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Just a word of warning...Did the malossi kit bump the displacement over the 280cc max displacement limit?
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I'll throw my name in the hat to drive support.

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Can teams enter; whereby multiple riders are used on alternate days?
Nope.

One rider only.
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What is this line item? Using toll roads which offer a more efficient route or avoid traffic with a toll tag, etc..?
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Can teams enter; whereby multiple riders are used on alternate days?
NO . 1 rider per scooter 1 scooter per rider ONLY.

teams for support resources sure, spares, tools, hauling broken scoots ect is great
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You are allowed to carry a passenger, but they aren't allowed to do anything in terms of operating the scooter or keeping track of your time, or taking the photos. If you're riding like cannonballers are meant to, you basically end up with a large duffelbag behind you that keeps screaming at you to slow down.
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Thanks for the replies. Approaching 60 and like many the Cannonball is intriguing but the idea of getting my as# handed to me for 10 days straight is not but maybe riding every 3rd day would be doable. The real appeal is with the finding a barn find scoot bringing up to transcon spec, keeping it going for the duration of the race and helping others do the same. The competitive race times doesn't even register with me. Maybe in the future there will be a "teams" style grouping so people can share the load.
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Thanks for the replies. Approaching 60 and like many the Cannonball is intriguing but the idea of getting my as# handed to me for 10 days straight is not but maybe riding every 3rd day would be doable. The real appeal is with the finding a barn find scoot bringing up to transcon spec, keeping it going for the duration of the race and helping others do the same. The competitive race times doesn't even register with me. Maybe in the future there will be a "teams" style grouping so people can share the load.
So grab a couple of buddies and do the ride.
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I'm just 3 years behind you and riding for 15 hours isn't really an issue.

Just tell your body that's what it's going to do and you do it.
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Until I have confirmation of my registration, I'll treat it like trying to get the most difficult concert tickets of the summer.
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I'll throw my name in the hat to drive support.

Just sayin
I may take you up on that Bill...I have several other riders interested in this area of the US. I can likely borrow a trailer and I would need to scrounge a vehicle, but getting a driver is always a tough ask.
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I may take you up on that Bill...I have several other riders interested in this area of the US. I can likely borrow a trailer and I would need to scrounge a vehicle, but getting a driver is always a tough ask.
My better half is also interested in being part of the fun in some capacity. She is planning on taking our Tacoma along the route.

I realize there is an official support vehicle process.. this is more of a 'hey, we live one town over from the starting line and have a truck.'

That's about as far as we've gotten this early, but as things get buttoned up we can see about offering options to haul gear. Even if it's just hotel to hotel.
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Thanks for the replies. Approaching 60 and like many the Cannonball is intriguing but the idea of getting my as# handed to me for 10 days straight is not but maybe riding every 3rd day would be doable. The real appeal is with the finding a barn find scoot bringing up to transcon spec, keeping it going for the duration of the race and helping others do the same. The competitive race times doesn't even register with me. Maybe in the future there will be a "teams" style grouping so people can share the load.
APPROACHING 60????? hell fire, youngster. LM15 is 75 and he has done 3 events. I am over 60 and have done 3 as well , only 1 over 60 .
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My better half is also interested in being part of the fun in some capacity. She is planning on taking our Tacoma along the route.

I realize there is an official support vehicle process.. this is more of a 'hey, we live one town over from the starting line and have a truck.'

That's about as far as we've gotten this early, but as things get buttoned up we can see about offering options to haul gear. Even if it's just hotel to hotel.
I organized a team of riders from Ohio for last year's event, which helped to defray operating costs and create new friendships. I borrowed a trailer from some club mates and a rooftop luggage carrier from a friend, and my son drove our Buick Enclave from Ohio to Maine to California and back to Ohio.

There will be an "official" support truck that you can buy into that will haul stuff from the start line to the finish line with stops at the official hotels every night. But that doesn't solve the logistics of getting your stuff (tools/parts/tires/clothes) to the start line and home from the finish line.

A "privateer" effort can save some hassle, but requires other commitments for vehicles and drivers.

Start planning early....
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My son drove our Buick Enclave from Ohio to Maine to California and back to Ohio.

Start planning early....
My son will be almost five so I have over a year to teach him how to hand off the correct socket and hex sizes to those in need. I most likely will not have him able to discern an IPA from a pilsner to hand out parking lot beers until he's closer to seven.

I'm a responsible parent.
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If you have money to spend or maybe just love amazon prime, this is a terrific event for you!

