Yes!!
Congrats on the money burn…
I'm still waiting on the egig 170…
It's been like 3 months, but feels like forever…
Waiting on blowing up engines together!
Which carb you thinking of?
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Congrats on the money burn… I'm still waiting on the egig 170… It's been like 3 months, but feels like forever… Waiting on blowing up engines together! Which carb you thinking of? |
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I would have expected a better crank than a Mazzi. I don't know which one you got but the "Uncle Tom" 54mm crank isn't too expensive and beats any Mazzi in terms of quality (made by Primatist)…
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Oh that reminds me, did you buy another primary/clutch basket?
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SaFiS wrote: I would have expected a better crank than a Mazzi. I don't know which one you got but the "Uncle Tom" 54mm crank isn't too expensive and beats any Mazzi in terms of quality (made by Primatist)… 108 wrote: Oh that reminds me, did you buy another primary/clutch basket? If I'm not mistaken the egig one finger clutch won't fit into a stock basket… I can triple check, but pretty positive it doesn't because of the plates it uses ![]() 108 wrote: Yes!! Congrats on the money burn… I'm still waiting on the egig 170… It's been like 3 months, but feels like forever… Waiting on blowing up engines together! Which carb you thinking of? And of course, while ScooterCenter already sent me a tracking number, USAA decided to mark the SIP transaction as fraud, even though it was half the amount of SC, so I had one of those lovely "Bitte Zahlung freigeben!" emails in my inbox when I woke up this morning. As to carbs, I'm probably going with either a PWK or PWM. Still need to read up a little on the PWM, but it's basically the newer iteration of the PWK. I will probably start by stealing the PWK34 off the GL just to get some baselines, then size the the final carb based on RPM numbers I get from those tests. I expect it'll wind up in the 34-36mm range, whatever I go with. I'd do a SmartCarb if I had another grand to blow on it, but unless unexpected good things happen to me in the next couple months, that'll probably have to remain a pipe dream. |
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Happily, SIP just sent me a shipping confirmation, too, so depending on the vagaries of moving things from A to B, I could be making the magic happen as soon as next weekend.
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chandlerman wrote: And if I can't...what's another $30 in shipping at this point... ![]() chandlerman wrote: As to carbs, I'm probably going with either a PWK or PWM. Still need to read up a little on the PWM, but it's basically the newer iteration of the PWK. Would be interesting on the pwm. Wonder if it's any good? chandlerman wrote: I'd do a SmartCarb if I had another grand to blow on it, but unless unexpected good things happen to me in the next couple months, that'll probably have to remain a pipe dream. |
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108 wrote: Made me chuckle… 108 wrote: Sounds like a good choice… I did think about the small tank though… maybe it's not a problem? Would be interesting on the pwm. Wonder if it's any good? Most of what I've read about the PWM at this point is basically marketing. I'd like to find some discussion of it in the wild, most likely in the dirt bike/motocross world, I expect, and if they are liking it, I'll probably go that direction. Otherwise, back to my trusty ol' PWK. 108 wrote: Not convinced on the smart carb, I was nearly swayed by cm2 but until I see it in the wild, will probably stick with keihin and dellorto |
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My choice for carrying fuel are these products:
MRP bottle holder from Scooter Mercato (come in right and left side versions) https://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/MRP And Hundsdorf fuel bottles from SIP. (Come in 1l, 1,5l and 2 l versions) https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/search/Fuel%20cansHundsdorf?model=eyJzY29vdGVyVHlwZSI6IntcIm5hbWVcIjpcIlZlc3BhIDEyNVxcXC8xNTBcXFwvUmFsbHkgJzU3LVwiLFwic2x1Z1wiOlwiVDZcIixcImRpbWVuc2lvblwiOntcIm5hbWVcIjpcIktMQVNTSUsgVkVTUEFcIixcInVuaXF1ZW51bWJlclwiOjIsXCJwb3NpdGlvblwiOjEwLFwiYXBpQ29uZmlnX3BhdGhcIjpcInNjb290ZXJcXFwvY2F0ZWdvcmllc1wifSxcImFwaUNvbmZpZ19wYXRoXCI6XCJzY29vdGVyXFxcL3R5cGVzXCJ9In0%3D&dim=2 I admit that I like gadgets and there are more cost effective ways to Carry extra fuel. Just like how uncluttered it keeps things. ![]()
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A storage/carry rack like that with a non-improvised jerry can looks like just the ticket. Gracias!
