Tue May 10, 2022 4:39 pm

Molto Verboso
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Tue May 10, 2022 4:45 pm

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GTS300 Super 2015 Blue, GTS300 Super 2018 White
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Tue May 10, 2022 4:45 pm linkquote
They've taken tips from the PM Tuning exhaust. It is certainly a must if you want to show off your fancy wheels, but I think I prefer to see a long exhaust there. Wonder what it sounds like? Pretty noisy, I imagine.
Tue May 10, 2022 5:06 pm

Molto Verboso
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Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
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Tue May 10, 2022 5:06 pm linkquote
Mike Holland wrote:
Wonder what it sounds like? Pretty noisy, I imagine.
looking at the photo I think that baffle could be removed and also without the cat ... yup, too loud for the neighbours (and for me)
Tue May 10, 2022 6:20 pm

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Tue May 10, 2022 6:20 pm linkquote
The looks, and I bet the sound as well, remind me of every Chinese scooter running around with a busted exhaust. Save the money and just leave the silencer end off your exhaust and ride around! Yuck!
Tue May 10, 2022 6:29 pm

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Tue May 10, 2022 6:29 pm linkquote
I assume it's tuned to the note F.
Tue May 10, 2022 7:36 pm

Molto Verboso
GTS 300ie Touring 2013 - Signora D'argento & GTS 300ie HPE 2022 - Regina Arancione.
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Tue May 10, 2022 7:36 pm linkquote
That's way too stubby, I'd rather have a full length pipe, size matters!
Tue May 10, 2022 9:11 pm

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Tue May 10, 2022 9:11 pm linkquote
The red water pump hoses are pretty awesome. If they could only make a longer water pump, to go with the shorter exhaust... then you'd see more red hose, and that would be killer.
Tue May 10, 2022 10:39 pm

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Tue May 10, 2022 10:39 pm linkquote
Shebalba wrote:
The red water pump hoses are pretty awesome. If they could only make a longer water pump, to go with the shorter exhaust... then you'd see more red hose, and that would be killer.
Why not just paint your exhaust red?
Wed May 11, 2022 1:40 am

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Wed May 11, 2022 1:40 am linkquote
I am keen to see and hear it in action 👍
Wed May 11, 2022 1:46 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
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Wed May 11, 2022 1:46 am linkquote
Wow, they really don't need to compensate for anything.
But the factory exhaust covers a lot of ugly stuff on the big scoots.

Where's my Primavera version?
Wed May 11, 2022 4:23 am

Molto Verboso
2018 Vespa 300 GTS Touring
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Wed May 11, 2022 4:23 am linkquote
In the product description it says "For race use only. Not admitted in the area of the German StVZO!"
My guess is it would not pass inspection, not that, that would matter as I see so many motorbikes with loud exhausts that aren't pulled over by NYPD, doubt the police is enforcing the noise ordinances as such.
I like the stock exhaust, though I would like to have a better solution to having a graphite bushing..
Wed May 11, 2022 5:48 am

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Wed May 11, 2022 5:48 am linkquote
Kinda ugly, but I like it because it does not cover the rear wheel. In fact, one could possibly remove the swingarm without removing the exhaust.
Wed May 11, 2022 7:35 am

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Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
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Wed May 11, 2022 7:35 am linkquote
only issue I see is the hot exhaust gasses going straight back and heating up the brake lines. they should have had a turn out on it inside of straight back.
Wed May 11, 2022 8:07 am

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Wed May 11, 2022 8:07 am linkquote
Topolino wrote:
I assume it's tuned to the note F.
I think it oscillates between the keys of F and U.
Wed May 11, 2022 11:58 am

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
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Wed May 11, 2022 11:58 am linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
only issue I see is the hot exhaust gasses going straight back and heating up the brake lines. they should have had a turn out on it inside of straight back.
The brake line is on the other side of the bike. The line in the middle of the photo is the wheel rotation sensor for the ABS and ASR