Rounded up to the nearest $5, these were my rider participation costs for 2021.

$370 - Fuel
$2,030 - Hotels (14 Nights, Single Occupancy)
$720 - Meals (14 Days)
$50 - Parks & Tolls
$200 - Support Truck
$340 - Tires (Purchase, Mounting, Balancing, etc)
$440 - Spare Parts, Consumables (Oil, Filters, Belts, etc)
$1,370 - Shipping Scooter California to Pennsylvania
$350 - Airfare California to Pennsylvania)

Total = $5,870

I had additional expenses that were splurges but they made it into the final spreadsheet (nosey accounting software).

$270 - Scooter Mods + Touratech Mount
$460 - Tech Upgrades + SPOT Tracker + New Camera
$90 - Toll Tool Kit/Roll Upgrades
$280 - Riding Gear Upgrades + PIN Lock + Gloves

Total = $1,100

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The $3-5k number seems to be consistent over the years but times are changing. Kinda like any good far off vacation, there are some expenses in the months leading up that we forget about. So think of the $3-5k as the final damage.

For 2023, 8 Day Event, 10 Days of travel, as a baseline...

Scooter Fuel - $300
Hotels (10 Nights) - $1500
Meals (10 Days) - $500
Shipping Scooter (One Way) - $1500
Total = $3800, that leaves $1200 in Scooter/flex budget...

Sharing a room with roommate or shipping circumstances can help that number. If you are within a days ride of the start or finish line, have riding gear and a scooter generally ready for touring, and your goal is to finish, you should be able to affordably participate.
And that is the sad reason I will probably never attend one. With 6000 Dollars I can get probably from Alaska to Argentina. And I would have to fly over and get my scoot and all. Well I did my two Coast2Coast Solo on my Stella 150. That must be good enough till I come over for Argentina.
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I'm just 3 years behind you and riding for 15 hours isn't really an issue.

Just tell your body that's what it's going to do and you do it.
For you that is easy peasy... !
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Can teams enter; whereby multiple riders are used on alternate days?
No, one bike and one rider is one entry. You cannot change scooters or riders. If you do and several rolled up to the finish line on a different scooter (and in at least one case on a motorcycle) after the scoot t eyes started with was unable to finish. They got the satisfaction of finishing the route but we're DNF from the day they were no longer scooter they started on.

There are teams but there are for support, aka breakdown and carrying spares/gear. Our team: Not Fast Just Curious was a full service support team picking up riders and broken scooter and able to carry both rider and says poteen go the end if necessary. 2023 will be more or less a rsprise of 2012 and no mandatory dirt. The following cannonball will return to "more varied terrain" of the last couple years.

Last cannonball there was an agreement with Motoshippers that provided pick up service for broken scooter to return them to their owners. That those who didn't have full support had an option available. Word I'd the same service along with special pricing for shipping to and/or from start/finish for cannonball participants.

Vintage have not only finished but finished well. 2010 and earlier had vintage class but 2012 switched to the current handicap system.

2012 was woman a highly modified 1946 Salisbury. Second place was a 1960 Allstate (Vespa), seventh a 1975 Vespa Rally and eight was 1977 P-200.

In 2014, 1986 Honda Helix placed fifth and 1971 Vespa Rally placed seventh.

2016, 1974 Vespa Rally finished fourth.

More info including spreadsheets of finishers is at https://scootercannonball.com/history
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Can anyone share the start time from San Clemente? I found the location but no start time.

If it works out, i'd drag the family over and see everyone off.
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There is no official start time. There is a group photo, I think it's around 6 AM, and then people take off when they want to.
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There is no official start time. There is a group photo, I think it's around 6 AM, and then people take off when they want to.
Appreciate it
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Not a requirement, but really inevitable are the various tech gear components:
Spot Tracker (this made my wife much more comfortable with the whole idea)
Helmet Camera
helmet com system even if only to really be able to hear your GPS
GPS, mount, and power system
Full Data cellphone
Full Data backup cellphone on a different carrier
charging system to be able to charge all of this stuff overnight at the hotel

Extra gasoline carrying system - even if you don't go crazy and plumb it in
Technical base layer for the weather expected (I had all kinds of cold weather gear, but needed a few things to be ready for ultra hot weather.)

And well, maybe, some extra money for speeding tickets.
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Maybe in the future there will be a "teams" style grouping so people can share the load.
Don't count on it. There are people who have won it that come up with "really good" ideas to make the event "better." The organizers don't listen to them either.
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all this talk of cannonball got me thinking... anybody looking to pick up a beater GTS250 to outfit up and make the run? I've got a few kicking around the back paddock that would be perfect candidates...
So, what would be the price for a GTS 250 that you've gotten cannonball ready? (No extra fuel tank or anything like that, just freshened up and long road worthy.)