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Smart Carb - I like the quick to tune/ quick to tune to perfection nature.
Fuel economy for a performance engine is certainly good. Im getting low /mid 20s HP with only 180° of exhaust duration and 175° of inlet duration. On a rotary sub 200cc. That translates to a lotta useable power band and grunt. I suppose with time and some fiddling about - I could get a std side draft tuned in as well. The state of tune itself seems superb - and that's part of the game that is easier to achieve with the SC. |
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charlieman22 wrote: Smart Carb - I like the quick to tune/ quick to tune to perfection nature. Fuel economy for a performance engine is certainly good. Im getting low /mid 20s HP with only 180° of exhaust duration and 175° of inlet duration. On a rotary sub 200cc. That translates to a lotta useable power band and grunt. I suppose with time and some fiddling about - I could get a std side draft tuned in as well. The state of tune itself seems superb - and that's part of the game that is easier to achieve with the SC. Is the ease of dialing it in the main selling point? How does it work to target 12.7:1 (max power) instead of 14.7:1(optimal AFR)? Can you comment on ease of tuning versus "traditional" carbs? |
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chandlerman wrote: CM2, you're the only person I know who's running a smart carb (and doing so quite successfully ), but I don't recall if you ever ran a PWK or PHBH... Is the ease of dialing it in the main selling point? How does it work to target 12.7:1 (max power) instead of 14.7:1(optimal AFR)? Can you comment on ease of tuning versus "traditional" carbs? I mean, of course it isn't ideal when stuff overheats and blows up. But most dyno info, usually points to smaller jetting being more peak HP |
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108 wrote: Honest question, isn't lean conditions usually more power? I mean, of course it isn't ideal when stuff overheats and blows up. But most dyno info, usually points to smaller jetting being more peak HP ![]() |
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The specific values for best economy and bet power vary by a LOT of factors, especially exact fuel type (E85/90/etc, octane, etc.) but the fundamental relationship is always going to be what it is, regardless of 2- or 4-stroke.
Also, if you think about it, inverting the relationship doesn't fundamentally make sense. How could less fuel produce more power? |
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richer mixes make max power until all the oxygen is utilized. if there is oxygen that hasn't been used, you have left power on the table. going further will just result in poor combustion of the additional fuel with higher HC and CO emissions.
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Makes sense, but trying to get my head around it…
Another honest question, So 14:7 afr would be that ratio, that all the air is used? Or is it that "air" is actually oxygen plus other stuff? And that theres more power with richer jetting? |
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108 wrote: Makes sense, but trying to get my head around it… Another honest question, So 14:7 afr would be that ratio, that all the air is used? Or is it that "air" is actually oxygen plus other stuff? And that theres more power with richer jetting? 14.7 is the theoretical ratio needed for complete combustion - the air needed to fully burn the fuel, but stuff like mixing poorly gets in the way. 12.5:1 is where most engines want to be to overcome those inefficiencies - you are adding more fuel to be sure you use all the oxygen. you don't want/need that rich for part throttle but you want it at WOT. |
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Prep work (i.e. further blowing the project budget) continues along with general planning.
I'm really struggling to find tires & (tubeless) rims right now. Normally, I'd go with Heidenau, but they don't seem to have restarted their scooter production lines yet, and every 2.10x10 or 90/90-10 tire I look at is either J-rated or not available. So I'm open to tire suggestions on the tire front. I'm looking for at least an M-Rated tire, even though I don't think I'll hit 80 very often, I fully expect this motor will be capable of that with proper upgearing. Finally, I went through that video embedded above and documented all the tasks, along with the bits he didn't do (mostly bearing installs) where I could see them. Assembly Tasks Interior build 1. Engine mounts 2. Kickstart buffers 3. Gear shift wishbone 4. Fly side main bearing 5. Fly side lay shaft(?) bearing 6. Clutch side 1. Main bearing 1. circlip 2. seal 7. Clutch side lay shaft bearing 8. primary gear 1. circlip (on basket shaft) 9. Kickstart quadrant 1. return spring 2. clutch basket base plate 1. spiral spring 2. kickstart gear 10. Axle+gear stack 11. xmas tree 12. Crankshaft 1. Pull into clutch side Apply gasket sealer+case gasket & close the cases Check for crank movement Apply Case bolts Top End Build 1. little end bearing 2. wrist pin & piston 3. piston circlips 4. base gaskets (if any) 5. cylinder w/ exhaust stub already installed 6. head gaskets (if any) 7. cylinder head 8. reed block+manifold Clutch Side 1. crank spacer 2. drive gear 3. drive gear washer Clutch 4. clutch basket 5. clutch base plate w/ springs Compress clutch 6. plates 7. top plate 8. pressure plate 9. clutch cover Rear Hub 1. Brake base plate (with shoes & cam pre-installed) 2. rear hub 3. rear hub nut Final big parts 1. Stator+flywheel 2. Kickstart lever 3. Carb 4. Exhaust |
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Oh it's handy to buy that clutch basket holding tool and clutch compressor.