But yeah i did wonder about that ...
Wed May 11, 2022 2:38 pm

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Wed May 11, 2022 2:38 pm linkquote
baba12 wrote:
In the product description it says "For race use only. Not admitted in the area of the German StVZO!"
My guess is it would not pass inspection, not that, that would matter as I see so many motorbikes with loud exhausts that aren't pulled over by NYPD, doubt the police is enforcing the noise ordinances as such.
I like the stock exhaust, though I would like to have a better solution to having a graphite bushing..
SFPD is floating the idea of formally ignoring a bunch of laws (headlights, turn signal usage, illegal parking, etc). The same week, the state announced they want to install noise cameras in 6 cities to combat loud exhausts.

SFPD doesn't enforce laws anyway, so I have no idea what effect the new guidelines would have: probably just performative.
Wed May 11, 2022 3:24 pm

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
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Location: Batmania aka Melbourne, Australia
 
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Wed May 11, 2022 3:24 pm linkquote
baba12 wrote:
In the product description it says "For race use only. Not admitted in the area of the German StVZO!"
Germany is really strict about changing almost any part of a vehicle. suggest largely ignoring that description when you see it.

Even sticking the popular Brembo brakes on a GTS is not permitted. https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/brake-calliper-brembo-front-p4-30-34-c_20516579
Wed May 11, 2022 3:32 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
LX190 Friday afternoon special, Primavera, some pushbikes
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Wed May 11, 2022 3:32 pm linkquote
steelbytes wrote:
Germany is really strict about changing almost any part of a vehicle. suggest largely ignoring that description when you see it.

Even sticking the popular Brembo brakes on a GTS is not permitted. https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/brake-calliper-brembo-front-p4-30-34-c_20516579
Officer I ran into the back of him because he stopped too fast.
Wed May 11, 2022 4:20 pm

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Wed May 11, 2022 4:20 pm linkquote
Corn wrote:
I think it oscillates between the keys of F and U.
Is it F & U...or F & m(inor)E?
Fri May 13, 2022 11:20 am

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Fri May 13, 2022 11:20 am linkquote
Mike Holland wrote:
They've taken tips from the PM Tuning exhaust. It is certainly a must if you want to show off your fancy wheels, but I think I prefer to see a long exhaust there. Wonder what it sounds like? Pretty noisy, I imagine.



ah, the classic Zelioni rims are crying out loud for this kind of solution


ah, the classic Zelioni rims are crying out loud for this kind of solution


or the lovely beloved Fuocos?

Fri May 13, 2022 2:41 pm

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Fri May 13, 2022 2:41 pm linkquote
mayorofnow wrote:
SFPD is floating the idea of formally ignoring a bunch of laws (headlights, turn signal usage, illegal parking, etc). The same week, the state announced they want to install noise cameras in 6 cities to combat loud exhausts.

SFPD doesn't enforce laws anyway, so I have no idea what effect the new guidelines would have: probably just performative.
This is pretty much the same situation in NYC. Not much enforcement of even the most basic rules, such as not riding on sidewalks or against traffic, red lights don't even count as suggestions to slow down for many. Either that vacuum of enforcement, or humanity collectively decided that they are past traffic laws and no enforcement in the world could break their will. There has also been talk about enforcing noise laws, judging by noise the from the tailpipes of many PTWs, that's just talk though.
Fri May 13, 2022 4:28 pm

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
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Fri May 13, 2022 4:28 pm linkquote
PreddyBaer wrote:
ah, the classic Zelioni rims are crying out loud for this kind of solution
lol, true. especially when also replacing the arm like in the photo with the SIP one (or similar)
Sat May 14, 2022 9:57 am

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Sat May 14, 2022 9:57 am linkquote
I really like the way that looks. But I wonder if the oil filter would be accessible without removing the muffler.
Sun May 15, 2022 9:30 am

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Sun May 15, 2022 9:30 am linkquote
Other than the reduction in sprung weight, I'm not seeing much to recommend this.
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