Sat May 14, 2022 4:13 am

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Vespa GTS 300 Super HPE
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Sat May 14, 2022 4:13 am linkquote
I bought my bike brand new about 6 months ago, having not ridden for a few years after I was bored of Vespa's getting stolen or written off.

All of my old ones were sub £2.5k bikes.

This is number 5 for the 300, having also had a 200 and a 250 a few years back.

Here are my thoughts having commuted 50 miles each way for the last 6 months.

The paint isn't the best given the £5k price tag.

The rev limiter is a bit annoying the way it works, feels a bit unsafe the first few times you hit it.

Sometimes trying to pull away fast from the lights, it feels like it hits a flat spot.

The paint underneath has literally started coming off revealing metal work - I don't think it is rusty, which I know older models are known for in the seams, so it has gone to the dealer today for them to refer to Piaggio (fingers crossed).

It uses more oil than expected too.

All of the above has taken the shine off of the bike I have always referred to as the perfect London commuter bike - so now I am conflicted about whether to keep it and its imperfections or trade it in for something that is less perfect for the commute...
Sat May 14, 2022 4:29 am

Molto Verboso
2019 Supertech (EURO3/APAC)
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Sat May 14, 2022 4:29 am linkquote
fusionsplice wrote:
Sometimes trying to pull away fast from the lights, it feels like it hits a flat spot.
Turn off the ASR
Sat May 14, 2022 4:54 am

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Sat May 14, 2022 4:54 am linkquote
Oh really?
Sat May 14, 2022 5:04 am

Molto Verboso
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Sat May 14, 2022 5:04 am linkquote
fusionsplice wrote:
Oh really?
Yes really
Sat May 14, 2022 5:21 am

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Sat May 14, 2022 5:21 am linkquote
Great tip - going to try that out...that'll be one less thing that annoys me about it - thanks.
Sat May 14, 2022 6:39 am

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VESPA GTS 300
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Sat May 14, 2022 6:39 am linkquote
steelbytes wrote:
Turn off the ASR
What is the point of this ASR? I am not sure WTF it does.
Sat May 14, 2022 7:25 am

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Sat May 14, 2022 7:25 am linkquote
RocklandDad wrote:
What is the point of this ASR? I am not sure WTF it does.
Stops wheel spin.
Sat May 14, 2022 12:37 pm

Molto Verboso
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Sat May 14, 2022 12:37 pm linkquote
RocklandDad wrote:
What is the point of this ASR? I am not sure WTF it does.
Very handy when the road is anything less than perfect.
Sat May 14, 2022 1:18 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS 2013 BV 350
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Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
 
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Sat May 14, 2022 1:18 pm linkquote
Be patient with the oil consumption. IIRC, it eventually levels off...just remember to check levels frequently until it does.

Good luck with the paint. That certainly doesn't sound typical.
Sun May 15, 2022 10:10 am

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2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP) 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
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Sun May 15, 2022 10:10 am linkquote
fledermaus wrote:
Be patient with the oil consumption. IIRC, it eventually levels off...just remember to check levels frequently until it does.

Good luck with the paint. That certainly doesn't sound typical.
This is the general consensus regarding more-recent models of the GTS HPE (like mine, and, presumably, the OP's). After the the first few thousand miles things should improve on the consumption front.

One bit of advice I'd give in the name of keeping an eye on the oil level: switch out the oil pan for one with a built-in sight-glass. The only complaint I have about the HPE is where they decided to relocate the oil filler, closely adjacent to the exhaust. Not exactly helpful for a quick level-check.

As far as the paint goes? Yep, definitely check that out.


New Oil Pan: Just like the original, but better.


New Oil Pan, Installed: Oil-check at a glance.

Mon May 16, 2022 1:49 am

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Mon May 16, 2022 1:49 am linkquote
The oil pan with sight glass does look like a good mod, but assume it would invalidate any warranty?

Talking of which does anyone know where to find the warranty details for the bike? I don't have it anywhere and Vespa's site doesn't seem to be much use.
Mon May 16, 2022 5:15 am

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2007 LX 150 (memories)
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Mon May 16, 2022 5:15 am linkquote
Isn't there warranty info in the manual that came with the bike?
Mon May 16, 2022 5:26 am

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Mon May 16, 2022 5:26 am linkquote
No, the manual is tiny and I couldn't find it in there.
Mon May 16, 2022 5:33 am

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Mon May 16, 2022 8:40 am

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2020 MP3 Sport 500 HPE ABS ASR
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Mon May 16, 2022 8:40 am linkquote
RocklandDad wrote:
What is the point of this ASR? I am not sure WTF it does.
It stops the wheel from spinning when road surface is slippery (rain, gravel,etc.).

Unfortunately, it engages when it's not really needed, so you flat spot when you try to accelerate. I experience this mostly when I try to accelerate out of a turn.

I turn mine off when it's dry out - which is almost always where I live. (I do this in my car as well.)

