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I am curious if it would be safe on the transmission of my MP3 if I tow it behind my travel trailer, using a pair (2 units, one for each front wheel) of 800lb Motorcycle Scooter Carrier 2" Tow Receiver Trailer Hauler Hitch Mount Rack, like the ones for sale at Walmart, attached to 2 hitches on the rear bumper, leaving the rear wheel on the ground?

My concern is regarding the description that mention: "This type of trailer is for manual transmission motorcycles & scooters" having the MP3 an automatic transmission

Appreciate your comments
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Looks very flimsy. I would avoid driving behind anybody trailering a bike or anything else in that way.

Here is a pic of a proper way to tow a MP3.
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Hi, Yes, yours is ideal, but the problem is the double tow, not only is forbidden in some states and make it impossible to reverse without removing that dollie. The walmart item is rated for 800 pounds, and using 2 units, means you will lay 260 pounds on each, a safety margin quite good. My doubt is on the transmission of the MP3, may it suffer by having the rear wheel spinning at 75 miles per hour, with the engine turned off.?
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Hi, Yes, yours is ideal, but the problem is the double tow, not only is forbidden in some states and make it impossible to reverse without removing that dollie. The walmart item is rated for 800 pounds, and using 2 units, means you will lay 260 pounds on each, a safety margin quite good. My doubt is on the transmission of the MP3, may it suffer by having the rear wheel spinning at 75 miles per hour, with the engine turned off.?
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The back wheel, the reducer & bell will spin, but not the clutch, pulleys & belt
Should be fine

I looked at this as a solution too, so I could tow behind my car, without having a trailer to store
I was more concerned with the locked up front suspension
Maybe disconnect/remove the shock lockout
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In all my years of biking, scooters tend to bounce around when being towed especially at the rear end.

I simply would never tow a mp3 using a simple metal bracket strapped to a hitch receiver.
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Many thanks Garthhh and Sbaert, very valid and valued opinions, I can easily visualize most probable damages now, either to the front suspension locking mechanism as to the rear springs, as both are very prone to happen. The picture shows a Dirt Bike, those for sure are ok with that type of towing by their design strength.
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cdavidgomezp wrote:
I am curious if it would be safe on the transmission of my MP3 if I tow it behind my travel trailer, using a pair (2 units, one for each front wheel) of 800lb Motorcycle Scooter Carrier 2" Tow Receiver Trailer Hauler Hitch Mount Rack, like the ones for sale at Walmart, attached to 2 hitches on the rear bumper, leaving the rear wheel on the ground?

My concern is regarding the description that mention: "This type of trailer is for manual transmission motorcycles & scooters" having the MP3 an automatic transmission

Appreciate your comments
My advice would be get a professional to take your scooter to where you want to go, it is a good investment, any small error and you would not just lose your scooter, but maybe harm others and that is not what you want just to save few dollars.
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I be curious as to how much the tilt lock on the MP3 can take. Asking it to steady the bike when parked is one thing, asking it to hold the machine upright while its towed around an off ramp at 50 mph is an entirely different matter. I think you would have to be careful how you secure the machine, do you use the tilt lock or not?
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Notice when you rock it with the front locked, you feel the tires flex, all the lock stuff is robust

Two proper wheel chocks?

The real dealbreaker is the lack of articulation between the scooter & the tow vehicle
The back tire on the mp3 would have to slide sideways when cornering
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Why can't it be attached to the rear wheel? I would use this method of towing. To turn the front wheels....
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If I had one of these rigs, I would give it a try, it would allow the tilt to be unlocked
My guess
Jacking up the rear is going to make the front twitchy
The front may just go all the way to one stop & stay there with the steeper steering angle
Chances of success would be higher if the rear is close to the ground
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Look at how much that thing flexes downward with just the wheel of a dirtbike on it, which is a featherweight compared to a MP3.

Just doesn't look like a quality product or a smart idea.

Rolling the MP3 onto the back of a pickup or inside a van and strapping it down would be my choice if you don't want to invest in a trailer.
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