a motorcycle or a motorscooter is not that popular over here.

The BV is there. My children are not allowed to drive it on the road. They need an A2 drivers licence, which is a handicap that I do not have. But if they were interested there is enough opportunity to make a test drive somewhere not on public roads, but they never asked for that.
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I think perhaps there are still plenty of parts of rural Italy where this would still be considered a normal way of getting around the local neighbourhood.
We travel a lot to Italy. I like it there.

What I observe in daily scooter traffic is that:
- the clothing you wear as a pedestrian on the street = the clothing you wear on your scooter. So in summer when temperature is 30 - 35°C you ride the scooter with slippers, shorts and a T-shirt.
- most people wear a helmet, but in many cases the chinstrap is not fixed
- people in their riding the scooter are incredibly skillful, maybe because they are used to scooter driving since birth

In pre-corona 2019 summer we were staying in a small village somewhere south of Naples. The house we were staying was along the road to the village center a few km away.

There was an old woman with a bag walking towards the village center. She heard a scooter approaching and asked for a lift. No problem. Grandma as passenger without helmet or whatever and off they went.
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I have never been to Europe and only know about it from what I read. I thought all of Europe was extremely bicycle, motorcycle, scooter-centric.
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First on bicycles:
There is a big difference between bicycle racing on the one hand and bicycle for daily use on the other.

Bicycle racing is a very popular sport all over Europe. Number 2 after football (I mean the real football what you call soccer).
The first races are held from beginning of February and it goes on week after week, race after race until end of October.

Bicycles for daily use is concentrated in countries or areas where roads are flat. Denmark, the Netherlands, the northern part of Belgium. Elsewhere it is more motorized vehicles. It seems e-bikes are broadening the daily use of bicycles, logical since an e-bike is a motorcycle.

Motorcycles you will find everywhere but compared to cars the numbers are much lower. As an example in Belgium there are 5,5 million cars and half a million motorcycles.

Scooters you find a lot specifically in the south of Europe with its busy city centers, and hilly roads combined with nice weather. So in Greece, Italy, Spain, south of France, and I believe also in Austria very popular. Here in BE you don't see them so often. I ride a BV and so far in 3 years time I only met 3 other BV's on the road. Most motorcycles here are or very fast stuff or BMW GS (market leader) or tough Harley, or Harley-like things that make a lot of noise.
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Bicycle racing is a very popular sport all over Europe. Number 2 after football (I mean the real football what you call soccer).
The first races are held from beginning of February and it goes on week after week, race after race until end of October.

I think cycle racing is in the DNA of most Belgians. It's all encompassing in the national psyche. Not just road racing, but cyclo-cross and track racing too.

I absolutely love the Cobbled Classics from the 'Omloop' to 'La Doyenne' they all test the riders ability, not just their fitness and endurance, but also their bike handling abilities. On a wet day, watching the riders tackling the many sections of often steep cobbled 'pave', trying just to simply remain upright is awe-inspiring.
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I think cycle racing is in the DNA of most Belgians. It's all encompassing in the national psyche. Not just road racing, but cyclo-cross and track racing too.

I absolutely love the Cobbled Classics from the 'Omloop' to 'La Doyenne' they all test the riders ability, not just their fitness and endurance, but also their bike handling abilities. On a wet day, watching the riders tackling the many sections of often steep cobbled 'pave', trying just to simply remain upright is awe-inspiring.
Those are the races held in spring sort of around easter.

Traditionally and as long as I know we always had family gathering at easter. And most years at that day it was or the Tour of Flanders or Paris-Roubaix (this year it is Paris-Roubaix).

After a good meal at somewhere 2 or 3 in the afternoon the TV was switched on and everyone gathered around the TV to follow the race. At around 5 it was the finish and then it was time for cake and coffee and for comment and discussion on the race.

I think it went like this in many, many family's over here.
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