Your ASR may need to be calibrated. Here is a YouTube video: https://tinyurl.com/y25btlo2

Mon May 16, 2022 8:49 am

Hooked
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Location: Dublin, Ohio
 
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Mon May 16, 2022 8:49 am linkquote
fusionsplice wrote:
The oil pan with sight glass does look like a good mod, but assume it would invalidate any warranty?

Talking of which does anyone know where to find the warranty details for the bike? I don't have it anywhere and Vespa's site doesn't seem to be much use.
No, it won't invalidate your warranty. It is actually a genuine Piaggio part that is modified to install the sight glass. Great mod.
Mon May 16, 2022 11:33 am

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2021 GTS 300 Supersport
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Mon May 16, 2022 11:33 am linkquote
apex wrote:
No, it won't invalidate your warranty. It is actually a genuine Piaggio part that is modified to install the sight glass. Great mod.
Indeed it is a great mod that won't invalidate your warranty, only annoyance is that it should be a factory standard fitment and they are not cheap.
Mon May 16, 2022 3:32 pm

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2007 GT200, 2008 Yamaha C3
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Mon May 16, 2022 3:32 pm linkquote
It's an improvement for the place that sold it to you. Belt, rollers and valve adjustment every 6,000 miles. Hell yah.
Mon May 16, 2022 4:32 pm

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Mon May 16, 2022 4:32 pm linkquote
Abner_Bjorn wrote:
It's an improvement for the place that sold it to you. Belt, rollers and valve adjustment every 6,000 miles. Hell yah.
6k is not a bad service interval for motorcycles these days. Of course they want to do a lot, The dealer will do (supposedly) early on, but ask them to see the parts... They recommend a lot of stuff based on worst case, every day, riding on salty and muddy and wet roads.

I always recommend establishing trust with a good, trustful service person over the years. Not the official dealer (although some are great).
Mon May 16, 2022 5:01 pm

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2015 GTS 300 Super (Melody: 2015-2021, RIP) 2022 GTS SuperTech (Thelonica)
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Mon May 16, 2022 5:01 pm linkquote
Coddy wrote:
Indeed it is a great mod that won't invalidate your warranty, only annoyance is that it should be a factory standard fitment and they are not cheap.
Ironically, Vespa apparently used to have this feature in the not-so-distant past. Luckily, someone outside the company remembered this.
PabloLie wrote:
6k is not a bad service interval for motorcycles these days. Of course they want to do a lot, The dealer will do (supposedly) early on, but ask them to see the parts... They recommend a lot of stuff based on worst case, every day, riding on salty and muddy and wet roads.

I always recommend establishing trust with a good, trustful service person over the years. Not the official dealer (although some are great).
I do trust my dealer, who did a good job with Melody (my previous bike), as well as Thelonica (my current ride I bought from them). I'm the high-miler of all their Vespa customers, so they seem fairly keen to hear my take on what does (or doesn't) work, as well as understand that mine isn't a fair-weather/just-for-fun machine.
Thu May 19, 2022 11:22 am

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Thu May 19, 2022 11:22 am linkquote
mpfrank wrote:
It stops the wheel from spinning when road surface is slippery (rain, gravel,etc.).

Unfortunately, it engages when it's not really needed, so you flat spot when you try to accelerate. I experience this mostly when I try to accelerate out of a turn.

I turn mine off when it's dry out - which is almost always where I live. (I do this in my car as well.)

Your ASR may need to be calibrated.
I'm considering an auto off circuit for the asr
A time delay relay [TDR], the coil hooked up to the headlight, normally closed contacts hooked up in parallel to the ASR switch
The headlight doesn't turn on until the motor is running, activating the TDR, set for 2-3 seconds, would simulate pushing the ASR button
The regular ASR button would still work
The TDR could be under the tupperware
A switch to turn it off could be added to disable it
Here's a relay, for cheap
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09L4B738X/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B09L4B738X&pd_rd_w=ZdUqP&pf_rd_p=ed02e65e-bf3f-46c8-aedd-152f4fca56ac&pd_rd_wg=VB1pk&pf_rd_r=K6KTXA5YANDB3VMNK9KF&pd_rd_r=6e80a5e6-cb31-44b7-8f17-e378228e1704&s=kitchen&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExWUY3S0YzRzUxRDlNJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTc2MTE2MVBLVExOM1YwMUxLMSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTQwOTUyM003VUFXSDk1T0JNUyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Thu May 19, 2022 12:08 pm

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Thu May 19, 2022 12:08 pm linkquote
And here's one that's 12V DC not 110V AC:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CV4G9QC
Fri May 20, 2022 11:30 am

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Fri May 20, 2022 11:30 am linkquote
Turning the ASR off has transformed the bike!
Sat May 21, 2022 9:25 am

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Sat May 21, 2022 9:25 am linkquote
jimc wrote:
And here's one that's 12V DC not 110V AC:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CV4G9QC
The product description is confused
The one I posted is 12v, the contacts are rated for 240vac 5a
Sat May 21, 2022 11:18 am

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Sat May 21, 2022 11:18 am linkquote
Garthhh wrote:
The product description is confused
The one I posted is 12v, the contacts are rated for 240vac 5a
And the picture shows "Source 110V AC". Very confused indeed! Whatev's.
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