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Ok. Better take it seriously.

Next, consider selling your car too. Since you were either born a natural driver, or it isn't for you.

We're doing God's work up in here. Is this what being a surgeon feels like?
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Bill Dog wrote:
No. take it seriously as I may have just saved your life.
I agree. Some people are just not cut out for riding a two wheeler. I personally know two people who have no business riding a scooter. They've had multiple accidents and incidents. I don't feel safe riding with either of them.
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It's good to know I can save a lot of money by skipping those off-road riding classes and instead can just let it rip on a dualsport. I'm either cut out for it or I ain't, right? Practice, education, and skills development don't mean anything. Facepalm emoticon

I would never have figured out that the trick to the slow-speed tight-turn figure eight thing is to shift your butt if no one had told me.
Education.
Practice.
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Here's another one. Take the class! It's not just about passing the test it's learning everything about riding safely with traffic and other motorcycles. They will show you the formations for riding in groups and what to watch out for on the road.

I had a friend that didn't take the course. He ended up in an accident that shattered his pelvis and now walks like a pirate with a straight leg.
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+1 on taking the MC Safety Course. Automatic license after passing. Just get it booked and done and save on headaches of the DMV an hour away.
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Don't give up!

Good luck next time round.

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Apart from anything else you'll find it very enjoyable.
Completed the MSF course last weekend and yes, it was very enjoyable. Spent two days vrooming around cones on a Kawasaki Z125. I chose this for the 12" wheels which is most common on a lot of scooters.

First day of riding was in the rain! Great practice for those unexpected rainy rides.

Went for a twisty ride yesterday to reinforce the concepts of S.P.A.T and A3. Riding has become more fun for sure, but I noticed I have so much more situational awareness now.

BTW, the Lollipop was much easier feathering a clutch and using the rear foot brake for me.
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CaliScooterGuy wrote:
well, failed again for the second time to pass the California riding skills test, this time my front wheel went out of the inner circle, i cant seem to pass this thing. i get all psyched out when i have to take the test and tense up i cant relax, they make u wait for an hour when u get to the dmv and if u make one mistake youre disqualified. it doesnt help that the nearest dmv with a course is an hour away, makes practicing and testing more of an ordeal. Tried to set up a practice course in a local parking lot but its not easy when the rain keeps erasing your chalk marks.
Does the tension, the stress make you underperform?
Do you think if relaxed the test would be easy for you?
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Those were my thoughts as well Peter, just like taking a welding test for a job if you are too nervous it doesn't ever go well.

The thing that removes the nervousness is enough practice to the point of confidence overcoming the nerves.
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Exactly. So the advice to Caliscooterguy is to practice and do more difficult exercices than the ones you will get on the test.
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How many times have you actually tried to knit?
And I mean really tried to, like it mattered a lot.
I am curious as to the scenarios you envisioned where it matters a lot if someone can knit.
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I am curious as to the scenarios you envisioned where it matters a lot if someone can knit.
My wife, for one, takes it very seriously.
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I am curious as to the scenarios you envisioned where it matters a lot if someone can knit.
the 1700's when you're finalizing the details of a dowery

or, hear me out, what if the predator is chasing you and, you're like, just totally out of bullets but there's like, all this yarn and man, it's just like, everywhere so what if you could like, totally knit a trap for the predator? that'd be pretty important, right?

I mean, these are just but two examples where knitting would matter a lot.
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You're snowed in in a New England blizzard. Power's out again. You've only got so much firewood for the wood stove, but there's a flock ton of woolly yarn and knitting a sweater, scarf, & socks would go a long way to making sure the woodpile won't run out.
Get clicking.
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Was down and out for awhile work place "accident". Being broken again messed with my head. I took the MSF course after decades of riding. I was glad I did. I served as the "bad habit" example. I was also the oldest by far in the class, had a couple years on the instructor. Upon graduating you get a form "CHP approved motorcycle training endorsement" to take to the Ca DMV. Still got the form as I already had my M1 endorsement. Many insurance companies give a "discount" on your policy if you're "CHP endorsed".

Also check the "providers/trainers" location. Two in my area one at a local Junior College and the other at an old air strip had the painted course, no cones or objects (road debris) open to anyone as long as the gate was open.
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Was down and out for awhile work place "accident". Being broken again messed with my head. I took the MSF course after decades of riding. I was glad I did. I served as the "bad habit" example.
(...)
And what were then your bad habits?
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And what were then your bad habits?
Oh, resting your left hand on your thigh during the "big right sweeper" was not looked to kindly on for one.
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Oh, resting your left hand on your thigh during the "big right sweeper" was not looked to kindly on for one.
is the pre-cursor to Netflix and chill?
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is the pre-cursor to Netflix and chill?
That would be a no.
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Oh, resting your left hand on your thigh during the "big right sweeper" was not looked to kindly on for one.
It sounds logical to me to keep both hands at the steering bar. Not too difficult, I would say.
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It sounds logical to me to keep both hands at the steering bar. Not too difficult, I would say.
That's not exactly how the MSF instructor yelled it. It's just I was having so damn much fun on that little 125. It was a blast. Got me thinking about small displacement bikes and dare I say scooters. Oh, wait I'm on my second scooter. Damn that MSF course anyway.
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Duck,

In the advanced riding course, the instructors actually taught us to
weave between cones one handed. I do not think they recommended
riding with one handed. We just did it as a skill test.

Bob Copeland
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greasy125 wrote:
the 1700's when you're finalizing the details of a dowery

or, hear me out, what if the predator is chasing you and, you're like, just totally out of bullets but there's like, all this yarn and man, it's just like, everywhere so what if you could like, totally knit a trap for the predator? that'd be pretty important, right?

I mean, these are just but two examples where knitting would matter a lot.
Why stop there?

*EDIT Technically its crochet.
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Bob Copeland wrote:
Duck,

In the advanced riding course, the instructors actually taught us to
weave between cones one handed. I do not think they recommended
riding with one handed. We just did it as a skill test.

Bob Copeland
as a former instructor myself , that was never part of the instruction material by MSF. that was some roge instructor deviating from course material.
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Bob Copeland wrote:
Duck,

In the advanced riding course, the instructors actually taught us to
weave between cones one handed. I do not think they recommended
riding with one handed. We just did it as a skill test.

Bob Copeland
There was a time when I could ride my bicycle all the way home from school (~2 miles, with plenty of turns) and never touch the handlebars. Long time ago...
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The OP wants to get the M1 endorsement. Enough bad examples and a cliché. Do as I say, not as I do.

Good luck OP. Practice with someone knowledgeable watching.

Piss Poor Practice is a Precursor to Piss Poor Performance and Phucking up.
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