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Hi There,

I am upgrading my front brake system on my 2007 GTS 250, and wanted to find out if anyone has found a polished steel option for the brake rotor bolts? I am upgrading to the Brembo Caliper and the Zelioni Type 3 rotor. With such a nice finish on that rotor I'd like to find an equally attractive rotor bolt.

I know pro-bolt will happily sell me 316 Stainless Steel set, but I am leery of the material strength. link: https://www.probolt-usa.com/stainless-steel-disc-bolt-dome-m6x20mm-xs-front-pack-x-6-ss6discfb620xs/

There is the grade 5 titanium option:
https://www.probolt-usa.com/titanium-dome-head-bolt-m6x1-00mmx20mm-12mm-od/
* the head of this bolt is 5mm tall whereas the OEM bolt is 3mm tall, would there be clearance issues with the 2mm difference?


I don't mind the extra expense of the titanium if a steel version cannot be found. I just wonder if the grade 5 titanium is strong enough to use.

I ride spirited, and at times with my wife as a pillion. I am not one to sacrifice safety for vanity. If great looks can't be achieved with safety in mind then ugly unpolished steel it is.

Any advice is highly appreciated.

*as a side note I did upgrade the suspension system to the sip kit as the stock shocks started leaking at 25K miles.


Thank you,

HermosaBeachGuy
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ride like this and stop worrying https://modernvespa.com/forum/post2530382#2530382
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the stainless fasteners should be more than adequate. PB sells them as replacements for the specific application so I'd buy with confidence.

personally, I don't care for stainless fasteners so I can't speak to the aesthetic component but 316 is plenty strong.
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greasy125 wrote:
the stainless fasteners should be more than adequate. PB sells them as replacements for the specific application so I'd buy with confidence.

personally, I don't care for stainless fasteners so I can't speak to the aesthetic component but 316 is plenty strong.
I'll bite. Why don't you care for stainless?.
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Thank you greasy125 for the confirmation on the 316 stainless. Why are you not a fan?
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^^^

frankly, I just don't care for how they look. I'm not anti-bling, but I just like coated or stock hardware.

some of cheaper quality stuff has poor engagement with tools, like the manufacturing is just off enough that things strip super easy-- allen heads seem the most common, and by coincidence also tend to be used mostly in brake hardware that is always tight as balls and usually has a thread locker too.
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I agree with your post Greasy , so many times I've rounded the hex on a countersunk head screw and ended up having to loosen it with a centrepunch and hammer and this on a hi-tensile screw . Using stainless screws is not advisable in my humble opinion , the hexagon is too soft to take a lot of torque without " rounding off " .
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I dislike them only because drilling a broken SS stud is a pain.
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Buttonheads & flatheads are problematic, allen the worst, torx much better no matter the material
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frankly, anything stainless is just a pain in the ass.

the: I broke my rack or a crack in a pipe or broke off bolt- NBD get out the mig.

oh it's stainless. *groans loudly* goes to get the TIG *drags feet* sets everything up *sighs deeply* fineeeee. it's fiiiiinnnnnneeee.

10min turns into 2hrs.
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