Modern Vespa

The bottom needle looks like it's missing the rubber tip, may just be the lighting.


Spring loaded are better, PM if you need one

The top one was a worse fit.

just the lighting, and I pm'd you thx man!

I have a phbl 28 with the malossi conversion kit i got as an extra when I bought my P200 (its still in the packaging) and I am thinking of just installing that carb instead. I have the longer cables, the manifold and everything else needed. I tried to find installtion vids/ posts but only found one on throttle cable install.

What do you guys think? worth it? any good links?

Found this Italian one! but its more about the carb itself
This one is good

What kit did you install there?

I have a pinasco 215 on it

The PHBH 30 can be a good match to the kit, especially with the right exhaust. You'll need to get it set up, though, or you're going to seize it. Honestly, though, you took that risk on as soon as you put a non-stock top end on it, now we're just negotiating degrees.

How are your carb tuning skills?

Side drafts are a different beast than SI's, both for better and for worse. You may also need to get a larger throttle pulley up in the headset, but I'm not certain about that.

I thought the Pinasco 215 would set up just fine with a stock carb, other than minor jet changes.

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This...

Don't bother with the Pinasco. Just an overpiced, "stockish" ally kit, designed and stuck in the 80s...

Im torn because I have a new phbl carb, just sitting there mocking me… and a floody spaco. But you all make sense so Im gonna listen

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a new spaco will be worth the lack of frustration in dialing in that modern carb. just the brass bits you will need to jet it (the phb) in will cost more than the spaco replacement.

Yea It hasn't worked out well when I have tried to cut corners in the past....

This. I've literally spent more on additional main jets and N48 needles for my Smallstate's carb than the price of Spaco. And I *already had a bunch of Keihin main & idle jets*!

You "should" have luck with just a spring-loaded needle and seat inspection/cleaning.

If you do end up needing another SI, the BGM faster-flow 24/24 should tune better than the 26/26 there. Not much more $ for a better carb vs a Spaco not reworked in Europe.

They still have the frustrating mixture screw, though. You can cut it to the 1st hex and cut a slot in the head for a screwdriver, or get the BGM "short" screw.

https://www.scooter-center.com/en/carburettor-bgm-pro-faster-flow-dellorto/spaco-si24/24e-vespa-px200-type-with-autolube-bgm8570

https://www.scooter-center.com/en/fuel/air-mixture-screw-bgm-pro-conversion-short-si20/20d-si24/24e-si24/24h-thread-m5-x-0.50mm-thin-pin-oe-0.65mm-type-vespa-px-with-slotted-screw-used-as-conversion-fine-thread-long/hexagon-to-fine-thread-short-slotted-screw-bgm7305


Spaco needle seat defect before repair.

Well my click finger got impulsive and I got a new spaco 26 from Dave at scooter mercato.

Not too bad… I will prob re do it later on down the road but for now it is good enough!

Your "good enough" is my "exceeded expectations."

Looks great! The lines are perfect.

thanks got some bubbles to get out...not too many though

Welp got the new Spaco, hooked it up and guess what Its ALIVE!! Runs strong, and now have to play with the jetting and hook up the speedo, one more blinker bar light, stickers on the front fender and ride it around. There is an air bubble in the oil line but I read that will be there for a bit till it gets all the way up, is this correct? I added oil to the gas for now....so excited!

How big of a bubble? I had a small one, however it was gone after a short ride, maybe 5 miles.

Its about an inch and a half. Its been rainy so haven't ridden too much yet. However I hooked up all the remaining electronics, installed the speedo and did all the extra little things that add up and now Im excited to break her in! (just have front decals left and glovebox install!

This pic is just before speedo install but after bar end blinkers. I will post more pics tomorrow

It looks great!!

I love the series 2. My first bike when I was 16 was a series 2 TV. Still sad I sold it.

After speedo install. Hopefully you can see the blinkers on!

You have to take it on a ride through Sonoma and get some glamour shots.

Totally! so cold and rainy right now! brrrrrr

Frontside!

Gorgeous. The color looks so nice.

That thing looks simply amazing. Well done!

Its that Sunshine Lemon Yellow that glows so bright

Thanks Geeklion! you made it all possible by parting ways with it back in march of '21

YOU are the one that made it all possible! by busting your azzz to build a beautiful machine. I'm happy this project is back on 2 wheels, instead of collecting dust in my shop. Great work

Got a nice surprise from @MJRally he sent me a mount for my tachometer to try out! Worked great and easy to install. On the ride it seemed solid! Oh and I stopped by SF Scooter center and got the proper tail light!