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Buy and pick up this beauty. Edit this was originally a helping a friend thread. Said friend then sells this scooter to me. Now the beginning of this thread won't be as odd.
Me excited for another scoot in my shop for a while.
Gave her a corner to hang in for the next few months.
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Runs fine. Nothing major or minor really needs to be done. 62 ish Allstate just like Qascoter's. B-62jr.
Tires are old. Pogo fork may get swapped for a Vespa fork. Needs a new seat cover which I have for him. Ripped around the parking lot for a bit and first thing I noticed was, good lord these are slow! 😂 He got it for $1960. Gave the guy $2k and he gave back $40 for gas. Super awesome guy. Works at a car/motorcycle museum in Hershey. My friend is super stoked, as am I as I now have a friend to wrench and ride with. USA USA USA!!! This is one of the guys other scooters that is in the museum. '56 handlebar jammer.
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chandlerman wrote: NICE! New projects showing up right and left right now. I love it! |
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Yeah, I had a friend who'd had me on the lookout. She's going to take the Stella that comes with the Smallstate I'm buying. Electric start, neutral light, etc. will be a good fit for her.
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Cool. I see a split headset that isn't bashed to shit. Keep it original!
Or not. Your choice. |
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Probably gonna be in a minority here, but thumbs-up on the CV80 Beluga.
You have to really love the weird ones to bang on those. Slow, thirsty, lousy electricals. Hopefully it's a later model. |
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az_slynch wrote: Probably gonna be in a minority here, but thumbs-up on the CV80 Beluga. You have to really love the weird ones to bang on those. Slow, thirsty, lousy electricals. Hopefully it's a later model. |
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One good thing is it's got a VNB engine that's not piston ported. So upgrading it to a useable speed won't be too hard.
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FridayMatinee wrote: That's an 84. Still trying to find a part for it so I can start rebuilding it. Keep forgetting to message Kyle at Kyle's scooter shop about it. It's def a weird one that's for sure. |
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greasy125 wrote: oddly... what do you need for it? I have a mountain of parts from, uhhh... things and stuffs... and while I threw out an absolute shit-tonne, I may have what you need. Proudest moment was finding a Polini pipe for it. Why? Dunno, just the fact that somebody made some sort of performance part for those was appreciated. ⚠️ Last edited by az_slynch on UTC; edited 1 time
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az_slynch wrote: I might have one of those lurking about too. Same year/color. Hoping to get to it in my lifetime. I may be interested in things and stuffs too. |
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greasy125 wrote: oddly... what do you need for it? I have a mountain of parts from, uhhh... things and stuffs... and while I threw out an absolute shit-tonne, I may have what you need. |
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FridayMatinee wrote: I'll keep you posted. I honestly don't remember. I wanna say it was something dumb like a vacuum hose or something along those lines. It's been sitting for a few years and I didn't write shit down unfortunately so once I get back into it I'll holler at ya. Thanks sir! |
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az_slynch wrote: Kajiit must have a massive underground bunker of weird scooter crap. Which both amuses and concerns me. |
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FridayMatinee wrote: The extent of the "rust". Easy clean up on that. actual time and work: 6 beers a taco break and ballgame on the transistor. |
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greasy125 wrote: difficulty level: 2.5 beers actual time and work: 6 beers a taco break and ballgame on the transistor.
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FridayMatinee wrote: He got it for $1960. Gave the guy $2k and he gave back $40 for gas. Super awesome guy. Works at a car/motorcycle museum in Hershey. My friend is super stoked, as am I as I now have a friend to wrench and ride with. USA USA USA!!! Same same
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Registration had been updated since then. Says it's a 63 on the registration but the motor and frame both date to 62.
Guy was super nice. I saw it for sale twice before too. When it came up again I let my friend know, if I had the cash right now I would have grabbed it. But I'm also in the mood to rebuild and this one doesn't need much at all. It's a runner. Just slow slow slow. I tried real hard to pop a wheelie which on my bike I have to try real hard NOT to wheelie. |
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WOW - right on FM! Like Greasy said, new donuts and roll it!