I can see the appeal of not putting my daily rider through the stress of another cannonball.

What would be the price to include telephone support during the event?
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Registration opened yesterday.

126 riders already signed up.

Including me.

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Is it possible Motovista's handle is mis-spelled in the registration? ROFL emoticon
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Don't count on it. There are people who have won it that come up with "really good" ideas to make the event "better." The organizers don't listen to them either.
Laughing emoticon

As its current caretaker, teams are probably not in the event's near future. I catch enough shit on what the event has become or is and isn't! David, the organizer, and David, the participant, don't necessarily agree.
KimPossible wrote:
So, what would be the price for a GTS 250 that you've gotten cannonball ready? (No extra fuel tank or anything like that, just freshened up and long road worthy.)
With the increased cost of shipping factored in, a reputable west coast scooter peeps looking for a project bike could flip some Cannonball-ready Modern Vespas. GTS 250/300 would be ideal given the number of communal parts/spares and general parking lot knowledge.

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Registration opened yesterday... so far, in the first 22 hours, we've had 130 riders register - 95 are rookies, and 35 are return participants. More than anticipated. In 2019 we had 40 register on the first day, but at the 1-year mark, we had 135 signed up.

Generically by displacement...

10 - <= 125cc
31 - 150cc
6 - 200cc
12 - 250cc
49 - 278cc
22 - TBD

I am excited about the 150cc range for the bikes and the general competitiveness of those who ride them.

Regarding the starting and finish line festivities. Here is some basic info 2023 Scooter Cannonball Run which will be updated in the future, but there will be a full-day event on Saturday, June 17th in San Clemente. It will be held at a local brewery with plenty of parking lot space and will be open to the universe. The event has added some basic tech inspections at the starting line check-in that will take place on this day/location. The intent here is not to rip bikes apart but to ensure we have accurate/clean rider and scooter data in the system at the event's start.
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Please define team riding to me.
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Please define team riding to me.
there is NO team riding. there are teams that band together under 1 or more support vehicles to share those services.
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Please define team riding to me.
The proposed team riding would be more or less a relay where different riders on the same team ride segments. I don't see that ever happening on the cannonball That would be a different event and someone else would have to organize it.

Teams as used in the current cannonball are for support not shared riding. For example Not Fast Just Furious in 2021 consisted of 4 riders, 1 driver and 1 dog. The driver drove an F-150 pulling a motorcycle trailer. Gear and luggage the riders didn't need on the road were in bins in the truck and made available at the e end of the day. If a rider has a mechanical problem their scoot was put on the trailer and they had a seat in the truck until either the scooter was again roadworthy or the finish line was reached.
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there is NO team riding. there are teams that band together under 1 or more support vehicles to share those services.
That makes more sense to me now thanks.
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That makes more sense to me now thanks.
You do know they ate the dog when they got lost in the blizzard, right?
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CD which scooter are you riding?
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You do know they ate the dog when they got lost in the blizzard, right?
I wondered what the bottle of soy sauce was for.
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CD which scooter are you riding?
Probably my 2018 Vespa GTS
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USA Today updated their article on the 2023 Scooter Cannonball and the article is now free. https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/g...ooter-cannonball-2023-rider-vespa/7733997001/

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I did not participate in the initial flurry of hotel booking back in June '22, and now I'm pretty sure I will be sleeping under my scooter on a few nights.

Or in a van down by the river.
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2006 GTS 250
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Location: KS USA
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Shebalba wrote:
I did not participate in the initial flurry of hotel booking back in June '22, and now I'm pretty sure I will be sleeping under my scooter on a few nights.

Or in a van down by the river.
Maybe you should go undercover and tell them a sexy name like you are Raquel Monroe. ROFL emoticon
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2009 GTS250, Ducati Monster M900, KTM 390 Adventure, Honda CR125
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Location: Oceanside, CA
 
Molto Verboso
@shebalba avatar
2009 GTS250, Ducati Monster M900, KTM 390 Adventure, Honda CR125
Joined: UTC
Posts: 1576
Location: Oceanside, CA
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Max6200 wrote:
Maybe you should go undercover and tell them a sexy name like you are Raquel Monroe. ROFL emoticon
Who's them? And who said I do not already have a sexy name?
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