Using a rag definitely wouldnt have worked in my case, just not enough torque. Depending on your clutch, especially tuned ones, the clutch compressor, because you have to install the plates inside the engine, and not compressed first, then install the pack. If that makes sense |
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It makes sense, and I already ordered both tools. And the one finger clutch includes the basket, so I think I'm covered there.
Meanwhile, I cleaned up the workshop enough that I feel ready to start teardown, then finished prepping the gas tank. It's ospho'ed and drying right now. Then, since I think I'm going to ride it ratty to start, I cleaned off the number plate just because. The entire thing was rattle-canned white, which has now yellowed with time. Acetone cut that paint reasonably well. I'm still on the struggle bus figuring out tires, though. It has 3.0x10's on it now, but they rolled their last good mile many years ago. ![]() you've come a long way, baby! ![]() Yup. Definitely a Smallstate. |
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I'm on that 3.00 buss too… I don't want to be grinding swing arm…
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Today's update...the motor is out of the bike and teardown started. I would have torn it all the way down but...I don't have a smallie flywheel puller yet. *sad trombone*
Assuming everything stays on track, I will on Tuesday, though And what would one of my build threads be without a video update? ![]() I have some cleaning to do.
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chandlerman wrote: It makes sense, and I already ordered both tools. And the one finger clutch includes the basket, so I think I'm covered there. Meanwhile, I cleaned up the workshop enough that I feel ready to start teardown, then finished prepping the gas tank. It's ospho'ed and drying right now. Then, since I think I'm going to ride it ratty to start, I cleaned off the number plate just because. The entire thing was rattle-canned white, which has now yellowed with time. Acetone cut that paint reasonably well. I'm still on the struggle bus figuring out tires, though. It has 3.0x10's on it now, but they rolled their last good mile many years ago. |
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chandlerman wrote: Today's update...the motor is out of the bike and teardown started. I would have torn it all the way down but...I don't have a smallie flywheel puller yet. *sad trombone* 28x1? |
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Most smallies are circlips, what kind of ignition is on there?
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It looks like the OG points, but it had a circlip style nut. Looks like threads on the inside, though.
I'll take a closer look in the morning, but there was definitely no circlip. |
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chandlerman wrote: Looked smaller. I guess I should check. ![]() Searched on SIP, only saw the 28x1 tool pop up… not sure what other variations there are, but worth checking if the normal largeframe tool works… One less road block |
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I just checked and my initial assessment was correct. Self-extracting flywheel. The circlip is missing and the recess was so full of muck that the nut drew what looked like threads to my needs-to-get-his-eyes-checked eyes. Once I worked it over with a pick, it was pretty obvious, though.
If I can find something that's close to a 25x26.9x1.2 mm circlip at Home Depot or Lowes, I'll be in business. Otherwise, it'll be time for a veeeery careful effort with a three-armed gear puller. I'm not going to use this ignition again, but I really don't want to damage OG parts like this getting them off, too. ![]() Doh! |
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Got a harbor freight? Depending upon the thickness, the 1 1/6" clip might work.
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chandlerman wrote: I just checked and my initial assessment was correct. Self-extracting flywheel. The circlip is missing and the recess was so full of muck that the nut drew what looked like threads to my needs-to-get-his-eyes-checked eyes. Once I worked it over with a pick, it was pretty obvious, though. The circlip is strong enough to pull it out? That has to be one deep ass groove! Interesting the circlip is missing… PO never thought of removing the flywheel lol… |
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