Very nice of you to pick it up for your friend. I paid $1,700, delivered, many many moons ago. No blanking plate, someone stole it. The previous owner was pissed. Mine was registered as a 62 and the VIN was the engine number. I had it moved to the chassis number so now I can put whatever engine in and not worry about the man... It's probably a VNB2 engine, three speed. Mine is anyway. I did a bunch so it'd go over 45 mph, electronic ignition, Pinasco 177 kit, speedo, front end rework, and the latest, a very cool side stand and helmet hook. Ha! What's the Sears tag on that one? Also, whats the engine number start with?
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FridayMatinee wrote: The extent of the "rust". Easy clean up on that. |
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swa45 wrote: I love that brake pedal. Is that standard attire for Vespas of this vintage? I'm a 70's and later type of guy, so haven't seen these real oldies up close |
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qascooter wrote: WOW - right on FM! Like Greasy said, new donuts and roll it! Very nice of you to pick it up for your friend. I paid $1,700, delivered, many many moons ago. No blanking plate, someone stole it. The previous owner was pissed. Mine was registered as a 62 and the VIN was the engine number. I had it moved to the chassis number so now I can put whatever engine in and not worry about the man... It's probably a VNB2 engine, three speed. Mine is anyway. I did a bunch so it'd go over 45 mph, electronic ignition, Pinasco 177 kit, speedo, front end rework, and the latest, a very cool side stand and helmet hook. Ha! |
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Today I helped him learn how to drive the Allstate. And boy did we have fun. Took him a while to figure out getting out of first but once he did we decided to go rip around the city. Started out at my house then took the river drives into the heart of the city. What a gorgeous day. No new donuts for his bike though. We checked them before we left and the tires had no cracks and only had maybe 10 miles on them? They are pretty much brand new. Sweet. Stopped at the coffee shop for pastries first then headed down town for lunch. What a perfect day. 70° Sunny and scoots. A plus.
Things I learned. Don't really need a front brake. Rode all day without the cable attached. Put about 25miles on her and had a blast. Hit 61.1 mph on the way back when I decided to use the GPS app to see my speed. Ready to go.
First stop. Pastries! Lemon bars to be exact.
The lemon bar.
Stop for burritos!
Speed check on the way home. Throttle didn't go past 3/8th. This thing is wicked FAST. I doubt I'll even ever get to a WOT situation.
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qascooter wrote: Right on - welcome to the 60/8s club! Looks like a fabulous day! |
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Leaked a bunch of fuel when he parked it for the night. Forgot to warn him about leaving the fuel tap open. Whoops.
So I had him take the plug out and kick it over a bunch to try to clear it out. That didn't help, he put the plug back in and still couldn't get it to not die out idling. Spark plug is pretty pretty dark and he said he was sputtering at WOT when we rode. Had him take the plug out and let it sit for awhile before trying again after cleaning the plug with a wire brush. Going to clean the carb out too but am I missing any suggestions before the carb getting cleaned? His plug looks like my Yamaha plug which I know is very rich as it has a devil of a time restarting when warm. Dunno what his jetting is yet. Once I know that I can report back. |
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Assuming its stock, the Allstate should be like the 125 VNB. Clogged fuel tap filter maybe?
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Oh, is this that one that had the speedo blanking plate? I saw that on Facebook Marketplace. I've met that guy too when he was selling a VBB that I almost bought before finding my smallframe.
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garncarz wrote: Assuming its stock, the Allstate should be like the 125 VNB. Clogged fuel tap filter maybe? |
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r_fostoria wrote: Oh, is this that one that had the speedo blanking plate? I saw that on Facebook Marketplace. I've met that guy too when he was selling a VBB that I almost bought before finding my smallframe. |
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I love those blanking plates. If anyone has a spare to let go, I'll bite. Would look great with my piles of other random junk
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FridayMatinee wrote: Can't believe a speedo was an upgraded option back then lol. |
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GeekLion wrote: I love those blanking plates. If anyone has a spare to let go, I'll bite. Would look great with my piles of other random junk |
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